Gorilla94 Posted October 29 Posted October 29 (edited) 2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: The appeal of CMF series is to get characters and versions we otherwise wouldn‘t, not slightly update already existing minifigs This. The only stuff sorely missing in my opinion are the Bloody Baron and robes for ravenclaw and hufflepuff with printed medium legs... It sucks they did not give Cho and Luna such robes in the cmf. If we want to get crazy prefect robes like Percy came with in a book. A bald hairpiece for philosophers stone Flittwick would be cool. I also gladly take any leiser known background teacher... I can't see how to fill a whole cmf with figures, that actually need to ne cmfs and would sell well. The average consumer does not know Prof. Binns. Edited October 29 by Gorilla94 Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 29 Posted October 29 20 minutes ago, Gorilla94 said: I can't see how to fill a whole cmf with figures, that actually need to ne cmfs and would sell well. The average consumer does not know Prof. Binns. As I said, they could‘ve done a third series in 2022, but even then we already got the obvious candidates like Kreacher, Pomfrey, Pince, Yaxley, and OotP Tonks anyway, and other characters frequently appearing on such wishlists have since showed up in sets and books as well, such as Rita Skeeter, Karkaroff, Bill, and Narcissa. Now the final character you‘d often see on such lists - Xenophilius - gets released in January, leaving exactly nobody Well, maybe not nobody, but a CMF with only 12 minifigs would need some heavy hitters, and Mundungus Fletcher, Scrimgeour, the Carrows, and random students just aren‘t it. And I doubt a series only consisting of updated minifigs would be much of a draw. So far, every CMF series has mostly featured either new characters or noteworthy variants that haven‘t been done before. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 29 Posted October 29 A picture of the cauldron is out! Gotta say, I looove the new boxart! Kinda strange not to have the trio on there, but it looks great nonetheless! Also, looks like I was right about the patroni being trans-light blue satin Quote
Tariq j Posted October 29 Posted October 29 It looks good. Not quite as detailed as it could have been but there’s some nice parts like the various jars and the blackboard recipe that you could add to the existing classroom. Plus the cauldron on its own makes a nice display piece. Quote
Accio Lego Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Damn, the Cauldron is an amazing display piece, plus has some neat parts inside. I might not be able to skip that. Also, looks like the patronuses will be pearlescent trans light blue this time, so anyone who wants all of them to match can’t rely on having the previous four that were released. Quote
Kaijumeister Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) 2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: A picture of the cauldron is out! Gotta say, I looove the new boxart! Kinda strange not to have the trio on there, but it looks great nonetheless! Also, looks like I was right about the patroni being trans-light blue satin This is the first thing that stood out to me too, the box art template is fantastic! The set itself looks unique and the black / purple colours pop quite nicely. Sets like this strike a nice compromise between offering a display piece that also serves as a system playset. Definitely a more creative approach than buildable objects or characters in my opinion. Edited October 30 by Kaijumeister Quote
Accio Lego Posted October 30 Posted October 30 26 minutes ago, Kaijumeister said: This is the first thing that stood out to me too, the box art template is fantastic! The set itself looks unique and the black / purple colours pop quite nicely. Sets like this strike a nice compromise between offering a display piece that also serves as a system playset. Definitely a more creative approach than buildable objects or characters in my opinion. Lego has done a few other buildable object + concealed playset room sets in their minidoll lines (most of them being flowerpot based). The cauldron definitely pushes the limits of what they’ve done previously, with impressive results (the working stir stick is delightful), and minifigs being more compact allows for a little more elbow room on the inside too. Quote
brickbride Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) Huh. That does look pretty nice (if not EUR 60 nice). Though I'm still baffled by the idea of a "secret potions class" INSIDE A CAULDRON, I mean WTF? It's like the old Snape's Class set (4705 I think) where he keeps his secret scrolls UNDERNEATH A BUBBLING CAULDRON. That seems like such a terrible idea on so many levels. Also I realize that LEGO probably just wanted to up the female characters quota (and was limited to picking one with a known patronus who's also Snape's student and not already featured in the Lovegood House) but the idea of just Snape and Hermione having a "secret potions class" together in such an intimate setting gives me the creeps. Especially with the Snape minifig's alternate facial expression! Imagine being locked in there with your abusive teacher (who's also a genius with a wand and a very experienced duelist, so it's not like you could best him) and no way to call for help. McGonagall would have been a much, much better choice for privately tutoring Hermione one-on-one (she canonically gave her the time-turner and she's Hermione's Head of House, whereas Snape hates all his Gryffindor students and thinks of Hermione not as a brilliant mind but an annoying know-it-all who helps Harry cheat) and Draco, who legitimately is some sort of protege to Snape, would have been a much, much better choice for this set. Of course the the best choice by far would have been Teenaged Snape and Teenaged Lily but I don't expect LEGO to put that much thought into it. Edited October 30 by brickbride Quote
Accio Lego Posted October 30 Posted October 30 33 minutes ago, brickbride said: Huh. That does look pretty nice (if not EUR 60 nice). Though I'm still baffled by the idea of a "secret potions class" INSIDE A CAULDRON, I mean WTF? It's like the old Snape's Class set (4705 I think) where he keeps his secret scrolls UNDERNEATH A BUBBLING CAULDRON. That seems like such a terrible idea on so many levels. Also I realize that LEGO probably just wanted to up the female characters quota (and was limited to picking one with a known patronus who's also Snape's student and not already featured in the Lovegood House) but the idea of just Snape and Hermione having a "secret potions class" together in such an intimate setting gives me the creeps. Especially with the Snape minifig's alternate facial expression! Imagine being locked in there with your abusive teacher (who's also a genius with a wand and a very experienced duelist, so it's not like you could best him) and no way to call for help. McGonagall would have been a much, much better choice for privately tutoring Hermione one-on-one (she canonically gave her the time-turner and she's Hermione's Head of House, whereas Snape hates all his Gryffindor students and thinks of Hermione not as a brilliant mind but an annoying know-it-all who helps Harry cheat) and Draco, who legitimately is some sort of protege to Snape, would have been a much, much better choice for this set. Of course the the best choice by far would have been Teenaged Snape and Teenaged Lily but I don't expect LEGO to put that much thought into it. I don’t think Lego wants you to look that deeply into the implications… but I can’t say you’re wrong either… Honestly, Lego should have just leveraged the fact that they were featuring Hermione’s patronus to just skip the ‘class’ and Professor aspect and thrown Myrtle in as the second minifig and said it was based off the polyjuice brewing. Quote
Roebuck Posted October 30 Posted October 30 2 hours ago, brickbride said: but the idea of just Snape and Hermione having a "secret potions class" together in such an intimate setting gives me the creeps. Especially with the Snape minifig's alternate facial expression! Imagine being locked in there with your abusive teacher (who's also a genius with a wand and a very experienced duelist, so it's not like you could best him) and no way to call for help. I wonder how you sleep at night, It is only a toy Looks like a great display piece, however with only 2 minifigures and a small animal it's not cheap if it cost $60. Seems like the HP team like to make versions of Polly Pocket that probably are popular among girls? I see someone say the purple is a new color.. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Roebuck said: I see someone say the purple is a new color.. You mean the 2x2 round jumper plate with a Technic ball on top? I thought it was lavender at first, but the more I look at it, the more I‘m convinced it is in fact a new colour! Too bad there‘s no flask piece as I‘ve hoped, but the printed minifig head representing a labelled jar is a cool addition, and the boiling potion piece getting another recolour is also nice to see. Edited October 30 by BrickBob Studpants Quote
krimimimi Posted October 30 Posted October 30 4 hours ago, brickbride said: Also I realize that LEGO probably just wanted to up the female characters quota (and was limited to picking one with a known patronus who's also Snape's student and not already featured in the Lovegood House) but the idea of just Snape and Hermione having a "secret potions class" together in such an intimate setting gives me the creeps. We can't seriously run around complaining there aren't enough girls on the one hand (which I definitely do; the Main Tower was absurd) and then insist they have a Victorian chaperone not even vaguely provided for in the source material, and frankly I'm a little out-McGonagalled. She pops up in far more sets than I think her screentime / scenes warrant, and will be there again in the Sorting set. When I think Hogwarts classes, it's mostly Snape and Hagrid, some Slughorn, some Trelawney with a side of Flitwick's Wingardium Leviosa and Sprout's earmuffs, plus the periodical DADA lesson. McGonagall's class for me is mostly just an unspectacular "you're late." This winter required a Snape, and if the set had been with Draco, or Seamus or whomever, I for one would have screamed about the ongoing lack of female character representation. Plus everything you're picturing isn't canon, in a series that has Harry alone with Umbridge in her office with the canonical torture quill (I still want that set...) and which - in contrast to days past when Myrtle died - blithely kills Cedric off and petrifies several students all while school remains open, NBD, both of which exist in sets. An instructor hired by Dumbledore - fully cognisant that he's a fraud - literally hospitalises Harry with his poor magic (Lockhart) and ultimately attempts to memory wipe him, to say nothing of Harry's home life he can thank Dumbledore for. Also: the TriWiz as a whole (dragons? kidnapping??) and Quidditch. Abuse, physical and mental, runs riot in the series, often played for comedy; we really needn't invent extra. 1 hour ago, Roebuck said: Looks like a great display piece, however with only 2 minifigures and a small animal it's not cheap if it cost $60. Seems like the HP team like to make versions of Polly Pocket that probably are popular among girls? Considering the Polly Pocket Hogwarts goes for EUR 65 when not reduced , I guess they've positioned themselves alright price-wise. It still feels like the interior / playability is a good deal less in the cauldron set though, and I'm not sure a better exterior sufficiently compensates. That said, the Polly Pockets wouldn't tempt me, but the cauldron does. 28 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said: You mean the 2x2 round jumper plate with a Technic ball on top? I thought it was lavender at first, but the more I look at it, the more I‘m convinced it is in fact a new colour! Is the drip on the cauldron's side iridescent? Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 30 Posted October 30 29 minutes ago, krimimimi said: Is the drip on the cauldron's side iridescent? I think that‘s trans-purple satin, the same colour as the potion effect piece Quote
Jaromir Posted October 30 Posted October 30 I think we are close to have the whole wave revealed. Next week at the latest. Quote
brickbride Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) 4 hours ago, Roebuck said: I wonder how you sleep at night, It is only a toy Maybe you could forego the personal comments and focus on discussing the sets in the future, or is that too much of an ask? Just a suggestion. Plus as krimimimi has pointed out, HP canon is rife with child abuse and unsavoury situations. I wouldn't have a problem with this kind of "secret class" in a more wholesome setting but given all the rampant power and authority abuse within Hogwarts, the idea is frankly disturbing (and not in a "Victorian chaperone" way - again, Snape's gender is not the part I have a problem with!). The closest canon analogy I can think of is Harry's Occlumency lessons with Snape, and I don't really see Potions with Hermione going much better. Again, they could easily have made the two figures peers instead and avoided a lot of disturbing implications. Edited October 30 by brickbride Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Well, it takes some mental gymnastics to interpret „secret potion classroom“ as „Snape teaches Hermione in secret“, as opposed to „the cauldron has a secret classroom inside“ I highly doubt a single person buying this set will perceive it as creepy. At no point is it ever implied that anything weird is going on between them, beyond Snape ignoring her in PoA and generally not treating Gryffindor students all that well. Yeah, child abuse is undeniably present in the story, but interpreting the set in this way is quite the stretch Quote
Virginia_Bricks Posted October 30 Posted October 30 The Potions set seems to be the near perfect approach to what to do when a theme is running out of unique media to portray. Well priced, a good display piece for AFOLs, plenty of play-ability, and unique. Wouldn't mind a a crystal ball done similarly for Divination, some form of plant in a pot (too soon for a repeat Mandrake) for Herbology, and you could do an oversized boggart wardrobe for DADA. Quote
Tariq j Posted October 30 Posted October 30 20 minutes ago, Virginia_Bricks said: The Potions set seems to be the near perfect approach to what to do when a theme is running out of unique media to portray. Well priced, a good display piece for AFOLs, plenty of play-ability, and unique. Wouldn't mind a a crystal ball done similarly for Divination, some form of plant in a pot (too soon for a repeat Mandrake) for Herbology, and you could do an oversized boggart wardrobe for DADA. Yeah I like those ideas. You could do maybe a bludger or a golden snitch for Quidditch, a large book for Charms (since Flitwick uses them as stand), maybe a goblet for transfiguration. Spitballing here but looking forward they could even do stuff like a Philosopher’s Stone that opens up to reveal the fight between Harry and Quirrel and the mirror or Riddle’s Diary that opens up to reveal Harry fighting the Basilisk or a the Goblet of Fire that opens up to show one of the tasks or something. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 30 Posted October 30 50 minutes ago, Virginia_Bricks said: The Potions set seems to be the near perfect approach to what to do when a theme is running out of unique media to portray. Indeed. Some people may think that the show, if it gets sets, will breath new air into the theme, but I‘m very sceptical about that. From what we‘ve seen so far, all that will differ is some aspects of the minifigs, and maybe some additional characters that weren‘t in the movies. The uniforms, Hagrid’s costume, Diagon Alley and the Hogwarts Express will all look almost identical and Hogwarts will likely not differ in any meaningful way either, so set-wise it would be more of the same with slightly different minifigs And less variety, since the show will take at least 10 years to get to DH, if they even make it that far. Quote
krimimimi Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, Virginia_Bricks said: Wouldn't mind a a crystal ball done similarly for Divination, some form of plant in a pot (too soon for a repeat Mandrake) for Herbology, and you could do an oversized boggart wardrobe for DADA. Oooo, with a Grim just sort of discernible in the ball on the rear side, and a class with poufs, low tables, tassels, curtains, and teacups in the interior. Yes, I can see the potential there. Great idea. Quote
Gorilla94 Posted October 30 Posted October 30 I am not at all a fan of buildable objects, but that one looks really neat. Quote
(1)Stein Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) I Think we will have images soon! Edited October 30 by (1)Stein Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 30 Posted October 30 2 minutes ago, (1)Stein said: I Think we will have images soon! Well, not that soon, otherwise they wouldn‘t have removed the pictures of the cauldron already Quote
BacktoBricks Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, BrickBob Studpants said: Well, not that soon, otherwise they wouldn‘t have removed the pictures of the cauldron already This might be the only leaky cauldron we ever get lol. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted October 30 Posted October 30 11 minutes ago, BacktoBricks said: This might be the only leaky cauldron we ever get lol. Good one Also, I forgor to mention, it‘s nice to see that they continue with the same portraits! Third year now, so it‘s a new record for these collectibles ^^ Good! Now I kinda feel silly though for having given up and ordering the two missing ones on Bricklink a month or so ago. Quote
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