My Australian Fifa World Cup Venues.

[Lord David]

Taken from a different forum Here , but I was wondering what you guys think of this... my pick of venues for a potential FIFA World Cup in Australia. (In say 2018 or 2022) :-)

Victoria:

Melbourne Cricket Ground 100,000 seats.

Docklands Stadium (Melbourne) 56,347 seats.

Kardinia Park (Geelong) Upgraded to at least 36,000 with 4,000 extra temporary seats.

New South Wales:

Stadium Australia (Sydney Olympic Stadium) 83,500 seats.

Marathon Stadium (Newcastle) Upgraded to 40,000 seats.

Queensland:

Lang Park (Brisbane) 52,500 seats.

Stockland Stadium (Townsville) Upgraded to 40,000 seats.

Robina Stadium (Gold Coast) Upgraded to 40,000 seats.

Western Australia:

Stadium WA (Perth) 70,000 seats.

South Australia:

Adelaide Oval Upgraded to 50,000 seats.

ACT:

Canberra Stadium Upgraded to 40,000 seats.

Tasmania:

York Park (Launceston) Upgraded to 30,000 with 10,000 extra temporary seats.

Northern Territory:

Mararra Stadium (Darwin) Upgraded to 30,000 with 10,000 extra temporary seats.

All of these venues would be all-seaters of course.

That's 13 venues right there, where each would host at least 2 group matches (of different groups) and host at least one round of 16 and or the quarter-finals and semis. Telstra Stadium (The one used for the Sydney Olympics) would host the First game, whilst the Melbourne Cricket Ground would host the Final.

Just thought it would be nice to see at least 1 venue from each of the capital cities take part, along with some other venues elsewhere. :-)

[Minifig Lecturer]

Some impressive stadia for sure but maybe in some cases the pitch sizes would be too big thus making the crowd far from the action, creating a crap athmosphere?

I dont think AUS would be good for hosting the world cup on a fans point of view howver. It's a nice place sure but too far from the nations who love football and I suspect most games would be only half full. Too expensive to get to also however the cheap wine is a positive.

[Lord David]

Some impressive stadia for sure but maybe in some cases the pitch sizes would be too big thus making the crowd far from the action, creating a crap athmosphere?

I dont think AUS would be good for hosting the world cup on a fans point of view howver. It's a nice place sure but too far from the nations who love football and I suspect most games would be only half full. Too expensive to get to also however the cheap wine is a positive.

Oh no not this argument again! ;-) Don't worry, if you look at other stadiums in the world (like those with permanent athletics tracks) oh and Est

[Minifig Lecturer]

This argument is serious now.

You know, virtually none of the stadia used in Germany had race tracks. The reason was because the Germans had the benefit of hosting the tournament following USA'94 and Italia '90.

The disaster of Italia '90 (and lesser extent USA94) was that all the redeveloped stadia (69,000 delle Alpi, 82,000 Olimpico, 55,000 San Nicola, 80,000 San Paolo etc) had athletic tracks built because they are not owned by the football clubs, but rather they are owned and funded by the city councils using taxpayers money (and therefore have to cater for everyone). Now in hindsight these are considered crap, there is no athmosphere (even if you are there, or watching on tv). As a result the attendences are dwindling which is a disaster for football in Italy.

For some, there are plans to demolish them and make new stands close to the pitch, a good idea, but a huge waste of money originally.

(Delle Alpi)

Germany and France learnt these lessons from Italy's cock-up and rebuilt stadia after thinking about what's best for football and not what is best for skinny idiots running around in ovals. FIFA encourage this approach.

[Lord David]

Ah but with regards to ovals, and redeveloping stadiums (upgrading them to FIFA seating requirements) there isn't any problem with the long term use of these stadiums and the consideration of the money spent upgrading them would be a waste.

My ideal World Cup venues would equally, or closely split the upgrades and venues to half rectangle and half oval, which would benefit the other football codes here along with soccer of course. (With the other codes having the upgrades they need)

As for atmosphere? There's no problem with that, considering that stadiums like the MCG have great atmosphere, which has been shown at previous FIFA sanctioned matches. (Other stadiums could have the same when upgraded) So basically, as long as the stadiums with oval configurations have adequate seating upgrades, you'd be expecting very good matches played there.

[Minifig Lecturer]

Who do you support, Melbourne Knights? 8-

[Lord David]

Melbourne Knights no longer exist, it's Melbourne Victory now, of the A-League! And they have a good chance of going to the final! :-)

[Mister Phes]

Tasmania:

York Park (Launceston) Upgraded to 30,000 with 10,000 extra temporary seats.

Haaa! Haaa! That's wishful thinking. Its called Aurora Stadium now anyways...

I dont think AUS would be good for hosting the world cup on a fans point of view howver. It's a nice place sure but too far from the nations who love football and I suspect most games would be only half full. Too expensive to get to also however the cheap wine is a positive.

Definitely not an ideal location to host a World Cup but on a good day 1 Euro dollar is almost worth 2 Australian dollars. And you don't want to be going anywhere near cheap wine if you respect your internal organs.

[Lord David]

Haaa! Haaa! That's wishful thinking. Its called Aurora Stadium now anyways...

Well considering that you would have to revert the name of the stadium back to it's "formal" name during the World Cup (No sponsor names on the stadium, unless an actual sponsor) and it sounds better than "FIFA World Cup stadium Launceston!"

Definitely not an ideal location to host a World Cup but on a good day 1 Euro dollar is almost worth 2 Australian dollars. And you don't want to be going anywhere near cheap wine if you respect your internal organs.

Cheap wine? The Europeans, especially the French would be coming here in droves! What does wine have to do with it anyways? As beer is commonly served at stadiums as an alcoholic drink as opposed to wine? (Except with the bars and restaurants within the stadium, most people just bring beer to their seats) ;-) :-D

[Lord David]

Look at this lovely picture of Olympiastadion, Berlin, during the 2006 Final

Oval stadiums are of no problem, so long as good spectator viewing is there and good use of large big screens (at least 2 Jumbotrons (or similar products) that are of a decent view for most spectators). :-)

[Mister Phes]

Well considering that you would have to revert the name of the stadium back to it's "formal" name during the World Cup (No sponsor names on the stadium, unless an actual sponsor) and it sounds better than "FIFA World Cup stadium Launceston!"

That is definitely a better name for York Park, however Aurora might have something to say about having their name dropped from the title. I assume there's some contractual agreement where Aurora has the right to have their name associated with York Park, so it may not be so easy to revert back to its "formal" name.

However, York Park is somewhat on the small side so spectator viewing wouldn't be so much a problem - accommodating everyone would be the challenge.

Cheap wine? The Europeans, especially the French would be coming here in droves! What does wine have to do with it anyways?

Cheap wine in Australia usually indicates the wine is poor quality and quite rancid to drink. Just like anywhere there are also the more expensive labels which are of a much higher quality however I'm not a wine connoisseur or an oenologist so I don't really know how this compares on an international level. Although I do know Australia is the world's 6th largest wine exporter and exports wine to France, Italy and Germany.

[Lord David]

That is definitely a better name for York Park, however Aurora might have something to say about having their name dropped from the title. I assume there's some contractual agreement where Aurora has the right to have their name associated with York Park, so it may not be so easy to revert back to its "formal" name. However, York Park is somewhat on the small side so spectator viewing wouldn't be so much a problem - accommodating everyone would be the challenge.

Not as hard as you think, what mostly happens is that the formal name is what it is on paper, signing is either temporarily removed or covered, advertisments are removed or covered, and new signs are replaced temporarily. And if the contractural naming rights are of some problem, either a higher power is sent in to solve the problem, the contract is extended, or a monetary compensation is enacted.

As for stadiums not meeting all-seater capacity of at least 40,000... major upgrades that look asthetically pleasing (as opposed to an arry of irregular looking stands) would be utilized, which is somewhat more cheaper then building a totally new stadium from scratch, not to mention that (though I've said it before) these rennovations and upgrades will benefit the main tenants (Cricket, AFL and NRL) That use these stadiums at a regular basis, for the long run.

Cheap wine in Australia usually indicates the wine is poor quality and quite rancid to drink. Just like anywhere there are also the more expensive labels which are of a much higher quality however I'm not a wine connoisseur or an oenologist so I don't really know how this compares on an international level. Although I do know Australia is the world's 6th largest wine exporter and exports wine to France, Italy and Germany.

Wine is pretty good here, even some of the cheaper varieties... *y* :-)