Foremast Jack
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You mean to get the two to connect? That's not technically a bug. Those two are probably not allowed to connect in order to discourage illegal connections. When the two are connnected nothing can legally be placed on top of or beneath them, since the tops and bottoms of the bricks would not be lined up.
I thought that was an illegal connection.
I don't spend much time in the LDD forums, so forgive my ignorance at the use of the word "illegal" here, but I don't understand why it wouldn't be allowed. As far as them lining up, there's no difference in setting 2 1x1 bricks side by side.
I'm not really trying to press the point, since I feel this is getting off-topic for this thread. I've dealt with not being able to use them together this long, there's no reason I can't continue. I never knew it was purposefully causing the program to crash in past though.
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I see there was no bug fix for pairing
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I like all the technic pieces on the cathedral spires. Gives the illusion of intricate stone-work.
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I'm with Andy here. The great thing about LEGO is taking a set, finite number of pieces and using your imagination to come up with something that doesn't seem expected, but is still a recognizable representation. While I'm all about them making new molds I think Andy has it right here when he says, "I suspect some people are setting themselves up for disappointment though." I have no doubt there will be new molds, but the simple fact of the matter is, LEGO will not make new molds when they have another piece already in existence that gets the job done. As I was saying, that's what LEGO is all about.
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Ah, okay. I thought your shrouds were both the shrouds and backstays. Whilst I'm still inclined to say that whole mess of cordage should be moved aft, you know your vessel much better than I; so it is entirely at your discretion how she is made. She does look a lot better though with that fourth shroud/backstay on.
Well if you're looking for an English bird the first two that pop to mind are the Lark and Nightingale. Now are either of them fitting names for a ship? It's hard to say. But as you say, you may want to take that feathery conundrum off the prow and see what else may fly to mind.
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She looks pretty good. In your other thread about buying an official one you talk about her being in all her splendid glory. Yours isn't big enough yet to satisfy that.
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Scroll down there is a thing about the capstan on the middle gun deck. And a part about the posts surrounding it.
Posts being the vertical suports for the deck above.
Bart
I really don't think those metal posts support the deck. If they are removable it kind of defeats the purpose of them being there.
Those posts, they are the pillars supporting the deck ?
(sorry, can't find a proper translation).
Posts like that (as a say above I don't think they support the deck) I'm really not sure what they are used for or if they have a specific name.
Posts like these do support the above deck and they are called "stanchions".
I also thought they placed the bars around a mast when not in use.
A picture of a mast. Those are pikes to repel borders. Whilst it is possible that they could have stored around the mast I've only ever heard of them being stored on the gallows (for a frigate), like I say above, but I definitely don't know everything.
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Well I seriously doubt they would ever make the HMS Endeavour seeing how its size would demand a very high price-point. Also, I'm inclined to believe that since the HMS Dauntless gets more movie face-time (and is the exact same ship) that was LEGO to make one it would be the Dauntless. To answer your question: if one was made and had enough detail to make it worth the money, yes, I'd buy it.
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Looks great! Made me laugh cause this is what I first thought when I saw this picture.
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There is supposed to be a punch dot code in the exterior, but honestly it is much more effective and quick to just touch and feel. In the elf case, the bow or the shield are equally a dead-on indicator; no other figure in that series has anything even remotely similar (except arguably the fisherman, whose fishing rod can sometimes be confused with the bow, depending on the position). If you find a bow you're set with an elf. Most other figures have a piece that is easily distinguishable; in series 4 the geisha is very easy to spot (because of the slope that forms her dress) as is the Crazy scientist (because of the bottle).
All you have to do is study the complete series before heading to the store, this way you should be able to determine what you are holding whenever you feel a bag.
Yeah, okay I thought this was the case. Thanks.
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While she does look more impressive with all those gun ports, it's not the most historically accurate thing. Besides I really don't think you need to reduce the spacing to squeeze in more guns. I think once the full length of the gunwale is made you'll have enough. But I guess we can only wait and see.
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Hawk’s mast is a bit forward yes, but many of the examples I looked at for period cutters had a similar setup and in my case I need the deck space aft, much more than I need it forward.
I wasn't saying that her mast was too far forward. I was talking about the Main Channel. I'm including a picture so there's no confusion.
As for raking the mast, it defiantly makes a vessel look more sleek and from a real world perspective, will greatly improve your point of sail, but I’m trying to keep hawk’s construction simple and stable.
I can understand that. Was just pointed it out, in case it was accidentally over-looked.
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I absolutely love how you paired an inverted 2x2 round plate here to create perfectly squared capstan bar holes.
I see you're using spears as bars with the blade inserted, if you haven't already tried, would you see (at least for me) if the butt-end fits in that space?
I’m also not entirely sure of the name “Hawk” not for a merchant vessel any way. I felt I needed a name to post her. I went with the first thing that came to mind based on the figurehead I transferred from the old hull. I figured it was bad luck not to. What does everyone else think, does Hawk work, and if not, got any suggestions?
I think it works in one way but not in another. I think it's fitting cause hawks are swift flying birds. And I've no doubt that Hawk can really fly before the wind.
At the same time though, hawks are also predators, so if she's an unarmed merchantman, then I could see a problem. Ultimately, I don't think you need to change the name if you don't want. -
I have to rework the walls though... with this design, I am only going to get 7 cannons per side...
Well I don't think that's too bad really, seeing how your LEGO ship is only about 60% of what the scaled length should be (based on your model the Unicorn). Unfortunately you can't just add length because the length to width ratio will be off. You could see about building gun-ports in the bow quarters. That would add another two overall. Plus once you get aft a bit more, you may find room for two more.
Yeah, that is definatly on the task list... I don't like how short those look...
I'm sure the flag pieces are too short for your liking, but are you also referring to my suggestive brick-built covers? I did want to make them 3x3 (as opposed to 2x2) by didn't put a lot of time into the problem. I want to make sure you feel this is your ship.
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Good work reducing the height. Might I suggest you think about brick-built gun-port covers?
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This may seem a "noobish" question, but how can you tell which minifig is in the package? Do you simply squeeze, rub and feel for some defining shape, or is there some kind of indicator on the exterior?
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Yes, I meant to make it clear with my previous post that seeing how you're the captain of your ship you can make her lime green and hot-pink if you'd like. If you're happy with white and have enough pieces for it, then that's certainly what I would do.
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Yes, they were removed when not in use. (A fully shipped drumhead would take up nearly the full length of beam on deck.) When not in use they were stored on what is called the gallows. This was the cross-grated area around the hatchways in the waist of the ship. (Under the skid-beams: the place the ships various small boats were stored).
note: this is for a frigate or other "flush-decked" ship. Ships of the line were a bit different. The bars there being stored on the appropriate deck usually on hooks hanging from the over-head.)
I would also like to take this opportunity to shamelessly plug my capstan tutorial.
They didn't need to. There were no posts around the capstan. The capstan isn't located in the hold, so there's no posts around it.
I think you mistook his meaning here captain. By "post" he means "bar" not "stanchion" as I believe you take him to mean.
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I think I read and spoke a bit too hastily. Captain Blackbeard I think I actually misunderstood his question.
As Blackbeard pointed out, on a frigate (or other ship where the drumhead was on the main deck) there was nothing to obscure the capstan bars going round. On larger ships of the line, that immediate area was simply designed so that nothing was in the way at the height of the capstan bars.
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Duh, why didn't I think of that! Excellent idea... I might experiment and see how if I can't pull off round gun ports after all...
I'm glad to hear it. I really don't think it should be too difficult. When I was knocking up that little section in LDD I purposefully made it to match a section of gunwale from your pictures.
Went ahead and made a copy of one section of your gunwale using the technique I would use. This is an all but perfect blending of what you have and how I would adapt it. (this version is 2 plates taller than what you have). I leave its use entirely up to you.
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These are going to be so amazing! I simply cannot wait to see one of the minifigures completed.
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There was no real official criterion for colouring of the ship. It was solely at the discretion of the captain. The right honourable Horatio Lord Nelson used a distinctive yellow and black stripe, with the gunports being black (off-setting the yellow stripe that encompassed them). After the Battle of Trafalgar this pattern became the unofficial standard. Thus named the "Nelson Chequer." I would refer you to a photographic catalogue contained in the index for some fine pictures.
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Aye aye, sir!
edit: accidentaly quoted you.
I'm realizing I quote more from habit of clicking the "reply" button within the last post, as opposed to the general "Add reply" at the bottom of a page.
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The English name for 'snauwmast' is indeed spanker mast, it is a second mast directly behind the mizzen mast and is used to connect the Spanker sail to.
When I searched the Dutch I came across quit a view examples.
but searching for English examples I only came by this one;
This man is building a model of the USS Constellation and it uses a Spanker mast.
clearly visible on the picture when you click the link.
And on this page he is actually calling it a spanker mast, on the bottom part.
Here is a picture of the real constellation seen from behind.
I just noticed the previus post got edited while I was searching for information and making my post. And not for the first time Foremast Jack is right, snow mast it is. (but apparently spanker mast is used to)
Bart
I was a little disturbed by you being able to find some reference to "spanker mast" so I took another look around. It seems that on American Schooners (after about 1900) the aft most mast was referred to as the "spanker mast". What would normally be called the mizzen mast. The reason being that at this time schooners were being built with 4,5, and 6 masts (one even had 7
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I think they look great! With the ship I'm currently working on I was planning to use
. However, I think what you have here is far superior. I was somewhat disconcerted at the knowledge the lines would just be clumped together at the top or bottom of the bushing. So thanks for sharing your work and giving me a better idea. [However, looking at your pictures the shrouds/back-stays should be farther aft. You have them mounted to the 10 stud length of section there; I'd say move back to far rear of the section and you'll be golden.)I wanted to offer some thoughts on your first post about what isn't quite right about her overall look. What the Admiral said about the bowsprit and hull proportions are what first popped out to me as the biggest thing. Comparing them a second time I noticed that the mast in the reference photo is canted. So I think you need to angle the main mast to the aft like 10 degrees or so.
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Ah now I get what you mean, it's the beam you can see here right behind the mizzen.
It's called snauwmast in Dutch but I don't know the English name.
Well I think you don't need to add that one.
Trincomalee and Surprise didn't have one and as far as I know it wasn't normal for British frigates to have one in 1800.
It was quite common for (Dutch) brigs to have one, but I don't know any British frigate with this mast.
I still wasn't sure what I was looking for after following your link. However, since I have another name to go with, I took a look around. I finally know what you're talking about.
Yes, I've never seen let alone heard of this mast on a British frigate.
It does remind me of a reference from one of the Aubrey/Maturin novels where Jack rigs up a false mast (using a large piece of rope) on his ship as a ruse de guerre. However, I believe he was on a brig at the time. I'll have a look and see if I can't find it.
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Ahah! I found it!
In English it's called the "Horse" and holds the "Trysail." It was only native to the Snow (so far as I can tell). (The ship is named a Snow (or Snaw) because of this "mast" it would seem. The Dutch name seems to be much more indicative here, so I'm inclined to believe it was a dutch term originally that came over into English and defined the ship's type because of it's uniqueness.)
So the answer to your question again is: "No, a British frigate did not have a horse or snauwmast. It did have a spanker, but it was connected directly to the mizzen-mast."
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Yes, just finished reading that before I saw your post. I see the technical difference, but I don't personally find it to be an issue in real life. It's of little consequence really.
As far as the crash. You can place the two pieces together in "free space"
but when you try to move them as a pair the program crashes.