Foremast Jack

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  1. Posted

    Just so you know the "raised eye brow pieces" are not there to keep the ropes of the paint work but they are for the rain and water flowing down along the hull, they direct the water to the sides so it doesn't get in the gun ports.

    and I believe they are called "rain diverters"

    Bart

    Hmmm, very interesting. Never realized that. Thanks for the new knowledge! :pir-laugh:

  2. Posted

    I had two idea's

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    LXF

    Bart

    Thanks for the suggestions, Bart. The one on the left is one of the ideas I stumbled upon myself. The issue I'm having with everything I find is the gaps left between the hull and the prow. But I'll keep playing around with it.

  4. Posted

    Well for all those interested I found a way to center and mount a single stud wide prow to the pre-fab hulls. It's really nothing too elegant but works quite effectively. I'm just going to list the key pieces cause I think it's quite straight forward.

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    And the inverted slopes run upwards from there. The only issue I having with it now is the back-fill. The notched areas in the hull itself are very blocky now, and I don't quite like it. So unless another idea presents itself, I think I'm going to stick with a two wide. :pir-sceptic:

  5. Posted · Edited by Foremast Jack

    Aha, but the Flying Dutchman does not have ropes for the hatches, the hatches are incorporated in the hull and they slide down into the side of the ship.

    You can see it very will in Dead man's Chest when Jack Sparrow makes fun of Davy Jones ("I got a jar of dirt")and shortly after that the Dutchman opens fire at the Pearl :pir_laugh2:

    on the upper gun deck there are no gun hatches at all, you can see that on the first appearance of teh Flying Dutchman when it rises from the sea (the water flowing out).

    I did consider making the lower hatches but it was complicated, at one point I managed to design a structure that worked but it took so much space on the inside of the ship that I wasn't able to get the cannons through the ports.

    However, since you brought that up and I already wanted to rework the gunports I might just look into it again :pir-classic:

    Ah, yes. I remember now, at least I think I do. It has been some time since I've seen any of the films apart from the first. (I find the latter films to be far inferior due to their exclusions of naval terminology that was so prevalent in the first, but I digress...) Some reason I remember the gun-ports to have been great, gaping mouths through which the cannons protruded. Was this not the case?

    I wonder if not the vertical raising and lowering of the gun port covers could be achieved with the following pieces.

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    The joys of making them all fit together and look appealing I leave entirely to you. :wink:

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    Took a second look at the gun-ports. I guess I was focusing too much on the port through which the cannon passes and I missed the forest for the trees, as they say. I see the face and mouth now I was referring to previously. And I see why the revolvers are there now. Very nice work. :pir-classic:

    I am still very interested to see if you come up with something for the raising and lowering of the hatch covers.

  6. Posted · Edited by Foremast Jack

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    Yes, obviously that doesn't work so well. :pir-laugh: I would like to point out though that realistically speaking there should be gratings covering those hatchways. So it would be navigable deck space, but I'm not trying to press the matter so much.

    I agree with everyone else here that design using the telescopes as capstan bars looks rather catching. The colour may be a bit abrasive, but I think the design is very effective. It strikes me as very LEGO.

    The seaweed around the gun-ports is superb! The revolvers I'm not as thrilled about. Looking at it I immediately thought that if you could work the raised eyebrow looking pieces above the gun-ports used to keep the ropes off the paint-work(the name has slipped my mind!) then it would be awesome! I don't know if you have plans to incorporate working ropes to raise the gun hatch covers but I think it would look quite nice regardless.

    A picture of the part I'm talking about:

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  7. Posted

    Maybe you could do something with this:

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    If you put that at the bottom of the hull, you could invert your sloped cutwater structure and have it offset. You could fill in the gaps in the hull with bricks. It would be a bit blocky, though, I think.

    I've been building most of my ships from plans, and surprisingly they've all had prows less than one stud wide so far - that's why I've been using single studs.

    Hmmm. You may have something there. I'll have to play around with it. Thanks for the suggestion.

  8. Posted

    I've never seen it before indeed, as most of the ships are built on prefab hulls. I'd say to give it a shot, but you have to notice an one stud wide prow is only useful for tiny vessels. Prows were quite large to be able to withstand the waves.

    I'm not sure I agree with you here. Yes, they had to withstand the waves, but they also had to slice through the water. Proportionally speaking, I'm inclined to believe that a single-studded prow would be more accurate. However, I do not have physical access to the ship I'm modeling after, so I can't go and measure it to find out for sure.

    Does anyone have comparative measurements for the width of the prow and the width at the beam for a fairly large ship from the time period?

    I know cb4 used 1 stud wide prows. Here and here.

    But those are brick build hulls, If you are looking for a single stud prow on a prefab I wouldn't know.

    Bart

    Yes, I remember these and other brickbuilt hulls, but I was looking for use on the the pre-fab's.

    I really don't think it can be done. The hulls themselves are so intrinsically designed for having a 2-stud wide piece that I can't see a way around it. There's no way to get a jumper or something else to off-set the alignment, so a single stud would be centered on the ship.

    That being said, I've seen a lot of other things I could have swore were equally impossible, so I'm hoping someone out there knows of a way.

  9. Posted

    I think I've seen most every ship ever posted on these forums, but I can't ever recall seeing one using pre-fab hulls with a single stud prow. Since the hulls are designed for 2-wide pieces that's what everyone uses. I curious if anyone is aware of a way to taper it down to one.

  11. Posted

    If I'm not mistaken the bars of the capstan are taken out when not in use so I suppose it is allowed to take some space.

    I'll see if I can find the pieces and post a picture :pir-classic:

    Yes, they are indeed unshipped and stored when not in immediate use. But I wouldn't expect you to use the design if it doesn't maintain functionality apart from appearance. If you can get it to work, excellent. Otherwise don't worry yourself with it.

  12. Posted · Edited by Foremast Jack

    I think it is to big for on the ship.

    I thought about that. I know for certain that across the beam there's plenty of room to spare. Along the deck-line you may have me, but I think she'd serve. Coming out from the technic wheel those bars (with holder) are only 4 studs long. I can tell there'd be no problem with that forward hatch-way. The railing for the aft one could present a problem though. I can't really tell if pair of them are equidistant from the drumhead.

    It may not work. And now coming back from time to time to check this thread I glance over the original and it just seems right. Maybe "right" isn't the best term to use. I guess what it is, is that I'm growing accustomed to it. It seems like that's what supposed to be there, and anything else simply will not do. I still know in the logical part of my mind a change would be more functional, but it's beginning to feel wrong somehow. Thankfully, the choice is not mine. :pir-tongue:

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    I took another look at it, and I think you may be right after all Beckett. :pir-sad:

    The capstan bars are simply too long for the allotted space. I was going to say that there is a shorter version of the "lightsaber bar" for use, but that would eliminate the ability for two mini-figs to work it. Thus, negating the point of this suggestion. So, basically ignore all my previous posts. :pir-laugh:

  13. Posted

    A very nice ship indeed. I much prefer a historical look over that of the POTC one. Well done. I am, however, slightly concerned with your numbering of guns. Now I don't doubt that you're referring to her as a "40 gun frigate" because of the lore she's tied up with, but in point a fact a proper naval vessel of your description would only rate as a 36 gun fifth rate. (those guns used as chasers weren't included in the ship's gun count, on a vessel of this size) I'm not saying the title needs be changed, just wanted to make sure it is clear. Again, great ship!

    p.s. You may want to look to setting your brickshelf photos to "public" if you're going to link them for us to peruse. :wink:

  15. Posted

    I am wholeheartedly with Skipper here. I simply cannot wait for you to finish these! They are certain to be superb.

    Very inspiring work to say the least. I most definitely think I will soon be trying my hand at casting.

  16. Posted

    Again, I didn't intentionally make it big, it's how it was taken, and I'm a very lazy person, so don't point out the photograph, point out the MOC itself.

    I don't think I can. It's like you offer me a nice, big, tasty cake and as I take the first bite you punch me in the eye. You then ask me how it tastes, expecting me not to say something of the offense given.

    You know you're in the wrong posting such a large picture and yet you do it anyways. I could understand if you acted in ignorance, but knowing, still proceeding and then acting as though we are in the wrong for calling you out, you simply come off as a selfish and petulant child.

    I know I'm probably coming off a bit harsh, but from my experience lessons not learned in blood are soon forgot. So take this as you will.

    As for the MOC itself, it's nice. It could use MANY more rum bottles haphazardly strewn about the area. :pir-tongue:

  17. Posted · Edited by Foremast Jack

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    I don't won't you take this as anything other than a friendly suggestion, so please don't. But looking at the capstan I think it could be improved upon to give it a bit more functionality and playability. I'd like to offer my take on a possibility using many of the same parts you currently have.

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    Here is the LXF if you want a better look at it.

    Again, I really don't think there's anything wrong with what you have but I have an image from the film in my mind where the crew is working the capstan. There are 2 men a bar and the boatswain hovering over them with the whip. We're you to reproduce the scene I think you'd be hard-pressed to squeeze two minifigs to a bar with the current rendering.

  19. Posted

    Has anyone seen or built a double gun-deck version of the Imperial Flagship? I need some help getting this thing started. I want to make a 6th Rate version of this ship.

    Just wanted to point out that a sixth rate only had one gun deck. So, if you're looking to add another full length gun deck on top of what's there it wouldn't really be an accurate sixth rate.

    If you really want to make her historically accurate you might want to think about lengthening the ship to add more guns to the existing gun deck then add a weather deck on top of it.

    Typically a standard 6th rate would have between 10 and 12 guns a-side on a single deck. (you could add some "extra" long-guns as bow and stern chasers since most captains personally ordered such things)

  20. Posted

    I studied a little of that battle and I thought I remembered a painting where you see a group of British soldiers resist an assault against the French but you may be right and in this case, I'm confused :pir-sceptic: !

    The farmhouse was indeed garrisoned by the KGL. (They did receive a small reinforcement of Dutch troops though.)

    If I had to guess where your confusion about the British fighting in the farmhouse comes from I should think it's from the quite popular fictional series about the British soldier turned officer Richard Sharpe by Bernard Cornwell. One of the film adaptations "Sharpe's Waterloo" has the battle at La Haye Sainte. This scene has tons of redcoats and riflemen from the 95th holding the building against waves of French.

    Hope this helps clarify.

  21. Posted

    Hey! I'm not a very experienced ship builder but here is a

    PDF instructions of the Balc Pearl

    to help others see the problem. I agree, that rudder looks pretty pitifull, good luck!

    Wow! That's one sorry excuse for a rudder. Strikes me a pure laziness.

    As far as making something that looks better there's not much room to work with since you've only got a 2x2 space, but you could add something with a little more thickness to it, if that would suit you. Unfortunately I don't think there's much you can do working within the confines they provide (since most of the the rudder is supposed to be submerged). Unless you're looking to substantially change the stern, I think you're stuck. :pir-hmpf_bad:

  24. Posted

    I recently got the Black Pearl ship as a gift and was more than a little disappointed with the rudder. Has anyone managed to make a good rudder for this ship without having to change the entire design? Let me know, I'd like to change it.

    Could you maybe describe how it's designed for those of us that don't own the Pearl?