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Posted

As you have probably seen, we have upgraded the board and fixed some long lasting issues...hopefull. Let's see if the poll works.

Let me know if you run into any issues.

Posted
2 hours ago, Jim said:

As you have probably seen, we have upgraded the board and fixed some long lasting issues...hopefull. Let's see if the poll works.

Let me know if you run into any issues.

Jim is not stupid, but Jim does include deliberate spelling mistakes to test us all and ensure that we are paying attention! :wink:

The update looks great! Thank you!

Posted (edited)

I voted no, because on 22:05 German time, before my vote, the votes added-up to 100.01%

I fixed that by voting no - now all is good :pir-wink:

Best,
Thorsten

Edited by Toastie
Posted (edited)

To be honest, I do not think the update looks great. It probably could with some small adjustments though. Why are there no borders separating avatars with the message box for example? The border between posts could use some more contrast as well. As is now, there might as well be no borders at all. I'm finding it harder to read than the old board, which I guess is the oposite to what you want? But maybe it's just me.

Also, the list of topics suffers from the same problem all "modernized" websites suffers from today in that there is a lot of space added between titles and buttons for no reason which just makes it a pain to read.

Edited by zoo
Posted

I was SOOO tempted to hit the “Jim is stupid” option lol. I like the dark mode though. @Jim one question: when I have dark mode selected, it takes a second to go from white to dark when I click on a topic. Just letting you know :pir-tongue:

Posted

@zoo The other thread may be better for complaints about the current / new themes:

 

For us the main scope was improving security and getting needed updates applied. As I am no dedicated web worker, but an system engineer, I am happy I could do some CSS overwrites (generally no good practice at all...) to recreate the old looks to 90ish% for the default theme - and believe me, there are plenty more - so if you like to participate.. :D

Themes were second priority with that in mind  as the vendor of the forum software will also release a new major version of their forum product with a complete overhaul of the theme engine and their theme base templates.

That is why we also deprioritized themes as all efforts for the current theme recreation will be lost efforts as soon as the new major release got released in a stable version.

 

4 minutes ago, bruh said:

I was SOOO tempted to hit the “Jim is stupid” option lol. I like the dark mode though. @Jim one question: when I have dark mode selected, it takes a second to go from white to dark when I click on a topic. Just letting you know :pir-tongue:

This is because it is just a Javascript Hack by mine which works with nasty CSS overwrites ("!important") - my javascript is loaded with the site, checking your cookie for the stored value and then applying it over the already rendered page - thats why the flicker comes.. so it is not perfect, but right now I don't have a better solution to offer. (when we have Javascript / HTML / CSS gurus around, we are open for you guys doing the fancy magic :D)

I have to add, I personally find the new default themes a little more cleaned up from the looks than the old default one. So opinions may differ - sorry we did not hit your taste!

Posted

Also you may not believe how much efforts were put already in the preparations of the upgrade & migration, as everything had to be tested in regard of functionality and not losing contents.

For e.g. we are using a plugin which was officially release to the old version - but unfortunately the maketplace of the forum software for those extensions is also discontinued already & the original of the plugin does not reply to any messages.

Additionally the vendor of the forum software changed different components in the backgrounds, which led to even more testing.

On top of that we had to do final regressiontestings with fresh complete clonings from the live environment towards our testing platform to assure the complete upgrade process is working as expected in the outcome.

 

And oh boy - I can tell you I had a moment yesterday which rendered my failure-backup-plans useless in the first 15 minutes - you know that scene in a movie when the hero crosses an ancient bridge and when he is just in the middle the bridge starts to collapse from behind? It was exactly this feeling... So much for "you can plan for everything".

So for today I am very happy I migrated with success and everything is functionally working as it was before - the remaining minor optical things may be worked on.

Posted (edited)

I'm super happy with the dark mode, thank you for all the efforts! I've done such migrations in the past too on a large forum, it's a pain with all the plugins and custom CSS. I'm sure from now on it's just a matter of optimising, including the removal of the white flickr just before a dark mode page gets fully loaded. It might just be something like the background color in CSS or even replacing an image. Or this is something to take up with the forum software developer if not in the hands of an EB host admin.

Another small remark, just as I type this I see the box with ''Drag here to attach, or choose files...", still with a limit of 4,63 kb, just enough for an avatar. So seeing that box under every message while typing is not very useful although the ''Other Media" button on the right is.

Also, the 'special ranks' images just below the Country are not next to each other but I'm sure you also noticed.

Edited by Berthil
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Posted
51 minutes ago, aFrInaTi0n said:

@zoo The other thread may be better for complaints about the current / new themes:

 

For us the main scope was improving security and getting needed updates applied. As I am no dedicated web worker, but an system engineer, I am happy I could do some CSS overwrites (generally no good practice at all...) to recreate the old looks to 90ish% for the default theme - and believe me, there are plenty more - so if you like to participate.. :D

Themes were second priority with that in mind  as the vendor of the forum software will also release a new major version of their forum product with a complete overhaul of the theme engine and their theme base templates.

That is why we also deprioritized themes as all efforts for the current theme recreation will be lost efforts as soon as the new major release got released in a stable version.

Alright, thank you. I understand.

I just wanted to express my impressions of the new design as other here did. It is meant as constructive criticism and I hope it got across as just that.

Posted

Understood it like so and all fine from my side - just wanted to deliver some insights about the details behind. Unfortunately we are not free to start on a green field :pir-grin:

Possibly some little things may be tweaked from the colors, not sure yet how we may approach this to make everybody happy as opinions may be so different (which is a good thing!!!) :pir-huzzah1:

Posted
22 minutes ago, TechnicRCRacer said:

The update looks good and the poll works for me. I am just glad that the horrible pop-up ads on mobile are not showing anymore.

+1

Thanks at the technical team behind the scene!

Posted

In an unrelated note can the format for read and unread threads be the same as before? In the old format a read thread would be unbold, while an unread thread is bold. Now everything is in bold and my brain is so confused.

Posted (edited)

Don't going to raise a question about the Jim's stupidity but how to vote about the poll's workness before checking it's workness?

I assume there should be two polls - a test one and the second about the first one

:look:

Edited by Aleh
Posted
14 hours ago, Berthil said:

I'm super happy with the dark mode, thank you for all the efforts! I've done such migrations in the past too on a large forum, it's a pain with all the plugins and custom CSS. I'm sure from now on it's just a matter of optimising, including the removal of the white flickr just before a dark mode page gets fully loaded. It might just be something like the background color in CSS or even replacing an image. Or this is something to take up with the forum software developer if not in the hands of an EB host admin.

Another small remark, just as I type this I see the box with ''Drag here to attach, or choose files...", still with a limit of 4,63 kb, just enough for an avatar. So seeing that box under every message while typing is not very useful although the ''Other Media" button on the right is.

Also, the 'special ranks' images just below the Country are not next to each other but I'm sure you also noticed.

Added the drag&drop as an item to take a look into.

For the CSS: my hack can just start to work after the document (DOM) has fully been loaded in the browser - unfortunately the browser has rendered the view already in the canvas of your screen - only some milliseconds later the Javascript is doing its thing of "just too late" applying the overwrites - right now I am not having a good idea in mind how I could circumvent that, but I am totally open for any CSS/JS magician helping me out with a better solution, as I am no pro at those topics and was happy already I brought a working function together & getting that implemented in regard to the theming engine of the forum.. :pir_wacko:

Posted
15 hours ago, RichardGoring said:

Jim is not stupid, but Jim does include deliberate spelling mistakes to test us all and ensure that we are paying attention! :wink:

The update looks great! Thank you!

That is in fact really stupid. Because I learned when I was 12 years old that you never write these kind of words with double L instead it actually means that something is full. I have seldomly made that mistake since then, but you still caught me.

Thanks for pointing it out.

Apart from me being stupid, the poll indeed does seem to be working, which is great!

15 hours ago, zoo said:

Also, the list of topics suffers from the same problem all "modernized" websites suffers from today in that there is a lot of space added between titles and buttons for no reason which just makes it a pain to read.

I reckon you are not old enough hehe. You will learn to appreciate it.

Jokes aside; which buttons do you mean? 

5 hours ago, TechnicRCRacer said:

The update looks good and the poll works for me. I am just glad that the horrible pop-up ads on mobile are not showing anymore.

That was one of the extra goals of moving to a new hosting partner. We are looking into doing something like Patreon, because the existing Ads don't cover the hosting costs.

15 hours ago, zoo said:

The border between posts could use some more contrast as well. As is now, there might as well be no borders at all. I'm finding it harder to read than the old board, which I guess is the oposite to what you want? But maybe it's just me.

I agree with you on this one. The posts are not clearly separated. We will look into this.

15 hours ago, zoo said:

To be honest, I do not think the update looks great. It probably could with some small adjustments though. Why are there no borders separating avatars with the message box for example?

I don't think we really need a border between the avatar and the post itself. But we can consider this of course.

@aFrInaTi0n Let's see if we can find a screenshot of a page with posts in it. I forgot to make that one, but I'm sure we can access the site on the old server.

  • Jim changed the title to Test Poll and generic observations regarding the update
Posted

Old server?! You mean that ancient old man who had an heart attack right after I asked him to hand me over the crown jewels of data for me delivering them over the ancient bridge over to the new lands? I have to tell I needed to cross the collapsing bridge fastly to not let me and the jewels fall into oblivion - so I am not sure if that old man is still alive on the other side... :pir-look:

 

Posted
18 hours ago, bruh said:

I was SOOO tempted to hit the “Jim is stupid” option lol. I like the dark mode though. @Jim one question: when I have dark mode selected, it takes a second to go from white to dark when I click on a topic. Just letting you know :pir-tongue:

I'm definitely happy to have the native dark mode option, but another very convenient option is just to install a browser extension that creates an automatic dark mode on websites. I use Dark Reader, and have been very happy with it. (Though I only know of one mobile browser [Kiwi Browser] that supports extensions like that)

Posted
1 hour ago, 2GodBDGlory said:

I use Dark Reader

Thanks for the tip. Does it remove the white flash before an EB page is fully loaded? And does it work properly on LEGO.com? I could test myself of course, but don't like to install extensions and remove them again when not working properly..

Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Jim said:

I reckon you are not old enough hehe. You will learn to appreciate it.

Jokes aside; which buttons do you mean? 

Hehe I'm getting there. But more space doesn't realy help readability if the text stays the same size. :)

Sorry, just realized that there aren't many buttons around these forums. I guess what I mean is features in general. If more space is added between features without the features themselves getting larger and text resized, it makes everything feel less coherent in my eyes. But not many seem to agree with my concerns so I guess it isn't too bad. :)

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