Capt.JohnPaul

Argh... As for the reloading time you fixed after you heard it doesn't take 5 hours to reload a cannon are you saying that you can fire more than once per turn?

Well, it will be confirmed. Mine is a crew of 18, 4 captains and another 3 marines, and the rest are sailors. On each side is 4 24 pounder cannons and 2 less caliber ones in the stern facing outward. Plus another 2 spaces at the front for bowchasers if I wanted to put them in.

I have a lot more measuring to do. Taz, can't wait to see your ship But your ship can't beat my sloop. Good luck to all admirals.

PM sent, and hurry Horry, get the speed done! No rush, take your time.

Good idea. And Horry, if each turn is 1 hour, it actually takes 5 hours to reload a 24 pounder cannon? Where should I post pictures of my ships?/When? (Just in case you didn't want to scroll down to my post 4 posts ago...

Well, the way Horry is planning it you wont see an actual technique, it is a birds I view so you wont see close up details. Even if you did, it is just a game.

The last post was 2 years ago... How does this bump help others or add to the discussion? If you really wanted to say this, create a new topic showing your custom figures.

Where should I post pictures of my ships?/When? I'll tell more details of it later.

Ok, so there is only 24 turns before we all get tired? Let's get the action started! Wonder who'll I face... got a gun brig and sloop of war. (moded BBB with now 5 cannons and 8 gun ship with two mounted blunderbusses and an overcrouded crew )

D&D! Hilarious! I like the 20 sided dice that decides if your captain dies. For the health, that makes sense. So I assume it is the same kind of thing for sails?? (Brigs can move x yards/meters in y seconds, and each turn represents z seconds/minutes)

I have a question. If our captains die, there is penalties, but how do we know when one dies? Also, do you/can you upload a template so we can make our own ship stats? Like this: And for the Vesta, how again did you come up with 1500 health? Thanks. Capt.JohnPaul EDIT: Also, how did you get the sail and beam reach things?

Oh shut up! I just copied and pasted in the order I wanted! Genaro, for 1, how about we make a rule where everyone is equally trained. Or redcoats do a bit more damage then bluecoats, and bluecoats reload faster then redcoats or something. And 2, I think Horry said the weather would be chosen before the battle and would remain the same, so I assume it will be the same dor weather and time of day. Besides, ships have lanterns to see you. Or we all wear eye-patches all day, and at night switch it to the other side, and then there is night vision!

Got it. Though we are not talking about ESPG, but rather we are talking about the Horry Game.

Good work! I love these towers people make. Is it possible to get photos from the inside? I think that will make it look EPIC. Though it is already epic already.

Are you getting the posts confused? When you say "rules" and "game" like that, it sounds like you are getting an idea that is a mixture of kurigan and Horry. Kurigan was the one that wanted a census taken and to compare ships based on certain rules or techniques. Horry is creating a game, there is no rules on technique, just rules on how much damage a certain cannon would do, or how far a ship could sail in 1 turn. There is no rule stated to be able to play, you must follow some building technique. This also would be fair because we wouldn't have a fleet against a smaller fleet, I would like to establish brackets were brigs go against brigs and so on. So we wouldn't have a first rate attack a 6th rate. Each battle is fair unless the players announce otherwise. ("How about we see what happens when my frigate attacks your frigate AND brig at the same time!")

I know! I know! Everyone put in some money! If the ships are on a solid color background, we could "green/what ever color background screen in the ocean like in Admiral Croissant's signature. And we could take different pictures of the ship to show what direction it's going.

Horry, choose number 1 definitely. With LDD from far away, (to see the entire vessel), you can't see the studs and details. While in real life, you can. I wouldn't do mini models because they make great ships like the Vesta seem not as powerful.(small tiny little thing compared to the actual ship in all its glory ) Also in LDD, somethings you can't do that ARE physically possible in real brick building, so maybe advanced techniques couldn't be displayed. And I wouldn't suggest a paint program, because then it doesn't appeal to the mind as a LEGO ship, just a graphical drawing. So my choices in order from to are (1) everyone taking part in the game has to make a photo of his/her ship in aerial view on white ground. the ship can be directly included in the batteground. (4) we use micro-scale LDD versions of our ships. I've created a quick template that everybody could use to re-create a small representation of his/her ship. (3) we use LDD-creations of the ships - effective but loads of work. (yes, lots of work ) (2) the ships are displayed in simple 2D - paint graphics that can be adjusted to resemble the ships accordingly. I hope you see my logic here. Capt.JohnPaul

This is what I was thinking, I just skimmed it real fast. And kurigan, if you can only muster a brig, we have brigs on brigs, or have a fleet of brigs vs a larger ship. Though I guess this battle scenario wasn't what you had in mind. Now, Horry, if you want it like the clone/star wars thing in the game section, perhaps contact dragonator?

Yes, history does show competition creates innovation, but there can hardly be innovation if there is a "system", as you say. And trust me, history shows "systems" cannot really be fair to everyone as this system would have to include all ships, so there is no system at all, I believe. If you are instead think that we should just create a topic that shows ships and let's us discuss the best techniques, how could a new member react when someone comments on his moc asking why not to use said technique. If people really wanted to gauge techniques or make a census, we already have an index for that. EDIT: Yes, we all compare, so why need to have a discussion about it?. And as Capt. Genaro said, if ships would battle eachother, that would be pretty cool. Ex: all ship-o-lines fight each other in brackets, and winners move on, and same for smaller ships, though then we would have to say one ship is the "champion", I don't have a problem with that, but declaring who wins on technique is to negative, we must put in a more tactical aspect. EDIT EDIT: kurigan, if you like the battle idea perhaps we could PM each other and overtime create a system in which we could decide would be fair to declare whose is the most fierce warship? Just PM and perhaps we could get into details, and if Genaro would join in, he might want to as he was the first to say the idea. Let us know.

So we vote on each others' ships to see whose is better because one ship has been built at water line and others are beyond that and goes below the water? But these two quotes contradict/go against each other, if we vote to see whose is more realistic, it will be the ones with the below-waterline hulled ships, so there is no need to vote. And why vote for fire power? Count the guns, 1,2,3,4... 16 cannons! Now for Joey's HMS Unicorn- 1,2,3...101... it will be no contest. And then we vote for techniques and "develop a registry" as you said. Wouldn't that discourage newer members? As far as I'm concerned, this forum isn't a contest, we don't comment on peoples MOCs saying, "pretty good design, though CGH's technique is a lot more mastered IMO..." Sorry, I don't think this will work.

I shaved off Joey's beard, and head! Because of my Tournament of Retribution Contest entry, don't know who gave it to me. Wears a morion all day! I have no clue who gave this to me, but whoever did, knows I wear an 18 gauge steel conquistador helmet all day.

You're such a brute, to murder that old coot... and We're knights of the round table, we dance when ever able, we do routines and gory scenes, that are too hot for cable!

My goodness! This is one of the best things I've seen! You did an excellent job with the kraken emerging from the water. Also, I must say good idea with the boat about to be turned on the side and the giant octopus tentacle sticking out from the water. Nicely done. Capt.JohnPaul

Yes, they are new!!! Actually, I don't know. These are fun, I just did show all so maybe they aren't, you just didn't bother to look for them. Capt.JohnPaul

Well, I've never seen black rock. Since pirates were active around the Caribbean and Mexico, a black volcano wouldn't work as that would be in the Pacific. So I would say gray walls, and maybe in the back of the cave, black to make it look dark in the cave.