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I think it always deserves extra credits when somebody does a MOC for an original lego theme and it really fits into the theme with its whole designs. Good Job!

If we are talking about mysteriosly missing parts. 87375 that is supposed to be in 20250111 is also missing for me. I even tried by re-downloading the whole pacakge of new parts but still miss it.

Yes, that thing is very massive. But the problem is still, a modern industrial design has to be done deliberatly because otherwise the thing looks just unfinished, while in the 80s and 90s that was just the bricks you had. The other problem is of course that basically all modern larger windscreens are rounded and smooth. In fact I think, that the Magnetizer's windscreen also has perfect proportions, that basically no modern windscreen can replicate.

The problem I see here, is that this industrial style is created by a combination of two things, that in my eyes just don't work in modern Lego anymore: -Very basic builds that often consist of little more than what would be necessary to hold the thing together and give it a roughly vehicle or spaceship looking form. -Generous and often seemingly random application of "Space" decoration parts. As soon as you try to scale them up to modern Lego standards you will get the following problems: -You loose the barebone look, this can be seen with the remade Blacktron Renegade, that had its look recreated with the addition of Lattice towers because otherwise the middle section would have been to massive and empty. -Decorative parts need to be placed more mindfull, as they have to be built up from bricks to be of proper proportions or you risk creating an optical mess that actually cannot show its functionality (this is in my eyes an actual problem for many of the old space sets.).

Flick-fires worked good as long as they were exposed and easy to flick at. Which of course on many Star Wars set they were not. I don't think that those pins had more friction than the technic bar, as the length of the friction element is shorter. The old spring loaded Technic/Bionicle shooter may have been powerfull, but it also was large and akward to fit into a system set and often didn't make any sense were they put it (cough 2008 AT-TE). They also often had the same problems with their exposed triggers. But as a kid I think I would have prefered the modern shooters over what we had back then (akward Bionicle shooters on some of the larger sets or nothing). As an adult collector, the spring loaded shooters are pretty dircreet, especially when not laoded.

The spaceship also fits perfectly onto the start ramp of the base set, where it really stands out, thanks to that sleekness. The transport that actually belongs to the base on the other hand is so bulky, that it looks better laying on the shelf.

I think the despiction of 1920s China or India in those themes would be problematic today. I think the Himalayan parts would be OK. Maybe combine the temple, the Yeti and the Baloon into a nice set, that works for both display and play.

I wouldn't interpret anything into that map. But I just noticed, that there are set specific maps.

I think just like the Animal Rescue subtheme this is supposed to be sold through its animals. But yes, the foliage is really weak in this sets. Not that it doesn't actually look good, for City I think they are really well made, but they all seem to be little more than flimsy backgrounds. In fact they remind me of the pedestals in a natural hisotry museum or indeed the decoration in a zoo.

I really want to like the Jungle sets, but somehow they really feel sterile compared to the bright orange ones. They are just missing all those accessoires and little details to really get the adventure and exploration feeling across.

Back then, there were just less parts and colors for designers to play with. When you just have handfull of different accessories to create knights from or decorate spaceships with they will look similiar. But of course the main problem is, that everything that is not a on-shot has to be a story driven multi media project.

The problem with this approach ist that you waste large ammounts of bricks on additional walls, that could find better use in additional features or just size. And of course it blocks lots of play, something even an open up feature cannot really solve in my eyes. Personally I remember, that the bases I build as a kid often resembled a table-top map with an open top design.

Thanks, yes, the colors are in need of some refinement. Especially for the blue. The sideways connectors came as an idea from studying the last big space polic ship. You might notice, that the front section of the main body looks suspiciously similiar.

Thanks. Hinged canopies are of course still used, i.e. the Interstellar Spaceship has one.

WIP on my side:

Alien Conquest was a nice as an concept (Lego X-COM), but a failure in its implementation. The Tripod looks definitifly the best from the Aliens's side, while the two UFOs... They are too samey and I don't see, what the larger one really offers over the smaller, besides a ring, that makes it just larger (and cost more) and a spaghetti arm. And the ADU seriously lacked a standalone Jetfighter I think. But I understand why people really don't see it as a Space theme as the humans don't even have a single space ship and the setting is just Earth. BTW, I just noticed a badly placed Sticker on a official? product picture:

Who wrote those marketing texts? Especially the Blacktron II one not only sounds bad, it also doesn't contain any real impulses for imagination. The interesting part in my eyes is, that there were actually THREE years of sets in one catalogue. This of course means, that despite having only a small amount of new sets per year, and only one faction per year, you probably had a wide variety of sets around. I think it would be possible to spread the current three factions out, to give them each a couple of more specialized sets. To be fair I have no idea how to give the Pilots interesting sets that are better than the current Interstellar Spaceship, but I think the Scientists and Engineers could use some reinforcements.

Sounds reasonable. But of course the old magnets were so much better for a sci fi crane than just plain hooks.

Oddly enough Ice Planet is one of those themes I could imagine today. Maybe with a new light block as gimick to represent special heaters that are needed to survive the harsh envoirement. Btw, do we know why the magnets were retired? And why they then came back for two City sets, but completly oversized?

Nice. I actually don't really like the standard visors the pilots get. It just doesn't look right to have the large visor but having the helmet behind most of it. It was clearly made be not clear.

I wouldn't say that they are much darker then the old transparent brown. But I actually think that my intersellar spaceship has a darker teint than the other windscreens. So it could be a consistency/quality issue again...

This. I quickly looked though Ninjago and Monki Kid sets. Generally coloured windscreens are used for very flashy sets with mostly carefully choosen colour styles. Many others, still use just clear. Personally I really like the sleek look, that is really enforced by the black windscreens.

Space Penguin

I would say, the look of classic space also came from a limited amount of specialized parts, namely the cockpit-pieces, the wheels and some of the more decorative elements. Then the major brake came with the introduction of rounded windscreen elements in the early 2000s together with new building techniques like a lot more Technic within system lines, making larger and sturdier builds possible, which also changed the way stuff was designed.

Simple, a Lego train is a train made from bricks. This will of course also attract all sorts of trains fans. The same is true for castles. On the other hand, for generic Sci-Fi/Space to become Classic Space as most fans of Classic Space want, you need special designs like trans yellow windscreens.