THELEGOBATMAN Posted January 22 Posted January 22 6 hours ago, zoth33 said: The prequels has it's fans more so than the Sequels which are utter trash. yes there was some hate on the prequels but not on the level it is now with Disney Star wars. The same is gonna happen with the Sequels when a new trilogy releases in ten years. Quote
kuzyabricks Posted January 22 Posted January 22 9 hours ago, zoth33 said: The prequels has it's fans more so than the Sequels which are utter trash. yes there was some hate on the prequels but not on the level it is now with Disney Star wars. I feel like history is being rewritten here haha. Prequels have been a joke for a quarter of a century now. They’re sorry excuses of movies except for maybe the third one. As poor as the sequels are only the third one is prequel level. I’m just glad the only bad movie in Tolkien films is battle of the five armies. Ignoring the love triangle, desolation of Smaug isn’t too awful. Quote
MAB Posted January 22 Posted January 22 10 hours ago, zoth33 said: The prequels has it's fans more so than the Sequels which are utter trash. yes there was some hate on the prequels but not on the level it is now with Disney Star wars. Like most things though, the hate comes from people used to the things that came before. No doubt the sequel trilogy will also be loved in 25 years time. Quote
zoth33 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 14 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said: The same is gonna happen with the Sequels when a new trilogy releases in ten years. Not going to happen Fans are fed up with Disney Star wars and there is too much entertainment. The sequels will be forgotten in 10 years 11 hours ago, kuzyabricks said: I feel like history is being rewritten here haha. Prequels have been a joke for a quarter of a century now. They’re sorry excuses of movies except for maybe the third one. As poor as the sequels are only the third one is prequel level. I’m just glad the only bad movie in Tolkien films is battle of the five armies. Ignoring the love triangle, desolation of Smaug isn’t too awful. All of the sequels are bad the last jedi and The rise of Skywalker is absolute garbage and the Force Awakens is just a New Hope with a different name. As for the Hobbit movies you just have to turn off what you know about Tolkien and the movies are fine. 10 hours ago, MAB said: Like most things though, the hate comes from people used to the things that came before. No doubt the sequel trilogy will also be loved in 25 years time. I have to disagree Disney has lost all faith with the Star Wars fanbase and they don't really have a new fanbase from the sequels. The way Disney is going Star Wars may be over in 25 years. The Sequels will not be remembered at all. Where as at least LOTR and the Hobbit to a certain extent will be remembered. 8 hours ago, Clone OPatra said: We've drifted a wee bit off topic. Sorry about that just addressing what people had commented on. Quote
RichardGoring Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Does anyone have recommendations for a good light kit for Rivendell? I started getting light kits for the fairground collection as they still worked with the lights. Then I got one for the Ideas treehouse and it made it far too hard for my kids to play with, so I stopped. My general rule is that the children are allowed to play with any of the LEGO. But Rivendell is just that bit too large to move around and so it sits on a high shelf just looking great, so I figure a light kit would be good. Has anyone installed one they like in-person compared to the marketing photos? The marketing photos of the Ideas treehouse light kit I got were great, but in real-life it was pretty disappointing. Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted January 23 Posted January 23 On 1/21/2025 at 1:19 PM, Cyprinus said: The LotR trilogy is iconic and beloved. Hobbit, not so much (though Amazon's shitshow redeemed its image a fair bit). The Hobbit movies are just as lore breaking as Rings of Power. People just aren’t ready for that conversation Quote
zoth33 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 2 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said: The Hobbit movies are just as lore breaking as Rings of Power. People just aren’t ready for that conversation I don't know ROP is extremely lore breaking but yes the Hobbit films are really bad lore wise. Quote
kuzyabricks Posted January 23 Posted January 23 3 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said: The Hobbit movies are just as lore breaking as Rings of Power. People just aren’t ready for that conversation Will still defend that first film forever nonetheless. Only major issue I personally have is the ringwraith song during the fight with azog. M4's fan-cut is fantastic though. 7 hours ago, zoth33 said: Not going to happen Fans are fed up with Disney Star wars and there is too much entertainment. The sequels will be forgotten in 10 years All of the sequels are bad the last jedi and The rise of Skywalker is absolute garbage and the Force Awakens is just a New Hope with a different name. As for the Hobbit movies you just have to turn off what you know about Tolkien and the movies are fine. I have to disagree Disney has lost all faith with the Star Wars fanbase and they don't really have a new fanbase from the sequels. The way Disney is going Star Wars may be over in 25 years. The Sequels will not be remembered at all. Where as at least LOTR and the Hobbit to a certain extent will be remembered. Sorry about that just addressing what people had commented on. The prequels are on the same if not lower level I'm afraid. Clone Wars did a lot of heavy lifting for the prequels' reputation. I personally wouldn't mind ROP sets JUST for the fantasy pieces. I have no intent to watch the show but oh man would I love a line of sets, would all be used for my own medieval MOCs and world building but just imagine all those gorgeous orc/troll pieces.... It would be fantastic! They're still wayyyyy below my want for LoTR and Hobbit sets but I would not mind them at all! Quote
Peppermint_M Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Ok, Cloney made a nice warning. Imma make the less nice warning: This is for LEGO discussion, not Movie Debate. Take it somewhere else, there is a whole Culture and Multimedia section you can chat in. Stick to the brick, or the thread might need a brief pause so you move along. Quote
mtrsteve Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Peppermint_M said: Ok, Cloney made a nice warning. Imma make the less nice warning: This is for LEGO discussion, not Movie Debate. Take it somewhere else, there is a whole Culture and Multimedia section you can chat in. Stick to the brick, or the thread might need a brief pause so you move along. In the interest of moving things along, I'll start with a movie comment and end with a Lego one. There are some fan edits of the Hobbit trilogy out there that recut the three movies down to about 4.5 hours, and they really changed my opinion. There's a great movie in there amongst the bloat. Highly recommend (presuming you own copies of the movies, I believe these fan edits are free to check out). Now, back to Lego, I agree with the above poster that RoP sets could really be great. There are some locations and characters in it that would translate into Lego better than it even was on screen IMO. It's starting to feel like that ship has sailed for Valinor though. Whether it's an IP rights issue or just an interest on Legos behalf issue? Edited January 23 by mtrsteve Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted January 23 Posted January 23 24 minutes ago, mtrsteve said: In the interest of moving things along, I'll start with a movie comment and end with a Lego one. There are some fan edits of the Hobbit trilogy out there that recut the three movies down to about 4.5 hours, and they really changed my opinion. There's a great movie in there amongst the bloat. Highly recommend (presuming you own copies of the movies, I believe these fan edits are free to check out). Now, back to Lego, I agree with the above poster that RoP sets could really be great. There are some locations and characters in it that would translate into Lego better than it even was on screen IMO. It's starting to feel like that ship has sailed for Valinor though. Whether it's an IP rights issue or just an interest on Legos behalf issue? Yeah there seems to be no merchandising for RoP. Not sure what’s going on there. Rights issues and blah blah blah. Sets would be really cool even though reception is poor (same for more SW sequel trilogy sets). But I don’t see it happening. I also wouldn’t want those to take the place of a line of regular sets from the Jackson movies. I want those to be nicely rounded out eventually Quote
Lordhelmet Posted January 23 Posted January 23 When do we think we will see pictures for bag end? Beginning of march? Quote
TheDoctor Posted January 23 Posted January 23 29 minutes ago, Lordhelmet said: When do we think we will see pictures for bag end? Beginning of march? Yeah, should be a teaser in the first week of March (based on previous releases) with a full reveal a few days later. Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Assuming it’s from Fellowship, what characters would people want to see besides Gandalf, Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, and Bilbo? For me it would be Rosie Cotton, Odo Proudfoot, Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, and Farmer Maggot. We won’t get all of those but I’d love some combination of that. But the most important thing is that the four main Hobbits and Bilbo can’t just be reused from Rivendell again, they need to be new. And then after that I’d really love a new hat/hair mold for Gandalf Quote
TheDoctor Posted January 23 Posted January 23 9 minutes ago, Balrogofmorgoth said: Assuming it’s from Fellowship, what characters would people want to see besides Gandalf, Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, and Bilbo? For me it would be Rosie Cotton, Odo Proudfoot, Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, and Farmer Maggot. We won’t get all of those but I’d love some combination of that. But the most important thing is that the four main Hobbits and Bilbo can’t just be reused from Rivendell again, they need to be new. And then after that I’d really love a new hat/hair mold for Gandalf Well, if you ask ChatGPT to extrapolate the data for minifig to piece count ratio from the past 10 years, and specify it's a licensed Lord of the Rings Icons set. The answer is 6-10 figures, which I think is about right. (I suspect it will be on the lower end of that guess too) Obviously guaranteed: Gandalf Frodo (sand green shirt & braces) Bilbo (burgundy jacket) Sam (he is their gardener after all!) That only leaves a few slots to fill. I actually wasn't expecting Merry and Pippin because they're never at that location in the film. More likely to be Lobelia and Odo. I think that will be all, given that it's Bag End-centric and not a few different Hobbit holes. When we first heard the rumour I was sure we'd get some background 'filler' Hobbits, but now i'm not so sure. It's a disappointing line-up with a lot of repeats (with new prints), but a considerable number of people won't have those figures from past releases or the more recent ones due to cost. This is a more 'wallet-friendly' set and needs to have mass appeal. Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted January 23 Posted January 23 47 minutes ago, TheDoctor said: Well, if you ask ChatGPT to extrapolate the data for minifig to piece count ratio from the past 10 years, and specify it's a licensed Lord of the Rings Icons set. The answer is 6-10 figures, which I think is about right. (I suspect it will be on the lower end of that guess too) Obviously guaranteed: Gandalf Frodo (sand green shirt & braces) Bilbo (burgundy jacket) Sam (he is their gardener after all!) That only leaves a few slots to fill. I actually wasn't expecting Merry and Pippin because they're never at that location in the film. More likely to be Lobelia and Odo. I think that will be all, given that it's Bag End-centric and not a few different Hobbit holes. When we first heard the rumour I was sure we'd get some background 'filler' Hobbits, but now i'm not so sure. It's a disappointing line-up with a lot of repeats (with new prints), but a considerable number of people won't have those figures from past releases or the more recent ones due to cost. This is a more 'wallet-friendly' set and needs to have mass appeal. I actually hope they do the party variants of each of the main Hobbits Quote
MAB Posted January 23 Posted January 23 3 hours ago, TheDoctor said: That only leaves a few slots to fill. I actually wasn't expecting Merry and Pippin because they're never at that location in the film. More likely to be Lobelia and Odo. It wouldn't surprise me if they reused Merry and Pippin in their outfits from Rivendell, like they already did with Frodo and Sam in Barad-Dur. Quote
TheDoctor Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 minute ago, MAB said: It wouldn't surprise me if they reused Merry and Pippin in their outfits from Rivendell, like they already did with Frodo and Sam in Barad-Dur. Personally, I'd rather they invest the money in more pieces towards the build; it'll take a lot of detailing to stop it looking like a green blob. Quote
Lordhelmet Posted January 24 Posted January 24 9 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said: Assuming it’s from Fellowship, what characters would people want to see besides Gandalf, Frodo, Sam, Merry, Pippin, and Bilbo? For me it would be Rosie Cotton, Odo Proudfoot, Lobelia Sackville-Baggins, and Farmer Maggot. We won’t get all of those but I’d love some combination of that. But the most important thing is that the four main Hobbits and Bilbo can’t just be reused from Rivendell again, they need to be new. And then after that I’d really love a new hat/hair mold for Gandalf This is my list too. I think 10 is my expectation given that hobbits are relatively uniform (face and torso prints would be different and different hair for females). I am hoping for one or two generic hobbits in addition to this list to get us to 12 minifigures. Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted January 24 Posted January 24 I‘m looking forward to the Bag End set, but the minifig selection is gonna pale in comparison to the last two sets no matter what they do, and not just because the set is half the price A bunch of hobbits (and Gandalf, likely) isn‘t much to write home about in my opinion. I‘m glad to finally have old Bilbo (as opposed to ancient Bilbo from Rivendell), but I‘m not really that excited about any of the minor hobbit characters. Quote
MAB Posted January 24 Posted January 24 11 hours ago, TheDoctor said: Personally, I'd rather they invest the money in more pieces towards the build; it'll take a lot of detailing to stop it looking like a green blob. Yes, but many people use the number of minifigures as a metric and expect a decent number and LEGO have shown they are willing to reuse prints even though they are not really appropriate. Pippin's torso has already been used in HP and as Shackleton and has been available in PAB. Presumably adding existing minifig parts is minimal cost but high perceived value in the minifig count. Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted January 24 Posted January 24 6 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: I‘m looking forward to the Bag End set, but the minifig selection is gonna pale in comparison to the last two sets no matter what they do, and not just because the set is half the price A bunch of hobbits (and Gandalf, likely) isn‘t much to write home about in my opinion. I‘m glad to finally have old Bilbo (as opposed to ancient Bilbo from Rivendell), but I‘m not really that excited about any of the minor hobbit characters. I’m super happy about any new characters or variants we can get from LOTR. But also Barad-dûr had kind of a pathetic figure count for the price, especially compared to Rivendell. 15 hours ago, TheDoctor said: Personally, I'd rather they invest the money in more pieces towards the build; it'll take a lot of detailing to stop it looking like a green blob. I don’t think it has to be either/or. Since they refuse to give us regular LOTR sets, these D2Cs are our only chance at figures. So they better deliver. And I don’t think that means the build will suffer Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted January 24 Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said: But also Barad-dûr had kind of a pathetic figure count for the price, especially compared to Rivendell. What the selection lacks in quantity, it more than makes up for in quality Sauron alone is worth the price of admission for me. Quote
Yoggington Posted January 24 Posted January 24 9 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said: ... but I‘m not really that excited about any of the minor hobbit characters. https://i.imgur.com/tgVf9kc.mp4 Quote
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