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Lynch me, then. We have a mislynch, and there's only 1 or 2 scum left. One of them is Jo (or she could be the final one), so you can afford to lose me.
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There's no hiding involved; I have a real life too. A witch hunt attitude toward this won't help anyone. Like I said, things are being cleared up behind the scenes.
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Perfect scum claim for the end of the game. If they forgot their brains at home and decide to lynch me, they can't very well kill you. Touche. As if a minimal game has a role like PGO, though. Things are being cleared up behind the scenes. Take a chill pill; all will be revealed eventually.
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Did I stutter?
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I think, more accurately, I need some confirmation that Ellsworth isn't scum being trusted by the wrong people. Alright, neat, I'm down. Well, the fact that I'm confirmed town might help.
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Jo. Also, not trying to be difficult, but why is Ellsworth clear? This wasn't cleared up yesterday. Is he claiming vigilante?
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Oh, woah, unexpected twist. Awesome! Also, sorry all; real life hit hard at the end of yesterday. I read back a bit over the night, though, and I do have something I want to answer that I wasn't able to: His actions early on seemed townie to me - especially the "reaction vote" on Brice (who is probably town, now that Rob flipped scum). Kind of like a Dan-esque case, except he seemed to be free-thinking and proactive even on Day 2, to an extent. Obviously, I was wrong in this read, but yeah, I agree that his Day 3 was nowhere near as good as his previous days. I had been basing the read on his previous days, obviously. Hope this clears it up. I more than welcome your suspicion, though. Whatever it takes to find the last scum(s). Also, Eat me, scummo. Oh, also, did the investigator get anything?
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Alright, so I've been looking things over, and as it stands right now, my main suspects are Dan and Donald. Out of the remaining nonclears, Anne/Robert have both towntold, and Ellsworth is apparently town(??). This leaves Dan/Donald/Jo/Brice. I'm not so sure about Jo or Brice - the former is null leaning town, the latter just null. The one out of the two of them who sticks out the most (well, even more now that Jo put his scummiest posts in a compilation) is Dan. He was really active and townie on the first day, obviously working hard for whatever reason. I had him marked as town for then, but I didn't really see anything of note from him yesterday. Scum trying to frontload his townie workload? Thanks Jo - this is a great reference. Looking at this now, it seems like his reads only develop when they're convenient (i.e. being 'suspicious' of the two guys under heat after doing nothing about them before). Ping. Vote: Dan Flavin What?? What information would John's lynch provide if he flipped town - exactly what you thought he'd flip? I remember telling that to someone yesterday; I don't remember who it was. Was it you? I don't know. But yeah, this really stuck out to me here. If you think someone's town, you don't vote for them, even if their lynch might "teach you something" if they flip scum. I don't get this. Also, where's Brice? Has he posted today?
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It's less about the number of us left and more about the fact that the real cop would come forward to someone he/she trusts if this was untrue. If the scum are claiming there's a "secret cop" who investigated their members as town (or, even better, they could do one of their members and one townie), the real cop is certainly going to say "nay". Although, Jo does have a point; the only way scum would fakeclaim was if they knew the real cop was dead... that could explain the death of Frank... But if Frank - or hell, even Sol - was the real cop, what the hell were they doing claiming to someone in private that early? I'm still leaning toward this cop being real, but yeah, I guess it is possible that the scum took out the real cop early. Nope. Bussing Day 1 is a bad idea, because you never know what's going to catch on. Let's say, hypothetically, that Anne and John are scum, and their fight early on was designed to fool people later on. But this backfired, putting John in the position he's been in all game. This is the risk scum run by bussing early on. With so little to go on, every new suspect gets plenty of attention, which is exactly what they don't want. Yeah, sorry, a few people haven't given tells either way yet. Still, this is only the beginning - we're going to have more teamtells as the day goes on and then even more as whoever we lynch flips and we go into day 4. Wait, what?? There have only been two nights, why is there a third clear? So wait, the investigator told Ellsworth his results too... even though Ellsworth isn't confirmed? And you trust him? What day/night was this on?
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Ok, not much, but here's what I got: -Robert and Brice are probably not a team (this post; no reason for D1 bus) -John and Anne aren't a team, although John would have to be the godfather (this post; scum has no reason to bicker that early) -If the investigator is real, John and Eva can not be a team -Not too concrete, but I don't feel like Dan and Brice are a team (here to here; the interaction seemed genuine - scum like to avoid each other, even in conversation) -If John is the godfather, Ellsworth is likely on his team with him (this post, looking back now, could be a panicked bus. However, out of Eva/John, both could be town, and I'm leaning town on John anyway) -Dan and Ellsworth probably aren't a team (this looked genuine). -If Eva is the godfather, she's probably not scum with Dan (this post; Dan has no reason to pull her name out of nowhere if he's scum) -If John is the godfather, Donald probably isn't on his team (this post doesn't look like a bus) -If John is the godfather, Brice is probably not on his team (this post - It's tight between John and Tony here; no reason for Brice to vote for his scumbuddy) (Day One has a lot of good tells since scum doesn't like to bus that early, but Day Two's bandwagon on Tony was too absolute to get much out of it. ) Basically, John can't be scum with, like, anyone... Which we already pretty much knew. But yeah, if the cop investigated the godfather, it's probably Eva. Anyways, this will hopefully help as some of the unconfirmeds start getting lynched.
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That was seriously lame townplay from Tony. When you're being lynched, actually fight back. Like Jo, I'm surprised about Frank's death. I actually forgot he was playing at some points. Maybe he was a power role and blabbed behind the scenes to someone?? It's possible... This is good news, if it's true (hint: it probably is; scum have no reason to lie about this yet). Of course, either John or Eva could still be the Godfather, but for now, I think I'd rather not look a gift horse in the mouth. This definitely narrows down the pool of unconfirmeds, though. Very neat. Let me go check the other threads to see what the teams would be out of Anne/Brice/Dan/Donald/Ellsworth/Jo/Robert. As long as we don't accidentally try to lynch the investigator (that would blow), we probably have a 50/50 chance of lynching scum today (3/13 sounds about right; it was that way in Belville). Plus, a couple of these guys have been towntelling the last few days (Anne and Robert).
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Minimal Mafia Confirmation & Discussion Thread
Carl Andre replied to Hinckley's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
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This doesn't really help... at all. However, that having been said, I understand how hard it is to defend against a mistake as a townie. I've been there, and it's no fun. I'm not liking the accusation of your accuser. Your basis for suspecting Anne is flimsy at best, with your main reason for suspecting her being the fact that she wants you dead - a defense scum love to use. Thanks for compiling all of this, Anne. When I see all of Tony's posts laid out like that, I see that he hasn't even tried to put effort into our situation. Scum wants to fly under the radar without being... you know... under the radar? Lurking is the term, right? Tony's posted plenty, but hasn't added any substance to his posts. The only problem is that he got caught yesterday by Sol... who happens to be dead today. Past that, Tony's been exhibiting perfectly good scumplay. Well, we won't 'learn' anything from a John lynch if he flips town, and frankly, I'm not confident enough in the accusations against him to cast a vote for him. I stand by my analysis that he wouldn't vote first, and the vote for Ell could truly be a mistake. Tony seems like a much safer lynch. He's done absolutely nothing this game, and his main accuser wound up dead this morning. I don't want to secondguess and vote for John and then regret it later. Vote: Tony Smith
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I don't like John today. He was more here yesterday; today he's only showed up for this gem: Not really sure why you needed to vote Ellsworth to save yourself?? If you're truly town and you know your lynch would result in one less town in the minimal... wherever the hell we are, you should be putting in the effort to save yourself. That means actually counting the votes. You're definitely right about an unknown's death being better than yours - especially someone scummy like Ell (although he seems to have cleaned up his act today... I won't be voting for him), but you didn't seem too convinced of his guilt... That's not the best sign. And while I'm definitely not a fan of Tony, why are you suddenly bringing him up? It seems like you're deflecting, albeit to someone majorly scummy. I didn't vote for you simply because i saw no benefit for a scum to vote first... but did I give you too much benefit of the doubt?? I don't like Tony these days either, plus the death of Sol looks pretty bad for him, but John's acting rather scummy as well. John, why shouldn't I vote for you? Was I correct in my assessments yesterday? Are you town with good intentions?
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Aaand, now we're back where we started... except we're down one loyal townie. While this is preferable to a townie lynch, I personally think the tie put us back a lot; we can't win this thing if we don't take a chance! While I'm less sure about the Ellsworth lynch due to his more helpful attitude today, the John lynch was completely bogus. Eva's lynch too, probably. In hindsight, we should have lynched Tony. But I mean hey, I didn't exactly vote for him either, so too little too late. I'm still not comfortable with you, but this post has helped. If you're town, thank you. On the topic of Tony, that's entirely possible - I've seen it done before in the past. It was fairly late in the day and Tony hadn't responded, if I remember correctly, so if he was going to kill an accuser, that was the way to do it. This, of course, was possible as well. Even with such a minimalist setup, I'm sure we have a protector that can throw a wrench into the scum's plans. Maybe the scum decided on his kill separately from Tony, whether Tony's scum or not. Maybe they wanted Sol before he even called out Tony?? I wouldn't have killed last night, (even though I had/have suspects) and I don't see why anyone would have. There's certainly not enough to go on to just up and kill someone. While I'm not sure if we have a vig, I'd say it's likely. But that's exactly what you'd say if you killed him - "You guys don't think I'm stupid enough to kill my accuser, right??". That's what I'd say, and I'm pretty sure it's exactly what anyone else would say in your position. It doesn't help anything.
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Nah, that's not what I was saying. My problem with you is the fact that you voted John because he voted first. That's how it seems to me. I don't think you copied your vote, since you were the first to vote for John. And I don't mean it personally or as something offensive, I'm just explaining that voting someone because they were eager to vote is a terrible move, and never catches scum. People who are eager to take the reins and vote for someone who they think is scum are more often town than scum. Hope this helps. Addendum: The dumb thing was a reference to an old mafia proverb, "Scum or dumb" - I don't literally think you have low intelligence.
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Thanks for answering my question, Ellsworth! Unfortunately, it wasn't what I was looking for: There were like three votes at the time, with one of them looking like a reaction test. John had 2 votes, with 9 people still to vote. How is that bordering on a no-lynch? I'm calling BS. And it was "looking like it might be a no lynch eventually"? That'd be a valid argument if that was your last chance to vote before leaving for the rest of the day. Yeah, that must be it! Wait, no. It's not. You're here. Vote: Ellsworth Kelly It'd be neat if everyone would stop splitting the votes and vote Ellsworth. I did mention Eva in the novella I wrote before, but I don't think it's good standing for lynching her. While jumping on something like that so early is a neat scum move, the way she did it made me think she was dumb, not scum. Tony gets an honorary vote from me for this. Bad bandwagon, no reasoning.
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Well, it looks like we have a variety of suspects out on the table here. Just for a reference, this is what you're referring to? I'd think it was something else due to the lack of this exchange actually meaning anything, but this is the only question you've asked Anne. I'm not sure what the problem with it is. This is the kind of discussion that goes on between people on Day 1; what makes it "something scum would say to appear helpful"? If anything, your initial "so guys, what do we do??" was the scummier comment. However, if he was scum, would John really benefit from voting first? Logically, it is townie (as long as you have a fairly good case ), but many people *coughevacough* take a conservative stance in these games of life, and will find an eagerness to vote extremely scummy. Plus, even if everyone gave the case the thumbs up and lynched said Anne, if John is scum she's bound to be town, so we'd end up with a townflip in the morning. And, despite how often we experience Lynch 1 townflips, everyone still seems to look at the main accuser of the late townie. It'd be lose-lose for a scummy Johnny, he'd be drawing attention either way. I don't like his play so far, but I find that it'd be not in his best interests to not act this way if he was scum. And then you get Eva, who votes for John not for his weak case or his initial scummy comment... but for the fact that he's voting at all. Why, Eva. Why. I agree with this - particularly the latter part, although the former has its merits as well (as I noted above). An accused scum is always the peacemaker. Although actually investigation is a good point, one I'd neglected. Maybe John's the Godfather? I feel like it might be too early for this kind of self-defeating discussion, though. Let's find that argument real quickly: This is roughly what makes John scummy in my eyes as well (or, at least, what would make him scummy in my eyes if it weren't for the fact that scum wouldn't want to vote so early. Perfectly acceptable for Ellsworth to not agree with my analysis of that, though. What stands out to me about this statement he made was "it's between this or a no-lynch". The rules clearly state that whoever has the most votes is lynched, so El's "Well, nuts. Better lynch" is less than convincing. Dan also brings up some good points about him. This is a possibility. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. However, that doesn't explain why you said "It's better than a no-lynch". That's something someone says when they're fifth on a bandwagon and only halfway convinced that the victim is scum. You're acting like you were forced into voting for him, but you just stated why it was definitely of your own accord, and why you were really taking the initiative there. I also want to hear from Tony, who I don't think has given the discussion a lot of content other than "Help I don't know what to do". Although, then again, neither have I.
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Similarly, I hope you're town as well. You could kill with that sharp wit of yours.
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My artwork's a... boxy sculpture? Not sure how else to describe it. It's definitely three-dimensional, but it doesn't make a lot of sense. We are minimalists, after all, though. It's brown-ish, just like me. Judging by what Donald said, maybe all of our clothes are modeled after the colorschemes of our respective artworks? A bit of research reveals that my art was created by Carl Andre...
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Good night, sweet Craig. I'm not really sure who the hell you were, or why someone killed you, but we'll bring whoever it was to justice! On that topic, how could one of us have held a weapon to him? Maybe whoever it was bludgeoned him with one of their sharp corners?? Really? He looked just like the rest of us, from what I can see. I'm with you on this one, dude. The only one I can tell apart from the others is you, and that's because you've already gone all white in the head.
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Minimal Mafia Confirmation & Discussion Thread
Carl Andre replied to Hinckley's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
I... I don't know... Everything I know is a lie... -
Minimal Mafia Confirmation & Discussion Thread
Carl Andre replied to Hinckley's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
Would a real Female refer to herself as womany?? I don't refer to myself as manny! -
Minimal Mafia Confirmation & Discussion Thread
Carl Andre replied to Hinckley's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
Isn't Joe a Male's name?? Are you sure you're Female? Since we're all just relatively phallic stacks of blocks, it's a bit hard to discern the gender of some megablockers... especially ones with Male names. A nice long sausage smothered in applesauce would hit the spot right now, it's true! -
Minimal Mafia Confirmation & Discussion Thread
Carl Andre replied to Hinckley's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
Carl Andre, Male, signing in.