BaronSat Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 Ok, EBers... my second MOC, and first in the Ghost Town line Quote
Norro Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 I should clarify I think this is awful nice and I would be a hundread times less critical if it wasn't a ghost driven subtheme. This to me is like the Islanders of Pirates, yes it's lego ( ;-) ), yes it belongs to the theme, but no I don't buy them because I didn't like the direction it took the theme as a whole... God Bless, Nathan Quote
Vader Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 I love how simple and effective this moc is :-) it takes alot for me to post outside of the SW forum but i just couldnt sit by and not congratulate you on a fine set. Keep them coming :-) Quote
highlandcattle Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 I too adore this set. And I love the cactus. Not to keen on glow in the dark parts but they fit this set perfectly Quote
Brick Miner Posted October 4, 2006 Author Posted October 4, 2006 Nope, 6713, one of those awful races sets of the last few years. You haven't missed much:ahhh... i thought we were talking WW still. well, i can see why you have a problem with that set ;-) but why doesn it have the Western prefix of "67**". i guess i can't use that set number for one of my MOCs |-/ -------------------------------------------------- This is, hands down THE best attempt I've seen at recreating the style of a LEGO system set.thanks Flail !!!I own almost all of the western sets and these would fit perfectly among them.cool... and i take it your a classic-castle fan ??? it seems a lot of castle lovers are also fond of the western theme... hmmm...Oh, and I WANT that ghost miner fig. This may be my favorite fig since Hotep the mummy - no kidding.wow, that is really nice... (though i don't like the hotep fig, too many colors) i take this as a huge compliment.you know, my one major concern with picking minifigs heads is that i don't want them to be too iconic of the official minifig they are associated with... so in this case, Scarecrow. i would never use a Johnny Thunder head for this reason. im glad everyone is feeling the Miner though... means i made a good choice in this case. -------------------------------------------------- And I'm happy to see that you decided to sale some models and not just customized minifigs.oh, read this BaronSat...yes, let me reiterate that the 170 USD is not the MSRP (or in this case "the Fan Suggested Retail Price" :-D ). if this set were released officially it would be around the price of Islander's Enchanted Island (412 pieces).what i did after finishing the MOC was inventory the pieces... then do a rough estimate of NEW pieces from BrickLink... that way if anyone really wanted to build this model themselves they would know about how much it would cost. plus its great for me, cause i know how much it cost me !!! i calculate this information anyway, so i thought i would share it, since i had it. BTW, i have no intention of selling my MOCs myself... i'll leave that up to member BaronSat ;-) so, actualy no BaronSat... im not selling these at 170 USD. that is how much the parts would cost me from BL !!! so, in a realistic retail world, a seller wants to get a 600% markup. well, you do the math... i would never sell one of these at that price :-D I red all I can but didn't found if you mentioned if you will produce instructions for that model. So will you?i did create building instructions for GUNSLIGNERS SALOON 6758. but the problem with HAUNTED PASS is that a lot of the pieces i used are not in the inventory of pieces in Ldraw. im currently browesing the "unofficial" pieces to see if i can find the missing elements.so, we'll see... i'd love to if possible. -------------------------------------------------- I love how simple and effective this moc is :-) it takes alot for me to post outside of the SW forum but i just couldnt sit by and not congratulate you on a fine set.i thought something was up when i saw "vadar" had posted in the History Forum :-D thanks for leaving a comment behind on your trip out of History and Adventure :-D - BrickMiner Quote
xwingyoda Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 G how did I ever missed that second BM MOC ? Oh well, I just saw it now so problem solved :-P Truly fantastic second instalment in the "Ghost Town" series 8- Quote
Brick Miner Posted October 4, 2006 Author Posted October 4, 2006 gylman notice some people on the BrickLink message boards are talking about Ghost Town... thought that was cool :-$ this gives me some motivation to continue working in the sub-theme... maybe i WILL do the water tower next... Your work has been noticed!!http://www.bricklink.com/message.asp?ID=166960 Cheers. -------------------------------------------------- this reminds me... if any of you have extra time, go to my MOCpages.com page and rate/review (an honest one) this MOC !!! just think of it as your little payment to me, for designing the skins on EB that you enjoy so much :-D ;-) i mean, it's the least you can do, right >:-) :-D :-D :-D thanks for the support - BrickMiner Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted October 5, 2006 Governor Posted October 5, 2006 I'm in class at the moment so I can't really go into detail, however I feel the urge to briefly write something anyway... Interesting concept! Quote
Brick Miner Posted October 5, 2006 Author Posted October 5, 2006 ok back to you Grrr (thre are so many responses to be written, such little time and space in one thread)... One of the main things I like about western is that you can simply line all the sets up in a row, and it doesn't look silly, everything is the same scale (unlike the current generation town vehicles compared to say those of the 80's); well colour-coordinated - nothing looks out of place (something you can see a bit with early space sets before they had consistent colour schemes, in the early 80's), but no mono-tones either; everything is the same epoch (in historical terms); and there is none of what I would describe as clashing pieces (more on that in a bit). Best of all, there is no duplicity. If I was to line up all my town sets, I would have a town with a multitude of fire and police stations, but almost no shops, and comparatively few houses.yes, that is why i love the theme so much... it is very clean and complete. simple, yet visual stimulating. i am a big fan of these things in regards to art in general... i will always preach "tell as much as you can with as little as you need"... even in music (i like minimal techno :-D )however, LEGO didn't quite finish out the theme... but because it was so well synced (in all the things you stated above) it makes it really fun to fill the gaps. the rules are lined out (as the building style was consistant), all you need to do is add creativity ;-) that is what im trying to do with my MOCs... ---------------------------------------------------- I'm in class at the moment so I can't really go into detail, however I feel the urge to briefly write something anyway...Interesting concept! thanks phes... can i expect more insight from you ???- BrickMiner Quote
john cleese Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 the reason i wanted to know how much it would cost for fake box art is because i intend to make that time twisters moc sometime in the near future. Of course time twisters is one of the most hated themes so it will probably cost me a fair amount (and by fair i mean unfairly high). In the design i would want silouettes of the lands that correspond with some of the themes, preferably some of the ones post-timetwisters. The moc itself wont be done for a while, but i asked you now out of curiosity. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted October 5, 2006 Governor Posted October 5, 2006 thanks phes... can i expect more insight from you ??? Yes you can, but I'm about to have a siesta so not right now. However, I am curious about the torso... Where did the purple and orange torsos originate? I don't mean the design, I mean the actual LEGO piece. Quote
Brick Miner Posted October 5, 2006 Author Posted October 5, 2006 the orange one came from here... http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=trgib...&itemID=5980697 and the purple one here... http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=kaylinda&itemID=5037426 both are rather expensive... especially the orange one. i only use blank torsos,.. and would never put a sticker on an already decorate minifig... otherwise i could have used this one much cheaper... http://www.bricklink.com/store.asp?p=Melan...&itemID=1628935 hey a siesta sounds fun !!! - BrickMiner Quote
john cleese Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 BM you didnt answer my question. And come to think of it it might have been phes who said he would do graphics work in exchange for money. Were you joking before, or are you really considering this? Quote
Brick Miner Posted October 5, 2006 Author Posted October 5, 2006 again, im having trouble keeping up :'-( there seem to be about 4-5 different conversations going on in this thread... so my appologies about the late reply... but to answer your second question... it might have been Phes. cause i don't rememer any conversation about creating digital backgrounds for monetary compensation. maybe Phes can clear this up when he returns to the thread ;-) however, that doesn't mean i wouldn't accept the offer. hmmm... a Time Twisters background. so it would look somthing like this... - BrickMiner Quote
john cleese Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 yes basically it would look like that, but there might also be sillouettes of pyramids for adventurers, and maybe a viking ship and Some sort of arctic theme sillouette. Still Miner you havent given me a basic price, of course im not going to speculate what it might be out loud. Quote
JINZONINGEN73 Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 That Ghost Town is pretty amazing. It's the kind of set you'd want to buy more stuff to expand onto. If it were real, and also had the 2 baseplates, I'd probably snag 3 or 4 of them, just to make a complete street. Then I'd move on to having a 9V steam engine that ran throgh town behind the buildings. Very inspiring stuff... both in box art and set design, more than almost all of Lego's "real" sets. You put emotion into it that's not always there, but should be. I agree, you should really be on Lego's paid crew. With a little more money further down the road, I'm definitely going to return to this topic some time in the future and make my own Ghost Town set. (And mind you, it wouldn't have been anywherre near as cool had it just been another Wild West thing, the ghost aspect made it awesome). And thanks for naming each picture so that they stay together when all are saved to hard drive. ; ) Quote
Brick Miner Posted October 5, 2006 Author Posted October 5, 2006 Still Miner you havent given me a basic price, of course im not going to speculate what it might be out loud.:-D ya... i know. quoting a price isn't somthing to be taken lightly or said abruptly without thought... because, if i named a price and we each had a different vision of the finish product, then we wouldn't be happy with each other. and i definitely don't want that... we would really need an outline ;-) ok, so the sillouettes, ocean, and forest would be easy... the starred sky could be tricky, and the portal w/ town would be very difficult.... would the city in the BG have to look EXACTLY the same... or could the skyline look like it does in the Trains and Town Forum ??? 2D ??? i'll tell you this... if this were a WW or castle sets, or even a town... this would be a lot easier :-P i'll PM you a quote ;-) -------------------------------------------------- That Ghost Town is pretty amazing. It's the kind of set you'd want to buy more stuff to expand onto.If it were real, and also had the 2 baseplates, I'd probably snag 3 or 4 of them, just to make a complete street. Then I'd move on to having a 9V steam engine that ran throgh town behind the buildings. 8- Quote
JINZONINGEN73 Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 that is so cool i got you inspired. i'd love to see what you did with the theme...but i didn't even know you did SYSTEM ??? laugh_new.gif X-O http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=126042 Lol... actually, I'm getting into it more and more. It's a money reason that I don't have my Lego room with 9V trains, towns and monorails. Since I have a few years of (tons) of Technic/Bionicle parts, I can make action figure mecha galore for free. My day will come. One inheritance later, and I'll have my own System heaven for the cats to stomp through and destroy. X-D maybe even had some Indians vs. the supernatual powers... cause, as the Indians are now, there is no conflict... ... Not only a way to get kids more interested (scary = fun), but also a ragingly good excuse for Lego to make more glow in the dark parts (also fun for kids). *sigh* I guess that's what mocing is for though. Doing what they should have already done. ;-) Quote
Norro Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 Not only a way to get kids more interested (scary = fun) {SNIP} This is exactly what bothers me about this sub theme, it leaves the traditional Lego values and departs down the fright knights path.... and nobody wants that ;-) God Bless, Nathan Quote
Brick Miner Posted October 5, 2006 Author Posted October 5, 2006 My day will come. One inheritance later, and I'll have my own System heaven for the cats to stomp through and destroy. X-Dinheritance ??? are somebody's LEGOs on their will for you ???Not only a way to get kids more interested (scary = fun), but also a ragingly good excuse for Lego to make more glow in the dark parts (also fun for kids).good point. i really wanted to make sure Ghost Town was "fun". scary can be too scary, at least from the view point of parent... and because i was looking to keep this in the vein of a kids toy, fun was essential.the cactus monster was my biggest attempt in that department. - BrickMiner Quote
Kahgarak Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 BRILLIANT! I'm sure that you would do great as a Lego set designer! *sweet* I love the creaking floor and the moving stairs mechanisms. Quote
oo7 Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 Arriving a little late to this thread, The figs are all great, but I dont like Mexican boy's lantern, it looks to tall and out of proportion. But I think that there is a little too much playabiliy here which sacrifices a good design, I like the stairs and the bed in the hotel but the strange looking floor of the merchantile that moves I think might be a little too much. And did I understand this right, there is a second Ghost Rider head in a barrel in the Mercantile? And how did you achieve those windows, is it a standard window with a custom sticker on it? I think the cactus monster is pretty nifty, the overall town has a great atmosphere, and the CGI is great as always, but I think the botom floor looks a little too empty. Nice Signs too, but if Legoredo and Brick Miners Gulch are both further down one side of the road what is down the other? *skull* Overall it looks like a nice set, I would certainly buy it. So where did you get that last new ghost shroud anyway? And are you going to make more in this series? Quote
JINZONINGEN73 Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 This is exactly what bothers me about this sub theme, it leaves the traditional Lego values and departs down the fright knights path.... and nobody wants that ;-) God Bless, Nathan I wasn't present in Lego for Fright Knights. ::looks online at Fright Knights sets:: Ok. Yeah, the theme seemed just silly. Knights? Wizards? I dunno. The sets (that I looked at) seem ill-concieved. A Wild West ghost town is a far more publicly-understood concept. I think both themes share one thing though... any more than 3 (good) sets for each, and you've likely already exhausted it's credibility. Of course also in both cases, that's dependent on how well you represent it to begin with. Quote
Brick Miner Posted October 6, 2006 Author Posted October 6, 2006 I think both themes share one thing though... any more than 3 (good) sets for each, and you've likely already exhausted it's credibility. Of course also in both cases, that's dependent on how well you represent it to begin with.i completely agree with this... i only see potential for 4-5 sets. Ghost Town would have made a good quick sub-theme, that only lasted one year. probably after LEGO had fully exhaused the official Wild West line. it would have made a good exit year for the Wild West... similar to Fright Knights (which ended CC).i know that me and snefore talked about this quite extensively here. basically, we had discussed that, once all the possiblites of a theme are realized, the only place to go is fantasy. the Wild West theme was unique (as Grrr pointed out) that LEGO didn't repeat theme concepts. no two sheriff offices, or two banks, or two forts... i want to keep this idea alive in my MOCs... so (for example) you will never see me do another gold mine... that is what lead me to the Ghost Town sub-theme... i have come up with four really unique ideas that i would like to explore with this theme... 6714: Creepy Creature Camp, 44 pieces 6738: Water Tower (working title), 148 pieces 6749: Precarious Bridge, 232 pieces 6776: Ghost Town Quote
Athos Posted October 6, 2006 Posted October 6, 2006 I just looked through your pictures again, and had to say how much it makes me miss the good old days... X-D Steve Quote
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