Cyclonis Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Well, I was wondering this. I'm sure many other people wonder it aswell, and maybe this has been posted before, if so, sorry. If not, then i need to clear the answer up for me (and maybe for others). So...Is it okay to have Pirates (meaning 'Ahoy!') intersect with Castle (meaning 'Let us ride to Camelot!') ?? -Cyclonis. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted February 6, 2006 Governor Posted February 6, 2006 No that's a shocking idea which shouldn't ever be discussed!!! :-D Seriously, when you're building MOCs or collecting LEGO sets then its entirely upto you which themes you combine. Besides, who cares if nobody else likes it, the point is you're having fun doing and that's the most important thing. Evil Willy has combined Pirate and Castle in one of this earlier threads. I can't remember what that is called now, so Evil Willy could you help out here... Name of thread and perhaps even a convenient link to it? Quote
snefroe Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 i don't see a problem with combining both. After all, the lego company designed a set that combined castle and town many years back... i'm refering to aredhel's and apo's pride and joy, set 1592 i think you can use the parts of castle to build fortesses, or pirate ship hulls to build classic castle ships, but i don't think that people do that very often, because there's a gap in time between both themes. so sure, there's a compatibility between both, but it doesn't go very far... and i also don't think that TLG used many classic castle parts in pirates... Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted February 6, 2006 Governor Posted February 6, 2006 Lets see Count Sneffy... What Classic Castle part were used in Pirate sets... I'm not sure if arches, slopes, 5 x high bricks, latice, etc count . because they weren't exclusive to the caslte theme... But definitely castle walls... The grey and black ones... I don't recall the castle theme having any white or yellow castle walls... Lances... Treasure chests... Birds - although they were red and decorated in pirates... Treasure chests... Barrels... Spears... Wooden doors... Cell doors... The green plants with the cricular leaves... Ladders... There's probably heaps more but I think I've done enough for now... Quote
Evil Willy Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Yes I have crossed castle with Pirates like Phes pointed out...Its not much and was made in probabley 2 hours or so. Basically a heap of black bricks put together, but heh its cool, I guess they are the ruins for an old castle....Maybe its burnt haha I dont know, here you go! http://www.mocpages.com/moc.php/12183 Quote
snefroe Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Lets see Count Sneffy... What Classic Castle part were used in Pirate sets...I'm not sure if arches, slopes, 5 x high bricks, latice, etc count . because they weren't exclusive to the caslte theme... But definitely castle walls... The grey and black ones... I don't recall the castle theme having any white or yellow castle walls... Lances... Treasure chests... Birds - although they were red and decorated in pirates... Treasure chests... Barrels... Spears... Wooden doors... Cell doors... The green plants with the cricular leaves... Ladders... There's probably heaps more but I think I've done enough for now... the bird, as a part, is pirate, and castle only has it in just a few colors. in any case, most people wouldn't associate birds with castle as a "castle piece". Sure, the treasure chest, but that's hardly a good example, you don't build anything with that, it's basically a small detail... same with the barrels, you normally don't use them to build mocs, they're more like accesories , besides, a quick review of the sets indicate it's not a real "castle" part, it appeared in pirates more or less at the same time as in caste and just as often. ladders are part of city/town; not sure what wooden doors you're refering to but the clasic wooden doors used in yellow castle came from lego basic... i wouldn't really credit plants to any theme, you can use them for whatever theme you want... for the spears i guess you're refeing to the natives in the pirate theme, sure, but how many people are using those in pirate mocs? Many of the larger pieces of castles havent been used by pirates. Perhaps you should check the inventory of the last several castles... then we'll go to torsos, helmets, swords, flags, horses, sadles,... Quote
Sting Posted February 6, 2006 Posted February 6, 2006 Yes! You can intersect them! It seems easier for the PIRATE Fan to use Castle elements - paticularily for buildings - I have wanted to make a Fortress out of grey Castle Pieces... Hideouts with Black Castle pieces... Many of the non-armoured Castle Bodies can be used for Civilians in the pirate time-line - that also works with pirate-bodies in the Castle timeline! Go for it! There just can't be an armoured Knight fighting an Musket wielding Imperial Guard! Unless you want it to of course! Quote
Hobbes Posted February 7, 2006 Posted February 7, 2006 If you mean bricks, of course you can. You can use any LEGO brick in any set. It's up to you, isn't it? "Just imagine!" If you mean the two themes in general, well, my Pirates "intersect" with my Town/Train. And in my earlier days when I only had Castle and Town/Train they intersected, too. So, there. Whether that's "appropriate" or not shouldn't be of any concern I'd say, from a serious MOCer/AFOL point of view it's probably some sort of blasphemy. From an average LEGO fan's point of view it shouldn't matter as long as they like the result. But that's just my $0.02... Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted February 11, 2006 Governor Posted February 11, 2006 It seems easier for the PIRATE Fan to use Castle elements - paticularily for buildings - I have wanted to make a Fortress out of grey Castle Pieces... Hideouts with Black Castle pieces... Many of the non-armoured Castle Bodies can be used for Civilians in the pirate time-line - that also works with pirate-bodies in the Castle timeline! I agree with Mr String. 90% of most Castle sets are useful for building pirate sets, its just a matter of removing the mini-figures and flags and the rest is quite useful. Quote
ApophisV Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 Even if you make Professor Lupin having a crusade together with a Scala doll for invading Vladek's Dark Trainstation (Vladek, who kidnapped Bob the Builder's Duplo friends!!!) it would be perfectly okay! Always remember: Lego is about fun, creativity and imagination! Even if there are lots of people out there that would go on their own crusade before accepting a pirate fig in a castle MOC or a Star Wars model in their Space forums, its NOT up to THEM to judge what YOU enjoy! Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 I think the answer to your question is DEFINATELY, you can do anything you like. I'm not sure about the historical accuracy of combining the two (depending on the scene), but I use to use castle buildings with pirate ships all the time. They look good together, esp. when you think of a port castle being blown away by a pirate ship. I've posted this before, but here's an old display of castle and pirates: Quote
The Hordesman Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 As long as you keep the blue & redcoat out of the picture (atleast the high hats, the uniforms are ok), it will work nice together as a reinassance or late medieval theme. For reinassance, The armada figs can just aswell be kept together. I made a Conquistador-like mob called the Morion Brotherhood, all wearing pirate and armada clothes and of course morion helmets. ...Of course, my story is freely moving from the dark age to reinassance and at sometimes its inspired by greek or roman history, etc. Its possible, its fantasy. But watch out for overuse of imperial infantry hats (the high ones), overuse of these makes it looks too much like the industrial era. Quote
Norro Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 I think it is easier to use castle parts/printed piecesfigs etc in pirates than vice-versa... that said you will spot many pirate figs in my castle MOCs (without futuristic weapons of course). God Bless, Nathan Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted March 27, 2006 Governor Posted March 27, 2006 So...Is it okay to have Pirates (meaning 'Ahoy!') intersect with Castle (meaning 'Let us ride to Camelot!') ??-Cyclonis. A thought which has recently occurred is it depends upon which area you're depicting with Castle. If its the Middle Ages then certain elements of Pirates would be too futuristic, but if its more recent then the Imperial Guards and cannons would suit, like The Hordesman said. Mr Cyclonis have you designed anything combining these two themes yet? Quote
El Bucanero Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Answer: yes, if it comes to the buildings: castles work well as forts, and some sets with the tudor style wall may be useful for Inns. But if you want to have the minifigs with pirates, it would be no, someone earlier mentioned that you can't let a sword fighting knight fight a musket wielding Imperial gaurd!(unless you want to) But from the other side, there were pirates in the castle era, offcourse not with muskets, cutlasses and cannons, but with a broadsword or a bow. However, using a pirate minifig wouldn't work very wel, to futuristic, wolfpack guys on a ship would surely do the job. Back to the buildings, I made a house for my pirate, but if you kick out the pirate en throw some knights stuff in, It could be used for the castle theme. With some adjustments, they could intersect very well Mr Tiber Quote
oo7 Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 I don't have any pirates so all my "pirate" mocs are castle mocs! (and vikings) Quote
rupi Posted September 13, 2006 Posted September 13, 2006 Hey it's lego. Combining things it's what you are supposed to do... as long as you like it. By the way pirates and castle are my favourite themes so combinig both I think it's great. Quote
Landlubber Posted September 14, 2006 Posted September 14, 2006 Castle parts are brilliant for pirates. As far as I know there were never any horses in pirates, but they need land transport as well as the ships. Forts work well in grey as well and those yellow and red tudor wall peices from the castle series are good for making small buildings in pirate towns. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted September 14, 2006 Governor Posted September 14, 2006 I could have swore that fort was using grey BURPs not so long ago. Having I been in LaLa Land lately or did they get substituted with the brown BURPs we see in the picture? Quote
oo7 Posted September 15, 2006 Posted September 15, 2006 I guess you wereing in "LaLa Land" wherever that is. Quote
Captain Roger Posted September 16, 2006 Posted September 16, 2006 I think people of middle age don't worl with pirates(or imperials) who uses cannons and guns. Is an anachronism Quote
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