[MOC] Telehandler (WIP)- finalizing

[Aventador2004]

The telehandler, what a funny machine. They are commonly used to lift containers, dirt, hay, and other things a excavator cannot reach. This is the kind of telehandler I was trying to make, a cat tl642c. I did not own more than 7 yellow parts, so that goes out the window. I kind of used it for inspiration, and made a few changes.

Overview :

The telehandler steering uses 2 gear racks, and a set a gears to reach the cabin, they must be aligned, like 42009, but they have only minor backlash. The outriggers lock in place using friction pins*, and stay locked, holding the vehicle in the air. The boom uses a linear actuator to lift, and a worm gear to tilt. The extention is 18 studs thanks to a special system, it uses a (+00) with a 3l axle through it, so only extending, there is no need to lift the piece. If I can find all my head racks, it will change to a gear rack setup.

The model: 

the bevel steers, and the spur gear raises boom.

Outriggers:

front and rear:

front outriggers fit outside boom.

Boom:

lift, extend.

LA lift (1.667:1)

12 stud extension. the white piece allows it to stay extended.

goes into middle hole.

Fork:

tilt.

some pics would not post, coming soon.

can i please get some comments, my last few mocs have gotten about 3 replies, so c&c please.

Edited August 11, 2017 by Aventador2004

[Aventador2004]

11 minutes ago, LvdH said:

I like it. Perhaps you could add 4 of these pullies to those axle pins used as outriggers. Then you can use frictionless pins to connect the connector piece, and gravity should make them go down automatically.  

I can try the pulleys, and frictionless pins, but I could also add rubber bands to add strength.

[Aventador2004]

 @LvdH the idea works, and very well with rubber bands.

Edited August 6, 2017 by Aventador2004
I felt stupid for what I wrote.

[MangaNOID]

It looks good but I would like to understand better how the boom extends as I can't see how at the moment. 

How have you linked the 4W steering?

video?

more details please?

[mocbuild101]

15 hours ago, Aventador2004 said:

my last few mocs have gotten about 3 replies

Well don't take this the wrong way, but that's because your MOCs aren't really that great, and they are nowhere near the quality of the MOCs that get lots of comments.

Your MOCs are good in design, but the presentation lets them down - by that I mean the mixed colors, and the poor quality (mainly the bad background) of the photos.

And really, the number of comments also reflects how good the main post is - not just how good the MOC is...

Edited August 6, 2017 by mocbuild101

[1gor]

Honestly moc is not bad at all, but when I ignore official set this is a year of pale telehandlers. There is only one thing to do - to finish my yellow telehandler asap...

[suffocation]

It's a good start. I like the locking outriggers; not too keen on the boom with non-Lego elements (tape) but I think it's due to lack of parts rather than lack of skill.

Keep on building and don't be afraid of making mistakes - even the best builders make them. As long as you learn from them, it's fine. Also try to learn as much as you can from others' MOCs and WIPs.

[aminnich]

Like everyone else is saying, the mic is good, the presentation needs some help. Also getting more parts might be helpful. 

I had the same thing happening to me, I would build a MOC and be super proud of it, I'd post it, and one person would comment on it. Since then I have gotten a lot more parts so I have more variety. 

Just work on presentation. Look at what the professional grade MOCs have in their original post; intro, pic of real machine, pics of MOC, lots of description, most of the time one of more videos. 

[Aventador2004]

47 minutes ago, aminnich said:

had the same thing happening to me, I would build a MOC and be super proud of it, I'd post it, and one person would comment on it. Since then I have gotten a lot more parts so I have more variety. 

 

1 hour ago, suffocation said:

It's a good start. I like the locking outriggers; not too keen on the boom with non-Lego elements (tape) but I think it's due to lack of parts rather than lack of skill.

The tape was to cover the end mechanism, but it has been removed. 

9 hours ago, MangaNOID said:

more details please?

I will take more pics with a different backdrop and show in pictures. The first post is updated, with more details. A video will come.

2 hours ago, I_Igor said:

Honestly moc is not bad at all, but when I ignore official set this is a year of pale telehandlers. There is only one thing to do - to finish my yellow telehandler asap...

Steal the spotlight, don't forget the crop sprayer. And the official set had no outriggers.

5 hours ago, mocbuild101 said:

Well don't take this the wrong way, but that's because your MOCs aren't really that great, and they are nowhere near the quality of the MOCs that get lots of comments.

Your MOCs are good in design, but the presentation lets them down - by that I mean the mixed colors, and the poor quality (mainly the bad background) of the photos.

And really, the number of comments also reflects how good the main post is - not just how good the MOC is...

I understand I am not to hundreds of comments, Just enough to know what to change, or how to do better. I just meant enough to know what is good, or what is bad. I need to find a better photo area, the desk is too dark, but a wood color might work.

[1gor]

@Aventador2004 I did not forgot about sprayer, but I have to make prototype sprayer parts in another colors and then order more green because I do to want to dissasble this one 

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=535335

When I was thinking about yellow I meant on other maker JCB. 

Edited August 6, 2017 by I_Igor

[Aventador2004]

46 minutes ago, I_Igor said:

@Aventador2004

When I was thinking about yellow I meant on other maker JCB. 

It would be nice to see them side by side, but i live too far away.

[mocbuild101]

1 hour ago, Aventador2004 said:

I understand I am not to hundreds of comments, Just enough to know what to change, or how to do better. I just meant enough to know what is good, or what is bad.

Well in that case... here's my feedback:

• you need to use fewer and more contrasting colors - 7 colors is too much, and white and light grey is too similar.
• the scaling is off in some areas - the boom is too big, and forks are not far enough apart.
• the photo background needs improving - the more uniform and colorless it is, the better.

Also, that's a much better start to the topic - an introduction and a photo of the real thing.

Edited August 6, 2017 by mocbuild101

[Aventador2004]

14 minutes ago, mocbuild101 said:

Well in that case... here's my feedback:

• you need to use fewer and more contrasting colors - 7 colors is too much, and white and light grey is too similar.
• the scaling is off in some areas - the boom is too big, and forks are not far enough apart.
• the photo background needs improving - the more uniform and colorless it is, the better.

Also, that's a much better start to the topic - an introduction and a photo of the real thing.

Thanks, I will work on those things.

Is it ok to improve a little in a non wip topic?

[1gor]

@Aventador2004,

I know that that you live far away, but with "modern" technology (photoshop and other manipulative software) we can make them be side by side...of course this requires some playing (with yourself) but it is dooable (after some hundred trial and error circles of (bad)luck )

Understanding and respect do not have borders (or limits). But also (is sad) you can not find them next door 

Even Jezus could not preach in his willage, so he had to move on

[mocbuild101]

14 hours ago, Aventador2004 said:

Is it ok to improve a little in a non wip topic?

Yes, that should be fine! But if you want, you could change the title to "[MOC][WIP] Telehandler"

[MattL600]

Good engineering but a tad ugly. Good job though! I know you can improve it!

[Aventador2004]

4 hours ago, mocbuild101 said:

Yes, that should be fine! But if you want, you could change the title to "[MOC][WIP] Telehandler"

Done, I have a few changes to show today.

[Aventador2004]

Sorry for not adding pics, my camera is acting up.

Pics soon.

[BrickbyBrickTechnic]

This moc is pretty good.

The functionality is what it needs to be, but the color vomit... 

You seem like a passionate person, so I hope you take some time and improve!

As @suffocation said, it's a good start. I hope to see more

Edited August 10, 2017 by BrickbyBrickTechnic
Had to add some

[Aventador2004]

10 hours ago, BrickbyBrickTechnic said:

This moc is pretty good.

The functionality is what it needs to be, but the color vomit... 

You seem like a passionate person, so I hope you take some time and improve!

As @suffocation said, it's a good start. I hope to see more

Thanks! I am rebuilding it, but I took a quick video before disassembly. The video was taken with a newer version, color vomit gone. It may be a day before I upload the video.

[Aventador2004]

Hey @mocbuild101

Is this more appealing to you color wise? I found the problem with the camera, and uploaded new pics.

(This version is disassembled.)

Lift mode. (How is the backround?)

Out

In (18 stud extension)

Outriggers (no friction idea from @LvdH)

Are the pics correct size? I am not sure if 1024x860 is still allowed.

Thanks for looking!

 

Edited August 11, 2017 by Aventador2004

[syclone]

Imo it is too boxy , I understand that it is much easier to build with modern 3x11 panels, however ,even the original has a curve on the non-driver side; try the curved 5x11 (#18) panel instead. I'm quite sure that with a few angled connectors and more time you can even make an openable door on the driver side 

Edited August 11, 2017 by Xewyz2001

[mocbuild101]

5 hours ago, Aventador2004 said:

Hey @mocbuild101

Is this more appealing to you color wise?

Yes, it's much better! (although a bit of editing to make it brighter would be good - but I think that's just me... )

5 hours ago, Aventador2004 said:

Are the pics correct size? I am not sure if 1024x860 is still allowed.

Almost... Here's what is on the Eurobricks guidelines page:

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[Aventador2004]

4 hours ago, mocbuild101 said:

Yes, it's much better! (although a bit of editing to make it brighter would be good - but I think that's just me... )

Thanks, I shall try editing in the future, but I'm no computer geek .

4 hours ago, Xewyz2001 said:

Imo it is too boxy , I understand that it is much easier to build with modern 3x11 panels, however ,even the original has a curve on the non-driver side; try the curved 5x11 (#18) panel instead. I'm quite sure that with a few angled connectors and more time you can even make an openable door on the driver side 

I might try to put a fake engine compartment in there, so it was boxy.

[BrickbyBrickTechnic]

I see some improvement! Good job!

It does still look too boxy as several others have said... but any improvement is a good thing

As for the pictures. They are not bad, the background is good. Just watch the focus of the camera, as some pictures were blurry (especially visible in the picture with the fork).