Syal Antilli
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There's a good reason why you can't picture it, it didn't work to line up with the bow properly while maintaining proportions, so I would either have to redo that and the whole outline(Nuclear Option), or decide on another method of connection. So now I'm using a simple slide connection, which I'll anchor with pins. On the plus side, at least it lines up properly so I don't have 1/3 brick gaps between the bow and side hull.
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While playing around with Technic in order to overcome the unequal stud measurements from the bow to the main hull, inspiration hit me. What if in order to maintain a true hull curvature, I simply used Technic pins and arms as opposed to hinges so that I could fold an entire hull side down? I did play around with modular sections a bit, but due the potential size of the final product I think I'm going to forgo much of the play aspect and build for display. of course, this may change. Once I have more of the model roughed out I'll get some pictures up, or maybe a download. It needs to be considerably cleaned up before that though.
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Alright gentlemen, I have need of input. Going from a scale of 1-38-4, making the HMS Serapis about 140 studs in length at the gundeck and roughly 38 studs wide, I'm curious as to how large typical gun ports would be. I can't seem to find any measures of the Serapis' actual gunport size, and deciding how I'm going to model the actual hull form kind of depends on it. Due to LDD limits on brick and hinge workings I'm also trying to decide if I'm going to make the side of the hull flip open to view the interior (which I would prefer), or just end up doing a solid brick hull form. I've spent nearly two months now in LDD designing and redoing this several times, and right now i'm at a mental block. currently sitting around 1300 bricks and all I have is the base and some of the bow roughed out. Also, Who wants to design a figurehead? it's too big to use a minifig, and should be 2-3 studs wide and 6-7 tall. And needs to look like this... http://www.stephensandkenau.com/ship/hms-serapis/
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I know this topic is a little slow, but the more I look at this build, the greater my desire to get to the actual building stage of my HMS Serapis. Your HMS Enterprise is fantastic.
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Thanks, currently in the eight redesign of the hull. I did find some blueprints that I'm pretty sure are in Spanish, but I'm not exactly fluent. It's a lot easier at this stage to use those those than just trying to eyeball measure model ship builds off the internet. Unfortunately actual construction will have to wait a while, as my wife had a change in employment that halved our income. But at least it will give me time to prefect the LDD design.
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Reworking the LDD model to be more friendly to historical accuracy, and decided to stick with the waterline type build. I didn't have the tumblehome right, and the hull curvature was not correct trying to do a full keel build. Trying to find a full blueprint so i can correct some of the issues.
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Gentlemen, this is exactly what I wanted to hear. Kurigan, I greatly respect you and your builds, but I just don't feel I personally can do justice to such an intricate marvel of naval engineering on that scale. I do not seek glory, only the deep sense of personal satisfaction that comes from years of planing and execution. As far as model type, I envision a full keel modular model that can split to a both a waterline model for interactive "play" and stand-alone display. I plan on a full-function complete ship rig, with raising and lowering sails. Although I plan on fully modeling all decks, I might just go for modular side cutaways on certain sections to reveal areas of interest. I'f that proves difficult to execute, a full removable side leaving the structural ribbing. Anders, thank you for the LDD file, it gives me a much better idea as to how I could go about planing such a build.
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Though it may be an obvious solution to some, the execution is fantastic. Good Job!
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I was thinking of doing a traditional ship rig, making my own sails and all. From what I've seen from other builds here, that definitely seems to be the way to go as far as accurate representation and display. Doing everything I can in LDD, and have several "Green Hair" style frigates moc'd up as simple freestyle builds. The challenge of making something this large as a first moc build is not lost on me, but I'm finding I'm not happy with anything smaller. My wife said I can only do "one", so I want it be impressive.
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After a lifelong interest in fighting ships and Lego, I would like to attempt a minifig scale version of a Royal Navy Roebuck class fifth-rate. Perhaps the HMS Diomede, or even the HMS Serapis. Being the first true ship MOC i've done in over ten years, I would appreciate some input on how to proceed. It seems that most minifig scale mocs are somewhere in the 1.35 to 1.44 range, and I'm curious as to how experienced Historical Ship MOCs have leaned on that curve, and how it translates to stud measurements. Being an attempt on minifig scale, it'll be a brick-built hull; but i doubt ill try to have a full minifig complement crew as i would like to go the custom minifig route. With a 1.4 conversion, that would make a 100 by 27 stud design from gundeck and beam measurements. Roebuck class dimensions are: Type:Fifth-rate ship Tons burthen:879 26⁄94 (bm), (as designed) Length: 140 ft (43 m) (gundeck) 116 ft 4.375 in (35 m) (keel) Beam:37 ft 9.5 in (12 m) Depth of hold:16 ft 4 in (5 m) Sail plan:Full-rigged ship Complement:280 (300 from 1783) Armament: Lower deck: 20 x 18-pounder guns Upper deck: 22 × 9-pounder guns (later upgraded to 12-pounder guns) Quarterdeck: nil Forecastle: 2 × 6-pounder guns Any feedback is greatly appreciated, as well as tips and other thoughts.
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Thanks for the warm welcome!
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Syal Antilli started following Hello! My name is Syal
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Hello fellow AFOL! My name is Syal Antilli, and I am an AFOL. I know, I know, most of us are, but I feel the need to properly introduce myself to fellow addicts. I suppose I should tell everyone a bit about myself. I reside in the United States of America, in the State of South Dakota; and no, we don't ride horses and live in log cabins. I have a Bachelor's of Science in History, and have always loved anything historical in nature. Particularly Age of Sail and Imperial Era things, so I'll likely be spending some time in the historical forums. Anywho, my wife is getting irritated with me and the baby is crying, so I had best be off. Cheers!