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"So say we all" - to use a phrase from some frakkin SciFi franchise I like.. :)

Thanks for further explaination - and also I am not a native english speaker.. so count me in for doing stupid mistakes always please..

What category please? So would that be the same as for the sets then?

I would not even bother about asking myself this - on a personal level I can understand it from my childhood of waiting for unboxing gifts. But I would reckon the social aspects of "being the first" may be another motivation. Even if I am a fan of a thing and get a leak "earlier than the company planned for their release" I would believe I would only starving for a longer time period until it gets finally released, wouldn't I?! So I stopped in trying to understand further... But originally I wanted to say thanks for the very in reality grounded example, supporting my perspective.. :D

For me that instantly gets true for sets - but I am not sure where the MOCs would be placed then.. Can only to agree to such iterative and small-scoped change process.

As long as all is going fine there us no risk. But when there would be a case the risk is on the site owner - therefore I would believe the owner may sponsor the stance here as he has the only stakes.

I would consider all being fine as long as we would act accordingly to remove any coming claim immediately. It may be up to interpretation of any service provider to know what to be considered a potential leak. At least in Germany we have this one saying "Unwissenheit schützt vor Strafe nicht" ("Ignorance of the law is no excuse.") - which I consider applying for making it hard for us to start an argument with "but it wasn't clear to us" - while understanding us as a community of experts in the fields... And the whole other perspective: I would less like to give people a platform only to allow them with bad intentions to create harm for organisations only for them getting attention, as I would believe such behavior may have no effects to any community.. But this can only be my personal believe please.

Sorry Sven - so you are speaking of parts which are exclusive to other brands - and them being part of some MOCs which are at Eurobricks already?! (and would possible be considered only tolerated with closing at least two eyes, right?!)

Could you help me out understanding it better then? @JesseNight Oh super interesting, for me I am considering "one same part being available from two different brands" only in regards of function/form! color is a whole other domain to me! So "the same part offered in a color from a third party brand which is not offered by LEGO" would be considered "another part" then?

I would look on the matter from another perspective: Imagine you have registered a domain on your name and you have a well known online forum running for over 20 years on it - how happy would you be for any Cease-and-Desist Letter or a formal Notice and Action Demand claiming anthing (may even be total BS) - thing is, by law you must react accordingly. As long as you are not lucky to work in that profession it may be wise to consult an expert in the field. Quick (AI-assisted) research digged up two applicable acts/directives: EU Digital Services Act (DSA) and the EU Trade Secrets Directive (Directive (EU) 2016/943). Furtheron: *underlining within the spoilerbox is the parts which I consider applicable to us / or brands having claims towards us as a provider.

Question: But just in regards of parts which could be replaced with lego ones, or am I getting this wrong? I would think of GoBricks Motors/Servos as one of those replacements you mentioned as "happening already".

Fun fact here: "before the patent" may be a very same situation as "after expiry of the patent". So from the perspective of laws/regulations, I would believe it may less be important for the invention rather than for registering the patent. From a business perspective registering a patent may be understood as taking a risk (in form of commitment of money to be placed) from the strong believe of that investment reaching ROI. To me this would tell that this particular investment may be considered a successful bet which assured them to have the full market fully for themself for the lifetime of the patent.

@Sven J That is why I am a fan of the idea from switching from part-policing towards brand-policing. Makes things at least for the Mod-Team much easier, I would suppose.. Other Idea: Would anybody consider the LDraw library as a well and constantly maintained baseline of "common parts"? They are 100% independent to any brand as well, which I would consider a good start already... :D

Absolutely yes, pro creatitivity and pro engagement please. For the leaks topic in special I may have a more strict IT-perspective, so I consider us not having much choice as a platform, providing services for people sharing information, to follow laws, regulations or understandable wishes from companies. With my harsh opinion I would just like to save us from any situation which may considered us supporting unlawful actions - I like better to follow those soft rules for acting in the best interest of the companies as our stance in the first place than for finding out how fastly or costly "already a claim" for such may get..

Thanks already for also directly joining the other discussion with the poll - I would believe it should not matter much if you freshly joined or not. I appreciate your inputs very much!