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Onua and Tahu remain my favourites. Lewa and Gali look alright, I suppose. Pohatu and Kopaka, they seem iffy. Especially their shoulders. How will they look when they don't have CGI Box-art to hide how they look from the back or the side? Also, IDK if anyone's noticed this but you can see an outline of the creature, the Toa, and the resulting unification in glowing blue on pillars and platforms in the background of the box art. Tahu/Ikir and Lewa/Uxar seem to have the same general combination, as do Kopaka/Melum and Onua/Terak - they even seem to use the exact same 'outlines' for Tahu/Lewa's boxart and Kopaka/Onua's boxart.. Seems Gali gains Akida's gatling guns on the shoulders when united, and Pohatu's unification outline is obscured by the foreground.

The CCBS bones I find most prone to breaking tend to be the longer variant of double-y joint bones. More of those have broken for me than those that haven't. CCBS y-joints also seem to really disagree with Hero 1.0 feet, enough to create a slight, hairline crack in the back that breaks the axle hole, which does seem to be the weakest point of CCBS y-joints. I'm actually surprised the transparent CCBS pieces are as solid as they are, considering they're transparent.

Bit disappointed about the new torso piece, to be honest. It looks too printed and too large and shaped to be used as anything other than torso armour, unlike the 2.0 torso armour or the Brain Attack torso armour. I dislike the breakout armour for similar reasons. Trans purple though, I'm glad that's getting more pieces. It's the most beautiful of transparent colours IMO and goes wonderfully with black and gold. Still not convinced on Kopaka or Gali, and I am a little fearful that the shoulder connections on these sets will be a bit flimsy - look at the way Onua's shoulders connect, for one, particularly the right (from our view, onua's left) shoulder. Though the more I look at Tahu and Onua and their creature counterparts, the more they grow on me - Tahu looks to have the best hidden shoulders with Onua having the worst hidden shoulders.

Thank you. See, Mandate, someone here read the above posts unlike you! Also, Mandate has done nothing but attack me and my opinions. So as long as he continues his 'attitude', I'll continue my own. Because having an unpopular opinion is not an 'attitude'.

Yes, clearly I was talking to you and not about the freaking discussion that's literally right above that post. Apparently the discussion that goes on for several posts right above that post of mine doesn't exist.. I wasn't talking to you anyway. If I was I would have quoted you. What do Bohrok and ET have to do with each other? Instead of leaping to attack me, maybe read the posts above and gain some context?!I

I guess sets like the Bohrok and films like ET don't exist any more do they? I remember the bohrok being the best-selling sets of G1. Or ET's so very human design. Kids clearly do not care about this thing.

There is no sliver of white. Furthermore, the piece definitely doesn't have a ball socket in it.

Except it doesn't attach to the ball socket. It attaches via technic if you actually look at the image I provided. If it could attach to ball joints - which it can't, otherwise it would have only ONE technic hole on the front, and that is my point - then THERE IS NO REASON FOR THE TECHNIC. It can only attach to CCBS limbs with TECHNIC HOLES for TECHNIC PINS, and ONLY THE LARGER VARIATIONS have them. Because it's clear you didn't even look at the image which freaking proves it's attached via technic, and not a ball joint. Please actually look at the image I am now going to provide yet again, thank you. G1 MoCs =/= G1 sets.

I'm sorry, I didn't realise my opinions must align exactly with yours. Are the other people who don't like the wave also pessimistic? Pessimism is also a superior option to optimism anyway. Furthermore, the SW sets will be more profitable than BIONICLE. Look, SW constraction sets sold out in their first few weeks. Did that happen to bionicle this year? No, it didn't. It's a very clear indicator of what's popular and what's an increasingly half-hearted revival of its original self. If you look at Kopaka's lower limbs, you can clearly see it's not attaching to the ball joint. It's attaching via a technic construction. So, spoiler alert: it doesn't attach to a ccbs limb unless they have two holes for the technic attachment. Look at this image.

Thoughts: Onua: I like it. Colour scheme works better than in 2015. So much more purple. And it's great. Onua pulls that look off very well, and this is probably the biggest improvement over a 2015 set, IMO. Also, anyone notice the 'construction' just below the end of the torso armour? It's sticking out the back and the front, all the Toa have it... is this a new CCBS torso piece? Possibly a lower and upper piece to allow for an incorporated gearbox? Tahu: Those weapons, due to the technic, look like they belong on a bad MoC. Also, the lower flame pieces are really reminiscent of the 2001 flame piece. Gali: Worst of the wave, IMO. Seems the dullest, and most boring set. Lewa: Very interesting. Legs might not work well though. Pohatu: I like it. Probably also the one most similar to their previous form, except without asymmetry this time. Small sets, like last year, shine again. Terak: More purple is always nice. Liking the design. Ikir: Works well from the front, but I see a (relatively) large amount of technic for a small set that's going to significantly detract from the design when looked at from the back or side. Guessing the wings are taken off and added onto Tahu for the unity. Akida(?): Can't really get a good like but that's a lot of blue. Looks like the weakest barring Ikir. Uxar: I spot system integration. Ketar: Interesting. Kopaka & Melum: Kopaka is disappointing. Those are some horribly constructed and non-obscured shoulders that are going to bug a lot of people. He also suffers from 'no upper limb syndrome' PoF and PoI suffered from. The random black shells don't help. Really, LEGO? You already had them in white. Also, if anyone still doesn't understand how the new armour piece attaches, you can take a look at his left leg - it isn't via a ball joint? Seems an odd decision, and that will severely limit the part's usefulness if it can't attach to ball joints at all. And also a huge negative because this is CCBS, not G1. I'd rather a regular shell than an overdetailed waste of money. Think of all the WASTED, WASTED, WASTED money that went into designing that stupidly overdetailed part that just doesn't get along with the other CCBS parts, Versatile? Definitely not - it can't even attach to a ball joint. If more parts like this come in summer then we are witnessing the downfall of CCBS as designers begin to misunderstand their own building system. Melum is just a recoloured Terak with less claws. Umarak: 'Custom legs are good' until you see the gappy and hugely out-of-place lower legs of Umarak. Plus, what is even the point of the extra foot-leg connection? It doesn't make the legs more stable since it doesn't even reconnect to the torso or upper legs, it just connects to the lower legs...that's hardly going to prevent Umarak from falling over if his/her thighs are to be placed in some positions. The legs are Evo XL bad. And the bow.. what kind of bow has a shape like that? Completely impractical. Horrible colour scheme too - thre's no order to it, it's just a mish-mash of silver, trans dark green, dark red, burnt orange, brown, black, and grey. Umbra, wheel-less dark colour edition is what we have here. If that's the best set of the wave to most, then wow, this wave is utterly abysmal to most people. I guess BIONICLE's getting abandoned considering Star Wars will be more profitable, will get a higher budget. Goodbye BIONICLE, this seems to be your last year considering we're already getting the Mask of Control. Guess you sold really poorly in year 1, huh?

Really liking the return of the Vorox armour. That was always one of the better armour pieces from G1 IMO due to its more 'tribal' look, shame it was never really used much in G1 outside of Vorox and Skrall. Also, torsos look to be 2.0 torsos with the breakout chest addition point to me.

The loss of the gear functions is one of the worst things about this wave, unless they've made a balljointless version of the large torso. And if they're all using the SW torso, that means they're all going to be quite tall, right? Not sure I like the use of the SW torsos, mostly due to the belt thing they have. That will just look out of place on the Toa. And if they're printed, that'll reduce their reusability, too... they also have no connection points, unlike 2.0 torsos. Honestly, I would prefer to keep getting 2.0 and brain attack torsos. They're simple and they get the job done. Better than the SW torsos will, that's for sure. Though... I feel like it's about time we had a torso that was in-between the length of the large torso and the common medium torso.

The Clone Wars aren't part of the six (nine) SW movies and were part of the EU before Disney took SW over. Ergo, it's not canon because Disney declared the entire EU non-canon. Also, it may not be right away - it may be in the summer, as with Chima. Mostly because Chima's ending. Alternative waves makes sense, but I don't see them doing CW for the reason it's non-canon. I think it'll be more like 'Wave 1: first 6 films, Wave 2: TFA, Wave 3 Second TFA wave, Wave 4: prequel trilogy, Wave 5: original trilogy, Wave 6: VIII, continue on in the same pattern.

I wouldn't consider either forms of Metru Nui (city and city with giant spiderwebs) 'diverse' or 'multi-biome' locations, either. As for Voya Nui, weren't most of the locations on Voya Nui pretty much not used at all? Outside of promo vids and VNOG, I don't remember any characters going into any particularly icy or desert areas, or that much jungle... most of it seemed to take place around a bunch of rocks in an unspecified location, and then the last 25% of it took place again with rocks: lava edition!

C-3PO would be well suited to CCBS, wouldn't he? Then again, so would most droids. Also, considering the EU's pretty much non-canon and with TFA coming out december, I can't see them doing any (more?) clone wars CCBS sets. They'd be better off focusing on the more iconic characters/troopers instead of sets from a discontinued cash-grab. All of the Sith in the movies being sets is practically guaranteed, as are the protagonists and antagonists of TFA. They'll probably focus on TFA for a while, I don't see any non-TFA SW CCBS coming until 2017, and according to some rumours episode VIII is supposed to be coming out late in that year. So, it would seem that for non-sequel trilogy CCBS sets, they gotta make ones that count because LEGO'll have few opportunities to do them until the sequel trilogy is finished. Though, if SW CCBS proves successful, they could increase the wave size. That'll likely mean no more BIONICLE though, since at that point from the sounds of it BIONICLE will be the oldest (and thus stalest) CCBS line if that were to happen. And, going by media, SW CCBS is far more popular than BIONICLE could ever hope to be at this point, which will inevitably lead to SW CCBS cannibalising BIONICLE's sales. Then you introduce a third CCBS line into the equation next year, and it's really not looking good for BIONICLE.

Perhaps it's just me, but I always thought there was far too much stuff that was exclusive to the BIONICLE books in G1. Too much, if you ask me.

????????????? If Roboriders were to return, I'm going say it'd probably be technic-based on the core and use CCBS to cover up the gaps, possibly even with some slight system integration to make and some shells/attachments specially made to accommodate the wheels. They'd also be bigger, CCBS shells in their current form would make Roboriders rather wide if they were placed on the sides of a Roborider at their original average size.

That list is so obviously fake and has been circulating around for a while now i have to question why people are even believing it. We saw it in January. Of this year. No way it's real.

Are you kidding? Neither of those look cohesive. The first looks like a jumbled mess of shells, the other is also a jumbled mess. Neither looks at all good. See, this is where your argument falls apart: all of those MoCs are using a ton of CCBS parts... Which most people aren't going to have access to. On the smaller scale it's always going to be the same dull skeleton over and over and over and over again. Gearboxes won't change that. Most hilarious statement of the day. And calling CCBS a part of the technic system is like calling system a part of the technic system because studs can attack to beams. (By the way, the jet machine was surge's machine, not furno's machine.)

Pssst, that very statement is contradicted by the large majority of CCBS pieces - shells, shell add-ons, most bones, having no or few points of attachment for technic pins. They are most definitely not designed to work in tandem.

I can definitely understand where you're coming from. In fact, I'd have to agree with you. For a system meant to be there to allow the building of 'creatures and characters', CCBS feels really restrictive. It's much harder to be creative with CCBS than it is with G1 Bionicle pieces, and anyone who's tried to MoC with CCBS can attest to that - there's a reason all the big MoCs still use technic instead of CCBS. CCBS also creates god-awful messes when used in titans, and lack any coherency or stability to them. They just look plain awful. And even then CCBS titans so far have tended to be regular sets with longer bones and bigger shells - nothing really creative or innovative about that at all. Meanwhile G1 Bionicle had a ton of creative titans as long as we're talking of 2008 and before. Takanuva, Maxilos, Fenrakk, Brutaka, Sidorak, Roodaka, Krekka, Nidhika... these all have much more distinguishable silhouettes, with much more enjoyable builds. Can't really say the same for CCBS titans, which aren't really titans and more like glorified canister sets with a few gimmicks. CCBS sets, until the IFB, had been really samey for a long time and nobody seemed to even want to point that out. If you want a system to get better you have to criticise it, you can't just blindly praise it because then the flaws will remain. Then we got his year, where CCBS sets gained a gearbox.... but other than that, they are still really samey. The Gearbox is more or less the only thing that makes them stand out, and by next year it'll not be novel any more. To put it short? CCBS is restrictive and doesn't allow for creative thinking anywhere near as much as the old technic based system did. You even see a lot more 'clones' of sets with CCBS MoCs than you ever did with the technic-based system. CCBS is a disappointment that will get stale quicker than the technic system did. There is nothing creative about building what is essentially a human skeleton, slapping on some shells, and giving it weapons several years in a row. Minus IFB machines, but that basically swapped out torso armour (winter) or the head (summer) for a piloting thing. So even then it's not that creative. And as said before, every CCBS titan that actually uses CCBS in a somewhat creative is an utter mess. The Jet Machine, for example. Scorpio, too.

I'm pretty sure we don't have skulls underneath our skulls... That would be weird. What he's trying to say is that the Skulls (the sets) are wearing skulls (masks) on their skulls (the skull (the bone)) which is weird as normally you have faces or masks on skulls (the bone).

Wow. I kind of want that to become an official combiner because not only does it look amazing, it looks like it'd make a half decent titan set. It does say something about the colours in the skulls though, apart from the transparent purple/green/neon of basher/slicer/scorpio, there really isn't a variety of colours. Silver, Gunmetal, Trans-Blue, Trans-Orange... and... no, wait, that's about it. :/

Grievous is excellent. Obi-Wan is... unfortunate, to say the least. Human head, exposed limbs, unfortunate crotch area. On the bright side, lots of tan, at least one new shell, two new shell add-ons... that's a lot for one wave of CCBS sets. Beginning to think LEGO has plans for another wave of Star Wars CCBS if this wave is successful.

No. The IFB beasts don't count, but you are not being consistent with your argument. You said yourself they don't count a page back. If one small minifigure torso attachment counts as an overuse of silver, then nearly every Generation 1 BIONICLE set overused silver too by having silver weapons. You are coming across as very hostile and refusing to listen to others, especially in the tone of your text with phrases like 'Hey, guess what? Statement!' You know, your own view that metallics are overused is your opinion. Also, Onua is far less blatant with metallics than Gali is... all but one of his shells are black or purple. Only his piston attachments and claws/shoulders are metallics. Gali, in comparison, has only five azure shells and three transblue shells. If you looked at them, I cannot comprehend how you can come to the conclusion that Onua is more blatant whereas Gali isn't, considering her torso is ENTIRELY metallic and that. If anything, Gali is much more blatant with metallics, and for someone that says they are sick of metallics... that's kinda hypocritical. Like it was said a page back, I'm suspecting you're complaining for the sake of complaining, seeing as you are not being consistent and even accusing someone who pointed something out to you as a troll. For the record, disagreement with your opinions is not called trolling. That is something else entirely.