Part : Technic Link with Stoppers vs Technic Link without Stoppers

[darksheep]

HI

I see that on some moc's people user Technic Link with Stoppers and others they used Technic Link without Stoppers , is there a reason or is this just people using what they have .

Just thinking if there is no difference I don't want to order them unnecessarily for recreating other peoples moc's.

I normally used Technic Link with Stoppers and Technic Link without Stoppers interchangeably and never really ran into problems .

Parts I am talking about

Technic, Link 1 x 6 without Stoppers

Technic Link 1 x 6 with Stoppers

[DrJB]

They are two different parts (of course). On one of them you can insert the ball pin only from one side, on the other you can insert from both sides. I use whatever I have in my collection but I prefer the later model as it is more versatile.

Edited November 19, 2014 by DrJB

[Rockbrick]

depends which way in the ball joints will go - though if you force them the go in the wrong side of the stoppers one anyway

and horror of all horrors you could always cut the tabs off if you were really desperate and needed to

[Lipko]

You can insert ball pins from both sides into the part with stoppers too (I do that pretty frequently). Or I am living in a parallel universe.

EDIT: I'll check it when I get home (the part, that is)

Edited November 19, 2014 by Lipko

[D3K]

You can insert ball pins from both sides into the part with stoppers too (I do that pretty frequently). Or I am living in a parallel universe.

EDIT: I'll check it when I get home (the part, that is)

I too do that, in my mind that makes them less likely to pop off.. although I have never experienced them popping off without applying external force in the wrong direction. This part isn't designed to have a force acting on it in that direction anyway, so both parts are probably equally good

[Sheepo]

The version with stoppers has other important feature, essential in many of my cars: you can introduce an axle or a pin in the ball hole and it will not move, in link without stoppers it has too much cleareance.

This is the fromt axle of my Pordche

Edited November 19, 2014 by Sheepo

[darksheep]

Thanks for all the replies guys !

[Zerobricks]

You can also use the stopper version upside down. It takes a bit more force but the pin does pop in. I do prefer the stopless version though... Its cleaner and more universal.

[SNIPE]

With the one with stoppers you can put on upside down with a little force and it will stay put and not fall off,

Edited November 20, 2014 by SNIPE

[DrJB]

The version with stoppers has other important feature, essential in many of my cars: you can introduce an axle or a pin in the ball hole and it will not move, in link without stoppers it has too much cleareance.

This is the fromt axle of my Pordche

Nice MOC, Are you aware of a technic disk 2958 that would fit better in a disk brake?

Edited November 20, 2014 by DrJB

[Zerobricks]

Nice MOC, Are you aware of a technic disk 2958 that would fit better in a disk brake?

Those are functional brakes and those pully wheels are there for a reason.

[DrJB]

Those are functional brakes and those pully wheels are there for a reason.

Of course they are functional ... no one ever implied they were there purely for show. My 'concern' is that if you rub the rubber part against a cheese slicer, not much will be left of the rubber after a while .... whereas 2958 provide for a smooth friction surface, exactly how real brakes work. Don't you think?

Plus, because of the openings/holes in the current brake disk, the braking force will not be uniform, and the vehicle will 'shake' during braking.

Edited November 21, 2014 by DrJB

[Blakbird]

Of course they are functional ... no one ever implied they were there purely for show. My 'concern' is that if you rub the rubber part against a cheese slicer, not much will be left of the rubber after a while .... whereas 2958 provide for a smooth friction surface, exactly how real brakes work. Don't you think?

Well, the brakes are functional in the sense that they really squeeze the rotors and can really provide some resistance, but you wouldn't actually use them to stop the model. Motor braking is plenty for that. So there is no concern about wear. The flat discs you mention do look smoother, but they are also much less than 1x2 stud thick. If you stack two of them together like this there will be a big gap and when you squeeze the rotor you'll just close the gap. You won't get any clamping force. The pulleys work better even with the holes.

[Sheepo]

Nice MOC, Are you aware of a technic disk 2958 that would fit better in a disk brake?

Good question, actually I bought some of them when I was designing the Porsche, and the answer about why I didn't use them is here:

The flat discs you mention do look smoother, but they are also much less than 1x2 stud thick. If you stack two of them together like this there will be a big gap and when you squeeze the rotor you'll just close the gap. You won't get any clamping force. The pulleys work better even with the holes.

[DrJB]

I knew there has to be some 'logical' answer ... beyond 'they are there for a reason' ... Thank you SR71.