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Definitly day one buy for me. Not quite as elegant as someone's UCS moc but still better than original sandcrawler. Things to do:

lose the light saber. Luke never had it while Jawas were still alive.

add a single flame element for that red droid with bad motivator. They fit into the stud on top.

Find my chrome gold C-3PO and TC-14 and use it there for better look. TC-14 would be "spare parts."

Can it be motorized? Need instruction book to check for dead space that I can use. (not up on LEGO site yet)

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Definitly day one buy for me. Not quite as elegant as someone's UCS moc but still better than original sandcrawler. Things to do:

lose the light saber. Luke never had it while Jawas were still alive.

add a single flame element for that red droid with bad motivator. They fit into the stud on top.

Find my chrome gold C-3PO and TC-14 and use it there for better look. TC-14 would be "spare parts."

Can it be motorized? Need instruction book to check for dead space that I can use. (not up on LEGO site yet)

It certainly looks like the compartment that represents the 'engine room' could be large enough for a battery pack. I do know that someone was able to use power functions to motorize the old one, so I'm sure it could be done here, too.

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EUR 300 for what ????

for 4 Jawas? The crawler is very simple to rebuild with your own collection or BL.

i think you can leave round about 500 bricks, and the crawler look like the same.

as always, TLG puts many useless bricks in models :thumbdown:

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Dear TLG, would you please fire the designer that is responsible for the cheekbone-treatments?

On another note, i really like the Sandcrawler, the droids and the jawas. I hope i'll be able to buy the set one day.

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I actually like the cheekbones on some of the minifigures. I think most of the problem is they go too big on them and they just become distracting. If they could find a smaller size and lighter color than I think it would blend a bit better. With Luke I think what messes up the look is the excess chin lines, and the lines that are curved around his eyes on the neutral expression (They're missing on the smiling side, and it looks much better).

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feels like not UCS enough~ big room to improve

It's hard to see a kid just stroll into a shop and drop 299 on a LEGO set, but in saying that theres enough play features incorporated that suggests the SC is not exclusive to just AFOLs. Its not the UCS type of set we have been accustomed to in the past, it seems LEGO is moving this particular UCS out of that 'exclusive' club to appeal/cover more of the market. So we end up with a UCS/Playset hybrid.

Personally I would have been more than happy to pay 100 more for a no nonsense SC that looked more like the CUSSOO version with PF and just a couple of Jawas thrown in for novelty, but i can't speak for everyone, it is what it is.

This model is UCS only on the box.

The way the Sandcrawler is designed is very far from the UCS style.

It is just a big playset, nothing more.

It actually feels more like a playset or it doesn´t just feel IT is a playset. Not a bad one but really expensive for one.

As I said about the Lego Movie Sea cow set, TLG is bringing out really huge and expensive playsets this year. Does people actually have money to buy these?

I so hoped for a real UCS Slave I set :cry_sad:

Has there been any news about a UCS Slave I, there were rumors but were they nothing more?

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It actually feels more like a playset or it doesn´t just feel IT is a playset. Not a bad one but really expensive for one.

As I said about the Lego Movie Sea cow set, TLG is bringing out really huge and expensive playsets this year. Does people actually have money to buy these?

I so hoped for a real UCS Slave I set :cry_sad:

Has there been any news about a UCS Slave I, there were rumors but were they nothing more?

I think someone on here said we might be getting the Slave 1 in September. Don't hold me to that though.
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EUR 300 for what ????

for 4 Jawas? The crawler is very simple to rebuild with your own collection or BL.

i think you can leave round about 500 bricks, and the crawler look like the same.

as always, TLG puts many useless bricks in models :thumbdown:

What kind of collection do YOU have? I certainly don't have the quantities of most of those brown and tan parts, and I'm sure Bricklinking the parts for this set would cost well over 300 EUR. And you're not just paying for the parts—you're paying for the amazing design work that went into making this model look so good. I don't see any useless bricks in this, either—I've been sketching the set out on LDD and so far every part seems to be useful either for giving the right look or reinforcing the set so that it doesn't fall apart when you look at it, let alone move it. Honestly, your comment sounds like a lot of the ignorant comments I hear from non-FOLs about Lego sets; seeing the only value in the figs and insisting that you could make the rest yourself.

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She does appear in the scene though. If I recall correctly she yelled to Luke. So including her wouldn't have been that much of a stretch. No more of a stretch than giving Luke a lightsaber in this set.

LOL, yeah if you want to get real technical Luke shouldn't have a lightsaber. But I doubt TLG will ever put Luke in a set and not give him a saber.

Yeah, she did yell to Luke and she was in the scene, but I can see why TLG omitted her.

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LOL, yeah if you want to get real technical Luke shouldn't have a lightsaber. But I doubt TLG will ever put Luke in a set and not give him a saber.

Yeah, she did yell to Luke and she was in the scene, but I can see why TLG omitted her.

I agree, 2-3 lines doesn't warrant any sort of significance to include a mini-figure in the set. The scene would have taken the same course even if Aunt Beru was not in it.

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Lego sure thinks we are short of brown bricks & plates = Sail Barge, Ewok Village, Sandcrawler :classic:

It is a great set and playset, but I don't see myself spending 300€ on this, especially as the exclusives don't get a discount around here. For this money I could buy so many smaller sets on discount, and there are a few coming out this year. What I probably appreciate the most is the new packaging for this, no Darth Mauls or Yodas distracting from the fact that it is an OT set. But the fact that the scene from the movie is now set at sundown is pretty irritating for me. I mean, the model, the characters, the scene - everything is taken so accurately from the movie, and then it's not at broad daylight? This is so weird.

Also, it would have been nice to see a Krayt dragon skeleton in this set, but you sure can't have everything.

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What kind of collection do YOU have? I certainly don't have the quantities of most of those brown and tan parts, and I'm sure Bricklinking the parts for this set would cost well over 300 EUR. And you're not just paying for the parts—you're paying for the amazing design work that went into making this model look so good. I don't see any useless bricks in this, either—I've been sketching the set out on LDD and so far every part seems to be useful either for giving the right look or reinforcing the set so that it doesn't fall apart when you look at it, let alone move it. Honestly, your comment sounds like a lot of the ignorant comments I hear from non-FOLs about Lego sets; seeing the only value in the figs and insisting that you could make the rest yourself.

i have round about 150k-200k bricks, or even more? i don't know exactly :)

sry, but for me it's not an amazing set.

the model with open "doors" is horrible.

and yes, TLG put so many "useless" bricks in the models to push the part count. equal which set (e.g. more than 1000 bricks), in everyone TLG put small bricks to push.

e.g. 4 1x1 bricks side by side....why do they don't take a 1x4 brick? and so is it in every set since the last view years.....

so i will not spend EUR 300,- for a model that looks only from the outside "good".......just my 5 cents.....

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i have round about 150k-200k bricks, or even more? i don't know exactly :)

sry, but for me it's not an amazing set.

the model with open "doors" is horrible.

and yes, TLG put so many "useless" bricks in the models to push the part count. equal which set (e.g. more than 1000 bricks), in everyone TLG put small bricks to push.

e.g. 4 1x1 bricks side by side....why do they don't take a 1x4 brick? and so is it in every set since the last view years.....

so i will not spend EUR 300,- for a model that looks only from the outside "good".......just my 5 cents.....

There are a lot of reasons Lego would choose to put 4 1x1 bricks side by side instead of a 1x4 brick. It gives you more bricks to MOC with when you take the model apart. Perhaps there are some kind of stability issues with using a single 1x4 that using several 1x1's solve (or vice versa). At the very least, it might have been dictated to the designers that they have to use certain pieces due to production issues to keep costs down (they have a big surplus of 1x1 pieces in the needed color, or they have a shortage of 1x4's). I don't believe for a minute that they're doing this just to "pad the piece count."

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There are a lot of reasons Lego would choose to put 4 1x1 bricks side by side instead of a 1x4 brick. It gives you more bricks to MOC with when you take the model apart. Perhaps there are some kind of stability issues with using a single 1x4 that using several 1x1's solve (or vice versa). At the very least, it might have been dictated to the designers that they have to use certain pieces due to production issues to keep costs down (they have a big surplus of 1x1 pieces in the needed color, or they have a shortage of 1x4's). I don't believe for a minute that they're doing this just to "pad the piece count."

That you have more bricks to MOC is correct. But, if you buy a set for EUR 300, did you display it, or use it for parts?

i display all of my big sets, and don't buy them for mocing. Therefore you can get easyli cheaper sets, if you will stock up your brick count.

and yes, i think they put more little pieces in sets to push the brick count and they can rise the price up of the sets, because of sooooo many bricks......

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That you have more bricks to MOC is correct. But, if you buy a set for EUR 300, did you display it, or use it for parts?

i display all of my big sets, and don't buy them for mocing. Therefore you can get easyli cheaper sets, if you will stock up your brick count.

and yes, i think they put more little pieces in sets to push the brick count and they can rise the price up of the sets, because of sooooo many bricks......

If that is true why do they only put the piece count on the boxes in the u.s.? Piece count is a poor way to judge a set anyways. Weight would be better but even that has its flaws. Piece count says little about the actual pieces and the varying sizes, let alone costs for new molds and what not. And if indeed the instruction book is specially printed that would affect the price as well.

Products are priced on various factors, not just a statistic.

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and yo will pay such a high price for a specially printed instruction book? I don't care about it.

I only see new prints, but new molds?

my view, TLG is fleece us :)

I will not pay USD 417,- (EUR 300,00) for this set !!!

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Remember price reflects value not only cost. Obviously TLG thinks the value of their product is high and that most customers will be willing to pay the price. Cost is such a adminsrative concept and not always very easy to determine for reasons other posters have stated (e.g. overload of certain bricks i.e. sunk cost since they are already produced).

And in general I apparenlty agree with TLG's pricing since I always buy every AFOL set that they throw out there. Although I must admit this is one of the very few AFOL sets that I am not IMMEDIATELY buying on day 1. It took me 2 years to decide whether to buy the SSD because of my perception of its value (that didn't reflect 400 euros in my view). Luckily I was able to pick it up for 270 on sale. The B-Wing though I will likely never buy. The SC? Probably if on sale. I have enough money to spend if I wanted but unless on sale that model simply isn't worth it to me probably.

This all being said, every AFOL lego set I have built (I have them from 2007 onwards and almost every one) has alwasy turned out to be a joy to be build. And worth every penny. I VALUE my models very highly. And TLG knows it and are making lots of profit which is fine by me - let the market do its work.

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and yo will pay such a high price for a specially printed instruction book? I don't care about it.

I only see new prints, but new molds?

my view, TLG is fleece us :)

I will not pay USD 417,- (EUR 300,00) for this set !!!

Then don't buy it! The rest of us will enjoy this awesome set.

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and yo will pay such a high price for a specially printed instruction book? I don't care about it.

I only see new prints, but new molds?

my view, TLG is fleece us :)

I will not pay USD 417,- (EUR 300,00) for this set !!!

For a guy with "150K - 200K" LEGOs, you don't seem to like them very much.

;)

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Yes, but there's a lot of small parts, so that isn't necessarily a good indicator of value. It will be interesting to see the net weight of the set; I'd be very surprised if it's near to the Imperial Shuttle and that was only 2,500 parts and the same RRP.

I'm quite sure it's a better value then the Ewok Village. In the US, the Sandcrawler will retail for $50 more, but will have around 1,300 more pieces. I know some pieces are larger and smaller then others, but it's definitely a much bigger set then the Ewok Village. The only thing selling th Ewok Village IMO is the minifigs.

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i like my legos, but i buy the most of them with -20% sale. Original price is too high for the most of the sets.

UCS sets are never on sale in austria, so i don't have anyone.

it's a pity, but life goes on :)

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