Bartosz

This is something I have to try with real parts, thanks! Not sure I understand the other part of post :S Got it now, and I think it's interesting to check as well. Yes - if the visible parts of PF gear forced us to add gray lines, the black ones might be just too much.

Yes - this is the black train plate. But the battery is over the motor bogie (it should drive better if motor wheels are "pushed" to the ground by battery weight. This means it cannot be lowered (in fact, it's one stud above the current train plate, just because one has to accomodate for bogie plate's pin). Now, maybe it would make sense to use turntable plate instead of bogie plate...so many ideas to try out :D // EDIT Forgot the bogie plate is integral part of motor, it's not possible to get rid of the pin...

@bradaz11 There's some merit to putting a yellow plate over battery box, and then adjusting front accordingly: Just don't like the amount of gray that suddenly got exposed on the front top, it just means we now have three coloured lines (from bottom): 1) gray (as in original design) 2) black (as in original design) 3) gray - additional

This could have some consequences. When you look at it from the side view: You see that rear is already taller. Placing yellow 4x4 on top of battery box would mean it's even more taller, and we still have the gray line underneath. Now, we could alleviate that by introducing gray line in the front, and making front the same height as rear - now, that's definitely something to try out, but a) we would have to move up IR a bit, otherwise it might get occluded b) I think it's gonna destroy the proportions a bit

Yup - 4563 is even smaller (one bogie).

Hello, So I've wanted to re-create some of those older trains for Power Functions, but, the obvious problem is the size of the PF elements. After browsing this forum for a while, I've learnt couple of tricks though (mainly trick from @Brick Pirate's small shunter), so I decided to check whether it'd be possible to fit PF elements into the engine of 4564 set. My other goal is to be able to bricklink it cheaply, so I've also replaced some rare parts. The result would be pretty great, if not for the fact that I was not able to hide battery box fully - and I'm not sure if I'd try, I'd like to not make it taller - as it currently stands, it's only 1 plate higher than original. Any ideas on improving it are welcome! More images at: https://imgur.com/a/vQZ11 And the LDR file: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v7jF9eCikgKt2e8_MWJCFB_9QrPpmGVz/view Enjoy!

Hello all, I sort of wanted to avoid introductory topic, as I just wanted to lurk here and browse the MOCs for inspiration. But then, the sheer awesomness of those builds, and the fact this community is still thriving (even in the age when some communities, based on "traditional" boards are dying due to Facebook/Reddit/whatnot), led me to realization it might make sense to do so :) I'm Bartosz, I'm 32, and it looks like that thing, commonly described as "coming out of dark age" is happening to me :D When I was young, I only had couple of small Lego sets, definitely not trains, but I absolutely loved playing with it. The fact I didn't own too much had various consequences - it definitely required a bit of creativity to get anything done, but it also left me unfullfiled, and, it might be the case, this is what's driving me now towards obtaining more bricks :) Anyway, I started to cautiously point my kids (6 and 3 years old) into direction of Lego, because, in the times when they can have so many toys, I found that I'm missing the toys that can be rebuilt, extended and used for more than only couple of hours after being bought...so far I hadn't got much luck, they are not yet playing Lego on their own (which makes me sad), but the side effect is that I (while still attempting to guide them to this kind of play) became hooked :) Ah, but we're in trains subforum, yeah - that's what I'm planning to - I kind of want to put emphasis on trains first. It happened partially because my father-in-law owns a TT model, and he was wondering if kids could pick that up (at some point). We realized that, while Lego is definitely not cheap, those could be even more expensive, and are (in my opinion) more limiting than Lego - you can build pretty realistic dioramas, but I gather that's not really what kids would like to do ;) Thanks again to all people involved, and especially to all people sharing their wonderful creations!