Foremast Jack

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  1. Brilliant! what part are you using to mate them together?

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    This will leave a stud sticking out the back. I'd use it to mount 2555.jpg?0 on, and stick a cannon ram-rod or swab in, if you can't find a better use.. or a different technique all together.


  2. Matching that ship to the t would be quite a challenge. The round gun ports would be cool, but I am not aware of a inverted arch (unless they created one recently, I can't keep up with the new elements)

    I don't think they have an inverted arch small enough to work but that doesn't mean you can't invert one yourself. :wink:

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  3. (so is that part the "waist-deck"?)

    Now I will move the foremast closer to the bow, but that might require relocating the brig...

    The deck is the main-deck or weather deck... that open, central part is the waist.

    By "brig" I assume you're referring to the area used to secure prisoners? (Brig is a more modern, U.S. term, but I don't guess it really matters)


  4. I am going to use the mermaid from Brickbeard's ship as the figurehead. Matching that ship to the t would be quite a challenge. The round gun ports would be cool, but I am not aware of a inverted arch (unless they created one recently, I can't keep up with the new elements)

    My goal for this ship is to keep with a design that would place it in the peak pirate era (late 17th century). I am not going to do a well deck though... But I do want to do an ornate angular stern like that ship.

    Hopefully once it is done, it will be different than most other ships I have seen posted here and on the brickshelf. Though I would never claim 100% originality (I am sure someone else has thought of these concepts before I).

    Here is a slightly reworked bow, I redid the grey layer, but kept the overall curve I had. The only thing I don't like about this layout is the black curves that stick into the grey layer... But overall I like it better than the previous version. Now to fix the other side...

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    Whilst the bow doesn't look quite like what I'm used to in a LEGO ship, I think the direction you've progressed is a marked improvement.

    Again with the well deck!! :pir_bawling: Had a discussion not too long ago about this name. Check this thread if you're bored.


  5. I've always been a town builder, but as a New Year's resolution, I decided I wanted to expand my skills starting with ships and building from the sailing era. This is my first attempt at a frigate. It's about 90-95% complete. I still need to add a few tweaks to it and some small details.

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    A nice ship for your first, but there are some historical inaccuracies with her. The masts are all too close together. The foremast looks fine, but the mainmast should be about where the mizzen mast is, and the mizzen should be back by the quarterdeck. Speaking of the quarterdeck, it looks a little tall.


  6. PS: I can't find those flat hinges in LDD...

    Do a search for part number 73983 or "hinge plate"

    I am very loosely basing my design on this:

    http://www.modelships.de/Unicorn_II/Frigate-Unicorn_II.htm

    I am aiming (no pun intended) for 11 gun ports on each side of the gun deck...

    Oh okay. I didn't realize you were making something so old. Based on that model; I'd say, "Yes, a little forward wouldn't go amiss."

    I look forward to seeing how you make the figurehead. I can't imagine a unicorn to be very easy. :wink:


  7. Here ya go...

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    Im still working on the bow... But I think the foremast has to come forward more, but see what you think...

    Thanks for the picture. Now take this with a grain of salt, but based on a generalized plan of frigates it actually needs to come aft just a bit. Typically speaking the fore mast lay betwixt the second and third gunports. (Again be hesitant using the gun-ports as a measurement marker, as the number of guns can have an effect on this) Is there a particular ship you're basing yours on? Or at least, do you know how many guns you plan to afford to the gun-deck? This would help a lot.


  8. As for the spanker mast, it's the smaller mast aft of the mizzen, on which the spanker is mounted. The Constitution has one.

    You're going to have to show me a picture of what you're talking about. Every picture I see of her has only the three normal masts (Fore-, Main-, and Mizzen-) there's no fourth. The picture I have in my previous post shows the spanker and how it is mounted. If that's not clear or what you're referring to, I'll need a reference to something.


  9. How about the distance the foremast is from the bow, is it too far back? Looking at the references I am using, it is kinda hard to tell...

    I'd really like a picture side-on to really be able to say if the foremast is too far one way or the other.


  10. On that note, did British ships have spanker masts?

    From my knowledge there's no such thing as a "spanker mast".

    There is a "spanker." That being the fore-and-aft gaff-rigged sail from the Mizzen Mast (in the case of a frigate). The "spanker sail" attaches to the "spanker boom" (the lower beam) and "spanker gaff" (the upper beam) not "mast."

    I'll try to find a picture to upload in the case it's unclear here.

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    Got a picture for you:

    the_spanker.jpg

    P.S. The Spanker is sometimes called the Driver


  11. These you quoted were rather from the north,..Inca's were the ones from the south..and well.. I was kind of imagining some natives from the Amazon or something, or that was the impression they gave as a child, but disscusing with my brother about this some weeks ago, we end up believing they has some heavy influences from a far distant land ...not in America ..as you can see the bones on their hairs, the horned mask from king kahuka.. guess thats its name, and some other several details,..Inca's were more of a civilization than a tribe..

    That stone face from the forbidden cove, and the one from the enchanted Island sets always seemed to me as similar as the Moai statues from Pascua Island, and that's kind of near to the Inca's civilization, so ..another reason to kept me thinking they were from south america, but .. well.. they could be some kind of strange mix after all..

    I'm hesitant to get too in-depth with arguments here for I fear it takes us too far afield of the post's intent. However, I feel that while the Islanders are without a doubt a blend of several cultures all mentioned here, had they to be attached to a single one, more than any other it would unequivocally be that of the Hawaiian Islands at the time of their discovery. Even King Kahuka's name bears witness to this. (Kahuka being a town in Hawaii, about an 1.5 hour's drive from Honolulu.)


  12. My thought line goes like this, if you are trying to stay true to the Islanders brand as portrayed by LEGO, then don't contradict anything that they have officially released in a set, otherwise with so few sets, the rest is open to interpretation.

    For example, we know they used canoes so don't give them a solar powered motor boat.

    But having been in contact with pirates and the Imperial Armada these 20 years past, surely they could have something a bit more advanced than a canoe? :wink:


  13. I'm back on the Classic-pirate forums again after a busy period.

    This time I would like to do some Islanders MOCs but I dont have the right information at hand now.

    So I got some questions:

    -Did the Islanders keep Goats/Pigs ?

    -Did the Islanders live in Stone Huts ?

    -Did the Islanders have Horses ?

    -Are the Islanders mainly Cannibals or just tribesmen?

    -Did the Islanders Use row boats or those Canoes only?

    Maybe more questions will follow...

    Thanks in forward!

    Greetz Bjornu

    Well I don't know of any kind of official LEGO canon regarding them, but had I to guess I would say the answers are:

    No.

    No.

    No.

    Tribesmen.

    Canoes.

    However, seeing how they are constantly fighting with the pirates they would have come into contact and therefore had access to pigs, goats, rowboats, and horses. So I think they could justifiably be built into a scene.


  14. I'm not sure if it makes a bit difference, but I wouldn't consider HMS Surprise, ex-L'Utiné a typically British frigate.

    Ummm I don't know. I guess it depends on the time period you're talking. Late in the war she was definitely a little on the small size, but when she was built I think it's fair to call her typical. I think you are more referring to the fact that she was a French capture and therefore not even British? 'Tis true, but I don't think there's anything wrong with using her as a basis, when I don't have much information to really narrow down the choices of schematics.

    You are right though, I probably shouldn't have used the word "typical". :pir-tongue:


  15. I would like to see more of you, and from this technique of course!

    I have no doubt this is an innocent mistranslation coming from Nederlands into English, but "I would like to see more of you" says that you want to get together with Sebeus for a little one-on-one time, if you know what I mean. :wink: I think what you were going for here was, "I would like to see more from you." Off topic I know, but just wanted to point it out. I hate it when I get something wrong in a foreign language.


  16. Can someone suggest me a 12 or 18 pounder cannon design? I'm terrible at designing objects. Lego cannons, beside being 24 pounders, are expensive at BL and I only have 7…

    I would say have a look at the cannon index. I should think you could get a good idea of where to start if not find something that suits your needs precisely.


  17. I am not done with the headrails- it was more the overhead view that I was glad with. As for the posts, my frigate is a little narrower (19 studs at the widest point), so I only have two rows. Based on the planking technique I used, they turned out to be 4-6 studs apart.

    At this point, I've finished the structure from the bow to the edge of the quarterdeck. Once I finish the Wardroom, I'll work on the Great Cabin above, then I'll start work on the masts.

    Also, does 19 studs wide by 17 bricks high sound accurate? Or is she too narrow?

    I really don't think there's enough information here to rightly say.

    What I can offer you are the measurements for an atypical British frigate. (These dimensions are from the HMS Surprise.)

    Beam (that being the width): 32ft (10m)

    Height (of rig): 130ft (40m)

    Length (on deck): 135 ft (41m)

    Length (@ waterline): 114ft (35m)

    Now those are the dimensions in non-LEGO terms. If we take a bare-bones minifig to represent a standardized height (that height being 6ft (2m)) then when we lay him/her down on his/her back we see that he/she comes to just short of six studs in length (not factoring in any other height adding accoutrement, i.e. head-wear, epaulets, etc.). Therefore, I think it's safe to say that a scale of 1ft:1stud is a very firm basis to hold to.

    So with all that, I think the most accurate dimensions would be something like 30-32 studs across. That is quite a bit, and I think it should be noted that there are VERY few, if any, examples of people using a strict scale for building. LEGO is all about representation. So keep 19 studs for the beam. You just need to make sure the other dimensions are proportionally accurate. [i.e. 19 stud beam; 69 studs long (@ w/l); 78 studs high (the height here being to the mast tops); ~11 studs high (from the w/l to the weather deck). ]

    If you have 17 from keel to weather deck that sounds about right. I'd say stick with what you got, and she'll only get better. :thumbup:

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    edit: changed typical to atypical for fear of pain inflicted by flaky pastries! :pir_laugh2:


  18. Thanks!

    I found right the tutorial i needed

    Now just need to go on BL a bit and

    do you think I should put punctuation in my previous post?

    It is a requirement of Eurobrick Forums, but seeing how it was one post, borne out of ignorance, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just make sure everything's up to par from here on out, and I'm sure all will be well. :wink:


  19. Thank you, I hadn't actually thought about that, on a complete ship with the internal structure the gaps would certainly be less obvious. I want to build a complete ship but this will take much time before I can even start a ship itself, the stern windows for instant aren's so smoothly connected to the rest of the ship and I got to make an estimate on how many parts I'll need, it will take months :pir_wacko:

    Well, atleast I'll know what to do after my Flying Dutchman :pir-laugh:

    I was going to ask you to post a picture showing the exact way all those clips and things are assembled so I could maybe work on a full model in LDD, but then I realized that you're using the flex tubes as a major component. Those damn things are so annoying to manipulate in LDD, so I may not try it after all. :pir-angry: