LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[CallumPears]

3 hours ago, Virginia_Bricks said:

Its never going to happen, but I wish they would bring back figure polybags for the mid threshold. Even simple figures like a new imperial officer with reused prints so it won't skyrocket on the secondary market.

Yeah when I order from LEGO I want to get LEGO. Does anybody actually care about the coins, badges, etc.? And surely a new print on a minifigure would be cheaper for them to produce than some specialised metalwork? 

[AD_Bricks]

4 hours ago, CallumPears said:

Does anybody actually care about the coins, badges, etc.? 

I'm sure they'd be pretty cool to have, but every time that I've ordered on May 4th to get the 3 promos, they've ended up being out of stock of the mid-tier one, so I always just end up with the polybag and the proper promo. Slightly disappointed, but I always just call them like "Hey where's the coin that you promised??" and they give me a bunch of VIP points as compensation, so I'm not too fussed.

[CloneCommando99]

I too would love to see a return of polybag minifigures. Really great opportunity to get characters or character variants relevant to the year which we wouldn’t usually get. This year would be a great opportunity to get someone like Major Lio Partigaz, Sidon Ithano, Mon Mothma, Pantoran George Lucas, etc…

[Mandalorianknight]

15 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

I'm sure they'd be pretty cool to have, but every time that I've ordered on May 4th to get the 3 promos, they've ended up being out of stock of the mid-tier one, so I always just end up with the polybag and the proper promo. Slightly disappointed, but I always just call them like "Hey where's the coin that you promised??" and they give me a bunch of VIP points as compensation, so I'm not too fussed.

Not a bad trade off all things considered. I like my coin and ingot but if it was them or enough points for a $10-15 set or whatever they set the GWP value as on the website, I'm taking the set.

20 hours ago, CallumPears said:

And surely a new print on a minifigure would be cheaper for them to produce than some specialised metalwork? 

Actually I don't think so. It's not exactly diamond engraving. I could definitely see it being significantly cheaper to subcontract out "hey, can you make us some coins" or "hey, can you make us some rectangles" than a new figure polybag. Remember, it's not making a new print that's expensive, it's setting up the new production line in their factories. 

Edited February 10 by Mandalorianknight

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 hour ago, CloneCommando99 said:

[…] someone like Major Lio Partigaz, Sidon Ithano, Mon Mothma, Pantoran George Lucas, etc…

I agree with the sentiment, but there‘s no way they‘d release a new moulded piece in a paperbag (side note: the term „polybag“ can be retired now), so Sidon Ithano can be ruled out  Papanoida is too obscure, but the other two are good suggestions!

[Lego Nostalgia]

I'd take a normal Stormtrooper mini figure that's been in so many sets than a coin in a box GWP

Those Stormies are in everything yet they won't give it to us as a polybag with a build or something, that Hasbro nonsense isn't true, if they wanted to, they could

Stormtrooper and speeder polybag, clone and walker polybag, it's a shame

It wouldn't cost them much to throw one in a polybag by itself, it's just a reuse

[Kaijumeister]

I’m still flabbergasted that the $150 MTT doesn’t have any new minifigure moulds. I know leakers would have said otherwise by this point if it were true but part of me still prays Aayla and Bly are only part of the minifigure lineup.

[Mandalorianknight]

32 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

that Hasbro nonsense isn't true, if they wanted to, they could

We don't know the exact details but c'mon, you think that if lego was legally able to just sell minifigure packs for star wars, they wouldn't be all over the place? They could do a $7.99 CMF for star wars and it'd probably be a bestseller.

25 minutes ago, Kaijumeister said:

I’m still flabbergasted that the $150 MTT doesn’t have any new minifigure moulds. I know leakers would have said otherwise by this point if it were true but part of me still prays Aayla and Bly are only part of the minifigure lineup.

Unfortunately it is pretty consistent with the last MTT but yeah it's sad.

 

Even after they become paper (still all plastic around me) I'm still calling them Polybags, paperbag sounds pretty bad in comparison.

Edited February 11 by Mandalorianknight

[Samppu]

On 2/10/2025 at 2:47 AM, CallumPears said:

Yeah when I order from LEGO I want to get LEGO. Does anybody actually care about the coins, badges, etc.? And surely a new print on a minifigure would be cheaper for them to produce than some specialised metalwork? 

Sharing this sentiment.

If the poly- sorry, the paperbag costed a lot to produce, then they could just reduce the amount of other stuff as gifts or raise the dollar tresshold for getting one as a freebie, and should they go through the trouble of making a new mold for the paperbag, they could just reuse the same mold in some other set (like the advent calendar, heh  ) to make it more sensible production-wise... 

There is no looking at the mouth of a gift horse, but I feel that the logic of some people go that "oh, he loves Legos very much, but he also has them already so many, so can I figure out something else Lego related to give as a gift?"

Regards, over the years I have been given multiples of somewhat useless Lego-related stuff which are not bricks, like storage boxes... 

I wonder if something of the sort could also be the idea behind coins etc. non-brick stuff as GWPs?

Edited February 11 by Samppu

[Kit Figsto]

1 hour ago, Mandalorianknight said:

We don't know the exact details but c'mon, you think that if lego was legally able to just sell minifigure packs for star wars, they wouldn't be all over the place? They could do a $7.99 CMF for star wars and it'd probably be a bestseller.

Also, the fact that other brands have to abide by this really lends credence to it being true.  The only SW character merch that I can think of that's even close to action figures, besides minifigures, are Funko (which ONLY do bobbleheads for Star Wars and Indiana Jones, both brands that Hasbro had the action figure license for, the rest are just normal figurines), those mini blind bag keychains (which don't have articulation and are keychains), and minifigures.  The only thing I can find that toes the line is some Fisher-Price stuff aimed for toddlers/young children, which I would imagine is okay because it's not undercutting Hasbro.  LEGO or Funko, on the other hand, have enough appeal to both kids and adults to where there is competition.

If, say, Mattel, were also putting out 6 inch, highly detailed SW figures, then I'd be inclined to believe the exclusive deal thing isn't true, but I feel like that whole "LEGO is lying about the Hasbro deal" thing was just a rumor spread by some of the more toxic YouTube/streamer people to get the internet all riled up and mad at LEGO, because that's pretty much what that crowd aims to do.  As you said, a Star Wars CMF would print money, and LEGO knows that.  People are already obsessed with the highly detailed customs that get sold on Instagram and stuff, can you imagine stuff like a Captain Rex or Commander Cody with the extra level of detail that CMFs get?  Those wouldn't even make it to store shelves before being bought.

[GlacierPhoenix]

13 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

"... can you imagine stuff like a Captain Rex or Commander Cody with the extra level of detail that CMFs get?  Those wouldn't even make it to store shelves before being bought."

Yeah imagine if LEGO came out with a Captain rex with entirely new prints for all the minifig parts including printed arms matching the level of detail on CMFs. LEGO would never do such a thing, let alone have it at a low price where anyone can get it. They only way they could ever do something like that would be in a huge set. 

[CloneCommando99]

So Black Series is going to be releasing a Dedra Meero figure this year. But the interesting thing is that the leak (from Yakface who is apparently reliable according to r/Blackseries) is specifically listed as armoured. So that might be an appearance for her in Andor Season 2.

Could we finally get a field gear imperial Officer that isn’t Veers if it’s armoured Dedra in the U-Wing?

Edit: Come to think of it, it would actually make sense for Dedra to be wearing tactical gear if she’s going up against a U-Wing, as realistically she’s either participating in a field operation or a sting operation on Cassian if the U-Wing’s involved in the scene.

Also @THELEGOBATMAN what do you think of this possibility? Seeing as this affects your sanity the most.

Edited February 11 by CloneCommando99

[Kit Figsto]

1 hour ago, GlacierPhoenix said:

Yeah imagine if LEGO came out with a Captain rex with entirely new prints for all the minifig parts including printed arms matching the level of detail on CMFs. LEGO would never do such a thing, let alone have it at a low price where anyone can get it. They only way they could ever do something like that would be in a huge set. 

My point is that if they could, there would be no reason not to do it in a CMF.  The reason that CMFs have more detail/new prints/sometimes even new molds is because of the budget they get.  The margins on them are probably super high, because it's like six pieces for $5, and generally each series as a whole has maybe 1-2 new molds tops.  For a 12 figure series, that's 2 out of about 72 pieces that are new, the rest are typically recolors of existing molds.  I would also assume that they're being produced in much higher quantities.

They're also not unwilling to put desirable figures in small sets, otherwise things like the Rex microfighter or upcoming Plo Koon microfighter wouldn't exist.  If they were able to do that with JUST the minifigure, people would be buying up multiples of them for customs or whatever, whereas doing that with a $12 set is a little bit less massable.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

53 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

So Black Series is going to be releasing a Dedra Meero figure this year. But the interesting thing is that the leak (from Yakface who is apparently reliable according to r/Blackseries) is specifically listed as armoured. So that might be an appearance for her in Andor Season 2.

Could we finally get a field gear imperial Officer that isn’t Veers if it’s armoured Dedra in the U-Wing?

Edit: Come to think of it, it would actually make sense for Dedra to be wearing tactical gear if she’s going up against a U-Wing, as realistically she’s either participating in a field operation or a sting operation on Cassian if the U-Wing’s involved in the scene.

Also @THELEGOBATMAN what do you think of this possibility? Seeing as this affects your sanity the most.

Ooh, really cool to hear Dedra-specific rumours. Yeah, I'd be down for more tactical gear. Anyway, I don't really care what outift she has, I just need her in a set—but that reaffirms my hopes.

[AD_Bricks]

1 hour ago, Kit Figsto said:

The margins on them are probably super high, because it's like six pieces for $5, and generally each series as a whole has maybe 1-2 new molds tops.  For a 12 figure series, that's 2 out of about 72 pieces that are new, the rest are typically recolors of existing molds.

What?? 1-2 new moulds in a series tops??? Some individual CMF figures have 2-3 new pieces by themselves!

Edited February 11 by AD_Bricks

[THELEGOBATMAN]

3 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

What?? 1-2 new moulds in a series tops??? Some individual CMF figures have 2-3 new pieces by themselves!

Yeah, the D&D series has like twenty completely new moulds.

CMFs get an insane amount of moulds, dual-mouldings, prints, and recolours.

[Kit Figsto]

3 hours ago, AD_Bricks said:

What?? 1-2 new moulds in a series tops??? Some individual CMF figures have 2-3 new pieces by themselves!

Ha, shows what I know!

I honestly can't keep track of the amount of new molds that exist today.  I felt like 10-15 years ago, it was a much bigger deal when new parts came out, but now, my only real exposure to a new part is if it gets included in a set that I buy, but half of the time, I think "Oh, I guess this is new!" and it turns out that it came out 5 years ago.

I suppose with CMFs, I have the opposite issue, where I just assume any part that I hadn't seen before was included in a City/Friends set 

Anyway, I think my point still stands about the hypothetical existence of a SW CMF series.  If they could, they would.

[BrickBob Studpants]

45 minutes ago, Kit Figsto said:

Anyway, I think my point still stands about the hypothetical existence of a SW CMF series.  If they could, they would.

I wouldn‘t be so sure. The two main issues are that they‘d A) lose a selling point for regular sets if desirable characters suddenly showed up as CMF figures, and B) that SW is simply too big of a franchise. They‘d have to do be very specific about what they pick for a 12-figure series. Since representing main characters is a staple of all licensed series, they‘d have to do series based on individual shows and movies (rather than SW as a whole) so they could still make for the side characters that we want, and even then 12 would be nowhere near enough  Just my 2 cents tho.

[Kit Figsto]

1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I wouldn‘t be so sure. The two main issues are that they‘d A) lose a selling point for regular sets if desirable characters suddenly showed up as CMF figures, and B) that SW is simply too big of a franchise. They‘d have to do be very specific about what they pick for a 12-figure series. Since representing main characters is a staple of all licensed series, they‘d have to do series based on individual shows and movies (rather than SW as a whole) so they could still make for the side characters that we want, and even then 12 would be nowhere near enough  Just my 2 cents tho.

I've thought about the selling point, but at the same time, this didn't really seem to affect the other licensed series - they just did a mixture of exclusive characters or variants to where they can still put appealing figures in sets.

A SW series, for example - you could do a couple of variations of main OT characters that aren't as conducive to sets or aren't on shelves right now - maybe stuff like ghost Obi-Wan, Cloud City Lando (since apparently they only put him out every 20 years or so), or a highly detailed Vader.  Those figures would realistically most likely come in a high dollar + desirable location set (Ewok Village, Cloud City, MBS Death Star, etc), and aren't going to be the main selling point if they do put that set out, so even if they did release this hypothetical CMF, and then two years later put out a Cloud City set, the set itself would still be attractive regardless of whether people already had Lando.  Then, you could do some characters from properties not getting sets - Rebels, Rogue One, Solo, etc.  Throw in a couple of characters that haven't been made in a while/brand new characters (say, P2 Wolffe), and then a George Lucas figure, and I feel like that wouldn't really cannibalize sales of sets.

And again, the fact that they're sticking desirable figures in microfighters now seems to point to the idea that they're not as worried about losing a selling point.  As long as they're not putting out multiple sets with Rex at the same time plus a Rex CMF, they'd be fine.  Or, just do something where the Rex on shelves is P2, and in the series is P1.  

[Samppu]

3 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

I've thought about the selling point, but at the same time, this didn't really seem to affect the other licensed series - they just did a mixture of exclusive characters or variants to where they can still put appealing figures in sets.

A SW series, for example - you could do a couple of variations of main OT characters that aren't as conducive to sets or aren't on shelves right now - maybe stuff like ghost Obi-Wan, Cloud City Lando (since apparently they only put him out every 20 years or so), or a highly detailed Vader.  Those figures would realistically most likely come in a high dollar + desirable location set (Ewok Village, Cloud City, MBS Death Star, etc), and aren't going to be the main selling point if they do put that set out, so even if they did release this hypothetical CMF, and then two years later put out a Cloud City set, the set itself would still be attractive regardless of whether people already had Lando.  Then, you could do some characters from properties not getting sets - Rebels, Rogue One, Solo, etc.  Throw in a couple of characters that haven't been made in a while/brand new characters (say, P2 Wolffe), and then a George Lucas figure, and I feel like that wouldn't really cannibalize sales of sets.

And again, the fact that they're sticking desirable figures in microfighters now seems to point to the idea that they're not as worried about losing a selling point.  As long as they're not putting out multiple sets with Rex at the same time plus a Rex CMF, they'd be fine.  Or, just do something where the Rex on shelves is P2, and in the series is P1.  

Exactly. Harry Potter has done exactly this in a very successful way given that it got two CMF lineups. Had the first one somehow failed or cannibalised the sales of the sets, they probably wouldn't have done the second series. The same thing with the superheroes.

Star Wars has tons of characters, which are iconic yet not part of the main heroes and thus which were not likely to appear in any set. For them a CMF lineup or appearance in an advent calendar would be the best opportunity to bring them about. For example, any Padme dress or Mass Amedda or Dexter or any Fallen Order character etc.

And perhaps most importantly the viewpoint should not only be whether a SW CMF line would reduce the sales of SW sets, but whether it could actually increase them.

For example, if we now had a number of Jabba's thugs available as CMF figures, they could potentially even drive the desire to buy the actual barge for them to guard.

[NoOneOfImportance]

5 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I wouldn‘t be so sure. The two main issues are that they‘d A) lose a selling point for regular sets if desirable characters suddenly showed up as CMF figures, and B) that SW is simply too big of a franchise. They‘d have to do be very specific about what they pick for a 12-figure series. Since representing main characters is a staple of all licensed series, they‘d have to do series based on individual shows and movies (rather than SW as a whole) so they could still make for the side characters that we want, and even then 12 would be nowhere near enough  Just my 2 cents tho.

I would tend to agree with this, but I want to take it a step further. LEGO knows that they can get more money if they don't give people the option to get the Star Wars characters for cheaper. 

Think about it this way: Imagine you want to build up an army of Stormtroopers (in 2025, mind you) - 

If you want three stormtroopers, the cheapest option is to pay $40 per set of 3 with the Rebel vs. Imperial battle pack, totaling $200 if you want 15 of them. 

If LEGO put Stormies in a CMF, it would cost people $75 to get 15 of them, and if they call it quits at that, LEGO knows they could have gotten $125 more if they had packaged differently, since there is a large group that would buy up battle packs (with everything they didn't want too) to amass their army. 

Or, for the clone-peoples in the room, the most economical way to buy 212th troopers from a store shelf is the $140 AT-TE (now $112 USD in a lot of places, so we'll go with that). That's an extra $97 for LEGO for every AT-TE people buy to expand their 212th army. 

One more example - Imagine LEGO did a CMF with Ghost Ben Kenobi for $5. People would buy one of them, and call it a day, or maybe they'd buy 3 CMFs if they did the three ROTJ ghosts. Now consider if LEGO put all three ghosts into a $500 Ewok Village as the only "new" figures. How many people would quickly buy that Ewok Village to finally get the ghost figures that LEGO had never made before. 

This is pretty different than Harry Potter. For one, there isn't a big enough LEGO Harry Potter extensive collector fanbase in the same sense as Star Wars. People don't army-build Harry Potter (intentionally), and no one is going to drop $300 to get a James Potter figure unless he comes in a great set with good builds, etc. (and people would buy this for the whole package), so putting figs like James, or Azkaban Bellatrix, or others into a CMF isn't going to affect Harry Potter sales in the same way that putting Ben's Ghost in a $5 set would affect a $500 Ewok Village. 

[THELEGOBATMAN]

7 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

I wouldn‘t be so sure. The two main issues are that they‘d A) lose a selling point for regular sets if desirable characters suddenly showed up as CMF figures, and B) that SW is simply too big of a franchise. They‘d have to do be very specific about what they pick for a 12-figure series. Since representing main characters is a staple of all licensed series, they‘d have to do series based on individual shows and movies (rather than SW as a whole) so they could still make for the side characters that we want, and even then 12 would be nowhere near enough  Just my 2 cents tho.

Wouldn't the exact same words be true for Marvel though? 

[BrickBob Studpants]

19 minutes ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Wouldn't the exact same words be true for Marvel though? 

No, because the two MCU series were mostly based on shows that didn’t get sets, ignoring the two What If sets and the X-Mansion  The CMF series were thus a good way to fill in some blanks. Without the series, we likely never would‘ve gotten these characters and variants.

In contrast, most SW shows do get sets and thus don‘t really need a CMF series to help out. Besides, I can‘t think of any desirable SW minifigs they couldn‘t just throw into a regular set. The only viable option I see would be to go the Marvel route and release CMFs based on stuff that doesn‘t get regular sets, like Visions or Tales of the XYZ.

[CloneCommando99]

30 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

The only viable option I see would be to go the Marvel route and release CMFs based on stuff that doesn‘t get regular sets, like Visions or Tales of the XYZ.

Videogame CMF would be excellent.

Perfect opportunity to finally get characters like: Starkiller, Jedi Survivor, Merrin, Dagan Gera, Rebel Iden, 2nd Sister, Greez, Kay Vess, Kyle Katarn, Mara Jade, Bode Akuna, ND-5, etc…

Likewise for books: Ascendancy/ or Lieutenant Thrawn, Eli Vanto, Vernestra Ro, Norra Wexley, Jas Emari, Sinjir Rath Velus, Doctor Aphra, ARC Trooper Alpha, Mara Jade, Gallius Rax, Governor Adelhard, etc…

Or they could always go D&D style and make a bunch of different customisable character options.

[TeddytheSpoon]

10 hours ago, Kit Figsto said:

Anyway, I think my point still stands about the hypothetical existence of a SW CMF series.  If they could, they would.

While I broadly agree with the 'if they could, they would' statement, I do also wonder if the current SW sales data is leading them to believe it's not a good business move. It seems (to me anyway) that SW is becoming more minifig-averse with the proliferation of 18+ sets. IIRC it was mentioned a few pages back, but some non-AFOLs may see minifigs as an indicator that a given set is a toy, rather than something targeted at adults. Clearly the theme is becoming more targeted at that market, so logically one could assume that the market for SW minifigs (and therefore a CMF series) is becoming less and less important for TLG's bottom line.

Did @BrickBob Studpants do some sort of number-crunching on the amount of figs we get nowadays? That might lend some credence to this little theory.