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All very good hunches. For now, I will VOTE Mary/Zepher as well. (not taking a drink this time)

Yes, indeed. Let us call a truce and focus on the suspects at hand. I think you may have been getting somewhere with your last line of questions. And I've been wondering about Mary for some time now. We are weeding down to just a few of us left. Do you have any more suspicions?

Perhaps you should apply some of your teaching skills by respecting those around you, and practicing a bit of diplomacy. You but only need to ask me for information, and I will gladly tell you what I know. I do not hide anything (but does hold a bottle of Holy Spirits close by his side). Bickering will not solve anything. I trust that those of you doing most of the talking are probably innocent. As for those who are not as talkative, I have my suspicions. We must join together to bring down the guilty. As far as the Secret Order is concerned, I absolutely know nothing more. I vow this on my brown robe as a Friar.

Here you go Stauder. It uses a 1x4 axle: Thanks BDB. I like reminiscing myself from time-to-time. This set came after my Dark Ages. I believe I ordered this set from Lego SAH in the late 90s. It was around $10 (USD). Thanks Elif. Glad you enjoyed the review. According to Brickset, it was a British Airways exclusive. Like I said above though, I'm pretty sure I ordered it from Lego SAH in the late 90s.

Light Aircraft & Ground Support Set #: 1808 Year Released: 1995/1996 Piece Count: 114 Minifigs: 2 List Price: $10 (USD) I was going through some old boxes in the garage and came across this old set that I don't remember buying. It was a promotional set from British Airways and although the box says "Specially Made for Airline Companies", I think I either ordered it from Lego SAH or purchased it in a toy store. Honestly, I don't remember but I know I didn't buy it on an airplane. In any case, I've only built this set once before, so it was fun building again and taking pictures for an EB Classic Town Review. Starting with the box: And the backside provides images of four alternate models; two boats, a fuel dock with motor boat, and an open airplane. I think it was great for Lego to provide these inspiration models to build something other than the actual set. I miss this with current sets: The set has two different sets of instructions, one for the ground support set, and the other for the airplane: Ground Support Airplane Pictured on the instructions (and back of box) is this alternate airplane with modified wing section. The wings in this picture are under the doors allowing for an open cockpit. The set had printed parts and also these stickers for the airplane tail/rutter and a no-smoking sign: The set included six tools attached to a plastic ring: And two figs. I love the green shirt with zipper torso: Also contained in the set are two extra 1x1 tiles, a black suitcase, and a black 1x1 round plate: Here's the ground support component of the set: What I like most is the little Octan gas pump that shows 3.09. The piece is printed: A better view of the ground support structure: And the backside showing the train window with light trans. blue window: Now, here's the aircraft: The front section even has a place to fuel up the engine - a great playability factor: Here's the nice tail section without the sticker: The top/wings have a hinge piece to allow access to the cockpit. Inside is a printed computer piece and steering wheel: A great feature of the airplane is the use of 1x3 car doors: A side shot of the plane: And the wheels: Both the ground support and airplane: And the complete set in very nice condition: Hope you enjoy this review. Happy Flying!

Then I think we need to be allied against those that have done this horrible act against OUR king. I don't know why the chapel window was recently "frosted" with the seal of the Secret Order. Perhaps we never noticed it before. I most definately compromised my position in the Order; and those that do their bidding in secret may try to see my demise. I thought it was important enough to tell you of the Order, but I sware my loyalty also rests with the king. I do wish I could tell you all more of the Secret Brotherhood, but I am truly unknowledgable in regard to the Order. I am also unaware of any other member who may do their bidding.

You betcha! Pardner My Son. (begins having another vision)... Could you hand me a stick, Kyle?

BOY My son, Don't make me open up a bottle of PALE RIDER WOOP @$$ Spirits on you! That's the second time you've disrespected me with your forked tongue, questioning my wisdom as a member of the clergy. If I knew more about the Secret Order, I'd tell you just to get you off my back, but such things are not shared with Pledge Members of the Order, that's why they call it a SECRET ORDER. I still believe that the Order has something to do with the King's demise, and one among you is not what he is pretending to be. Perhaps you know more than what you are sharing. Now let me see, I think I may have something for you... (pulls out a sharp Medieval-looking torture device in the shape of a small horse shoe). Yes, here it is... (Also pulls out and begins thumbing through a large leather book entitled, "101 Places to Stick a Badge"). Now would you mind bending over, My Son?

I am but a mere pledge in the Secret Society of the Dragonators, but I must admit that I now suspect that one in our group may have been hired by the Secret Order to bring down the King. It was such a fine religion... I was planning on selling everything I own and giving it all to the Order, to show my extreme loyalty and utter devotion to the Great and Grandest, his most Divinist of Divinities, Holiest of Holy, the Grand Pupa of the Secret Order. In return, I was going to be receiving my Fez of the Enlightened One. - What a let down! Wait! - I'm having a vision, a prophecy of the future... There may still be be a future for me.

Ahhh, yes... (immediately pulls out "How to Interpret Mysterious Symbols Discovered on Your Chapel Door When Those Around You Believe You Are Up To No Good: For Dummies That Is" from under his robe) Thumbing through the pages, the Good Friar begins to sweat profusely ... Yes, I believe I know the meaning of this mysterious symbol. It is the symbol of the Secret Society of the Dragonators, an ancient religious order that has vowed to restore faith and order in many kingdoms. They are a secretive group of clerics that work in shadows and deception, bribing feudal lords to gain control over lands in the name of their order. Their secret society is wealthy beyond compare, and more powerful than kings. It is also very ancient and mysterious.

NEW PICTURES ADDED After discussing this great "vintage" set with White Fang, I took these additional photos to add to the review. A shot of the roof and chimney/smoke stack: On the roof is the "classic" Legoland 1x4 sign. This set includes three; this yellow one, and two red ones on the crane (pictured later). I've always thought these pieces were "special": Here's a shot at the building. From this angle, you can see the vintage 2x3 door and 2x3 windows. These were very rare, even among the vintage sets: In case you wanted to see the back, here's a shot with the dump truck pulling under to catch some falling white 1x1 bricks: Closer shot. You'll also notice the green baseplate with smooth sections for the vehicles. I thought this was very cleverly designed: Here's ashot of the crane with red Legoland bricks: The crane does not simply rest on the blue tracks, but is attached by a section with 1x2 black tiles under the track. Here's an image of the simple, yet effective design: The wheels and the attached section holds the crane in place allowing it to roll nicely. This concludes the image review of the vintage BRICK YARD, my first "Classic Town" set. Somewhere, I may even have a picture of this set open under the Christmas Tree.

White Fang: I think it's so awesome that you can appreciate the value and quality of this vintage set. THANK YOU. I feel exactly the same way about these 70s sets. When I visit Legoland California every few years, inside their large indoor food court are glass shelves with vintage sets on display. They seem to rotate these every time I've come. I love looking at them because I know that they are old and represent the "true history" of Lego. It's very hard to compare these sets to modern detailed city sets, becuase they are completely different with aspects that make them unique. The scale was much smaller (with doors that are 2x3 (not pictured)). They didn't have fancy minifigs, or open vehicles. But at the same time, they did have playability "back in the day" - and they were awesome models! I'd love to see something like this built in minifig scale for today's city with a few specialized pieces. Yes, it truly is and formed the foundation of modern City Construction sets. Interesting idea. It's a little like the Anniversary Town Plan using the armless fig in the water fountain. No, actually it has a base with some 2x2 tiles that keep it connected to the rails. It's hard to see from the picture. Quite clever considering the age of the set. It slides very nicely and does not come off the tracks. It really is. I always enjoy turning the wheel to roll the bricks up the conveyor. They land in the dump truck and you can drive them away. Public Works (6383) released in 1981 used a similar method (without the conveyor). Thank you again White Fang. It truly is a pleasure to read yours (as well as other) comments about this great vintage set. Perhaps I'll share a few more images of the back and side. PS. I think we should create a new name for these types of sets, VINTAGE as opposed to Classic.

I went back to my local TRU today (Sunday) to take back the Magna Guard SF and pick up an exclusive Grievous fig. TRU is selling the Exclusive Grievous fig for $10 (USD), while supplies last; or giving them away free with Clone War purchase greater than $30. The Lego poster is also being sold for $10 or free with Lego SW purchases greater than >$30. For those of you wanting to see the Grievous exclusive, here's a few pictures: If I end up buying any of the Clone War Lego sets, I'll do so at Target or Walmart since their price is suggested retail. I'm really surprised to see TRU charging more for their Lego.

I visited last night around 11:30 and waitied in a line of about 50 people. Once inside, most were disappointed in the fact that an exclusive TRU Grievous fig for SW purchases over $30 would not be given out until Sunday. Each person who walked in the door received a free "Build Your Empire" TCG Game Pack with 6 game cards. No other freebies were distributed. Aside from all the latest SW figs and numerous CW Lego sets at $5 - $10 more than retail (plus the Hoth set), the night was very uneventful. I was told by a TRU employee a few days before the event that they would have raffles, contests, and other fun things. None of this occured. I did pick up a few of the new SW Galactic Heroes and an overpriced Magna Guard Starfighter (that I will probably take back Sunday), but overall, this event was really disappointing. I regret staying up past my bed time to participate. While in line, I was talking to a few older collectors who have created SW shrines in their houses and had seriously considered naming their children after SW characters. I was thinking, I'm glad I'm not a heavy SW collector anymore, People, get a life! There's more important things in life, like Lego.

Excellent! What a fierce and scary band of Dark Knights. I love the combination of armor, helmets, and weaponry. Interesting choice for a few of the faces with glasses/goggles, but they work. Overall, very nice.

Main Street Set #: 6390 (later re-released as Legend #10041 in 2003) Year Released: 1980 Piece Count: 568 (616 pieces contained in set 10041) Minifigs: 8 List Price: $40 (Legend was $65) Well, for those of you following my Classic Town set reviews, this is my last review before my "Dark Age" era hit. I've been saving the review as it has always been one of my favorite classic town sets. With a hotel, drivers school, 8 figs, 2 vehicles, construction crane, and lots of extras, this set was a gem when released in the early 80s. My set is intact with one missing minifig (the chef, which I found in a jar a few years ago, but can not seem to find now), and two of the black round 2x4s (which can easily be replaced). 6390 Main Street was re-released in 2003 as Legend #10041. I also own the Legend, which I had to purchase as a fresh new set. I wish Lego would re-release some more of these great classic town sets! Starting with the instructions: And the backside: Notice the crane removed and replaced with a Legoland Hotel sign which was a decal you could place on one of the crane beams. Also pictured in the instructions: The set includes 8 minifigs (isn't that a lot of figs?) The printed torsos were very nice. These are the originals: The Construction Crew (I love the red zipper torsos) And the others including Cowboy, Police, Princess, and the missing Chef. The female torso with necklace was also used in the earliest Knights Tournament set: I've always loved this little truck which I've wanted to use in a desert MOC: The backside of the truck: And the yellow "Drivers' School" vehicle: Another great 4-stud wide car! The set included some wonderful printed signs, later being replaced with stickers in the Legend: The great popcorn stand (which is a decal). The ubrella is a printed piece: A simple park bench rests nearby: What Main Street would be complete without a gas lamp? I've always liked this simple, yet effective design: The set includes the large cypress tree and smaller bush tree: An excellent crane stands outside the Legoland Hotel: One could pull up the building components with the rope: A control cockpit is attached to the upper section of the crane: The official Legoland Hotel: Check out the fancy entrance: My only complaint is Lego forgot to furnish it (budget cuts and all, or perhaps construction was never completed???) A nice feature of this building is that you can easily break away the wall sections and hoist them up with the crane. My favorite building was always this Western-style Drivers' School: The sign is a decal. I love the door design: And the arches in red with white inside: The 1st floor doesn't contain two much but does have room for the little yellow car: But students can take their written exam upstairs: Here's an image of the complete set, left perspective: The right perspective: And from a pigeon's view: This set is definately a "10" in my book. I use to add brick horses and pretend the Drivers' School was a saloon (destine to be a fan of the Wild West collection). Hope you enjoy this review of my "true classic"/vintage sets.

Police Boat Set #: 709 Year Released: 1977 Piece Count: 50 Minifigs: 1 List Price: unknown Released in 1977, this police boat is the same as set #314 released one year earlier with the exception of a moveable minifig that replaced an earlier "armless fig". Starting with the instructions: The single minifig: The set included a single red weight to keep the boat from tipping: Here's the side view of the little boat, with decals that have long been lost at sea: A shot of the back of the boat: The set had three air-tight boat sections that connected to form the hull: And the entire set: Final Thoughts: While set 709 is by far not the best of Lego boats, it was Lego's 2nd floating boat (set # 314 being the first). The design was the same with the only real difference being the minifig (mentioned above). One must consider the age of this set when comparing it to the fine detailed sets of today.

Fire Fighter Set #: 775 (same as 316) Year Released: 1977 Piece Count: 120 Minifigs: 0 (pre-minifig) List Price: unknown Well, it's not the best of the fire boats, but it was Lego's first floating fire vessel. Starting with the instructions: The back side: The Fire Fighter: NOTE: I am missing one of the original large red sections of the ship. This is a shortened version leaving off two of the fire guns. The front section. I always thought the simple design of the fire guns was clever: The upper section contained port and starboard lights, my first trans. red and green pieces. I thought they were awesome at the time! The top of the mast had a clear round piece as the radar: The back section had the blue section (which I always thought was a water tank) and steps to the deck level: NOTE: The original ship also had two additional fire guns on the deck of the back section which have been removed to make the boat shorter. In addition, see the instructions for a picture of the actual decal that should appear on the ship. The ship had two weights to keep the boat from tipping. They attached to the bottom of the boat (just like the Police Boat): And the final picture of the complete set (minus one section of ship): This boat has seen a lot of bath tubs and backyard swimming pools over the years, and was a lot of fun despite the lack of minifigs. Keep in mind that this set was released in 1977.

My pleasure Rriggs. It really is a lot of fun to restore these old sets. I'm glad I've done so, because I plan to store the pieces separately now by set in case I ever want to build them again - perhaps in another 10-20 years. Ouch! I'm starting to see a trend here Holodoc. Are there any classic/vintage town sets that you like? The cars were simple, but we're talking early 80s. Everything was more simpler then. I actually like the cars, even today. I agree with you in regard to the stickers. A few of the town sets in the 80s did this. It always made taking the pieces apart very difficult. I didn't realize that this was a US set only. This is the kinda stuff you don't know about as a kid. I never thought about that. But then again, it is a construction site.

I thought you might like this set KD. Were you able to get one MISB? If so, if you don't mind me asking, what kind of price?

I really like little sets like this. They make great additions to any given theme. Thanks for sharing.

I always enjoy reading your comments and thoughts White Fang. As someone who has a lot of track and a few speed regulators, I appreciate not having to pay for these again as part of this set. The drawback is for those wanting a complete set - who need the track and transformer. Then again, one could always purchase these separately if they need them. Exactly - just like the High Speed Train that came out a few years ago - the price was around $85. Lego also offered the complete set. I love placing figs in the little red carriage. They look good behind the large trans. blue windows. I accidently posted this set in the wrong forum before reviewing WF. I have added the poll and changed the title. My pleasure - but I lack a lot of knowledge in regard to the 12V sets - as I never really owned one. I do know 9V pretty well though. I think the intent was just to show the items contained in the set, but it probably looked awkward without showing any track. I never had an issue with the boxart. Thanks Panda, although I can't take credit for the great story. I like your 12V layout a lot - nice rebuild. Thanks for all the great comments. I hope more take time to provide feedback.

Classic Train Set#: 3225 Theme: 9V Trains Year Released: 1998 Piece Count: 281 Minifigs: 3 List Price: $66 I wanted to veer off the track a little bit and revive an old review of Set 3225 Classic Train. Additional information has been added as part of this 2008 review of 3225. Back in the early 2000s, I needed a small train for my western town layout and chose none other than 3225 Classic Train released in 1998. Sure, I could have chosen a MOT black steam engine with coal car, some green passenger coaches, and a nice red caboose, but there's something nostalgic about this little classic train. In fact, this train reminds me of the first 12V trains to hit blue track in the '70s (725 released in 1974 to be exact). This set originally sold for $66 U.S.D. available through LSAH (but I didn't purchase until 2002 over Ebay). I did get it MISB for $73 which was not a bad deal. This train includes four cars: a small engine, a tipper, a gondola, and a coach (some call a caboose); three mini-figs, a wheel-barrow, and a good variety of tools/cargo to load aboard the train. This set did include a motor but no track or speed regulator. Front of box: Back of box: The engine of this train reminds me more of a small German steam engine with its black color and red trim. It's build directly on the train motor using various small plates/bricks. The instructions do NOT include a way to add a light to the engine. Pictured without stickers: I love the large container of the yellow tipper: Tilting the tipper releases seven round 1x1 grey bricks. The only issue is that it sometimes sways open when running the train fast around the track: The brown gondola is very useful for transporting cargo. Included are two brown crates: one with 2 clear glasses and the other with a chain, a mail box with 1x2 mail plate, a garbage can, and a brown chest with a single 1x2 money plate. A view of the gondola from the top: The red coach is my favorite car. It has a removable roof and three green chairs for passengers. I did not attach stickers to both side walls. The windows are shaded blue which gives the car a cool look: Lifting off the roof makes this wagon very "playable" - fun to add passengers and watch them circle the track. The wheel-barrow to load the train: This set includes three figs. I really like these figs: And a nice selection of cargo: Although not an "official" Wild West set, here's some images of the train letting steam out in Gold City: Summary Before purchasing, I read a few reviews which weren't very good. Some criticized this set for not containing track and a speed regulator (making it incomplete) - fine for those who already have it. This set truly brings back early memories of Lego trains. It's fun and fairly quick to build (compared to a BNSF or a Super Chief). The set includes some very useful train parts and nice colored elements. I enjoyed building this train and setting up a layout around my western town. I think this is a nice nostalgic set for those of you who may look for one on Ebay; and lastly, its a fun train to run with its figs, accessories, and "small" narrow gage look. Larry Pieniazek of Adequate.com wrote a great story about this train as part of a set review, a number of years ago. Check it out: It's a sunny day in October 1898. With a shrill whistle, the noon local crests the hill and rounds the final curve into Durango. Exhaust huffs from the cylinders as the 0-4-0T slows to a stop, temporarily shrouded in a cloud of exhaust steam which the wind and sun make short work of. The bright goldwork on the engine gleams in the sunlight of the little Colorado mining town. The <-O-> logo and gold number 3225 in the side of the engine fairly glisten, as well they might, picked out in gold filigree. Life is good and the 20th century is almost here! The nattily turned out engineer in his yellow uniform blows a sharp blast on the cab mounted air horn to summon the local agent. Hard hat on, and clad in newfangled reflective gear the agent wheels the station barrow over to receive the urgent ore samples from the dump car, and begins to unload the high priority contents, with the help of the local mining agent clad in his jaunty white vest and striped tee. The mail is here, and what's this? Two crystal chalices have arrived for the mine owner's mansion, as well as some much needed saftey chain and the weekly payroll. The engineer clears the paperwork in his caboose and releases the freight to the agent. Just another day's work for the unsung heroes of the trusty <-O-> line. His complete review can be found here: 3225 Set Review on Adequate.com.

A tough decision... 7733 is a better set. I did an image review a few months ago if you care to see some close-up images: 7733 Truck & Forklift. I actually took back 7998 in exchange for the fire boat (before opening). I wanted it for my Seaport Harbor (but that's another topic). You would be getting 7998 at a better value if you decide to go this route, and could always pick up 7733 later. If you only plan to buy one; however, I would go with 7733. Good luck and let us know what you end up buying - I'm curious.

Public Works Center Set #: 6383 Year Released: 1981 (U.S. only according to Brickset) Piece Count: 395 Minifigs: 4 List Price: approx. $30 One of my personal all-time classic town sets is this set, 6383 Public Works. The set is an excellent gravel yard scene complete with a garage, two very nice construction vehicles, a gravel sifter, construction building, and working crane. Starting with the instructions: A closer view of the front: And how about these for alternate models pictured on the backside of the instructions: The set includes four construction workers, all with the same uniform: Moving on to the vehicles, the first one is a front-end loader: The back of the vehicle has a construction decal and a bar to hold some tools: The set includes a great two-section dump truck. I love the big wheels used on both vehicles: A little office provides the workers a place to check in and get out of the sun: Inside is a desk and chair: On the outside of the building is a clock decal: Outside is a quarry for white 1x1 bricks. You'll also notice some tools nearby: One of the fun parts of the set is a crane that slides back and forth (from the sifter to the quarry) that has a working claw: Here's a close-up: I love the blue sifter which one can easily poor 1x1 bricks inside: A mechanism in the back slides out allowing for the bricks to fall from the sifter: And the garage holds two vehicles with red sliding garage doors. The garage sign is a decal: Here's a shot of the entire set: And the set pictured in Tabletown: I was not aware that this set was only available in the U.S. until seeing it on Brickset. I'm not sure if Europe had a similar set with another set #. If so, I was not able to find one. In any case, I hope you enjoyed this review of a great classic town set.