LEGO Star Wars 2025 Set Discussion - READ FIRST POST!!!

[Max_Lego]

1 minute ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Only way Star Wars will get better is if there's a purge and everyone in Lucasfilm is fired and bring back the people that were around when George was there, they were fired and replaced with these Disney activists, if Kathleen ever leaves, which I doubt lol, it won't matter, her followers are still there, Star Wars has been rock bottom since TLJ but I stayed hanging on to false hope, hoping for the best, the Acolyte is what killed it forever for me

This is not going to work. I think it is naive to believe that those people are going to do anything better than those Disney guys. Original creators of a successful franchise are eager to massacre their own boy (George Lucas and his Prequels; SW aside, we have the DCAU as a sad example of Dini (Batman: the adventures continue) and Timm (the latest being B:CC) doing exactly the same things as Kathleen Kennedy with SW). 

Quality content is completely impossible nowadays 

[Lego Nostalgia]

anyway do you guys think Lego will drop the SW IP ? the brand isn't really popular nowadays, it's just slop now, I always see the shelves fully stocked 

Just now, Max_Lego said:

This is not going to work. I think it is naive to believe that those people are going to do anything better than those Disney guys. Original creators of a successful franchise are eager to massacre their own boy (George Lucas and his Prequels; SW aside, we have the DCAU as a sad example of Dini (Batman: the adventures continue) and Timm (the latest being B:CC) doing exactly the same things as Kathleen Kennedy with SW). 

Quality content is completely impossible nowadays 

Anyone can do better than whoever is at Lucasfilm

However  I agree that Quality content is impossible now, Hollywood is just trash now, not focused on entertaining people WHICH THEY ARE MEANT TO DO, only good movies nowadays are really just non big IP's or Indie films

What I can't understand is why no one at Disney stops what they're doing, look at the script/project and say to themselves ''will this work, is this bad, is this good, should I release this, I should only hire good writers, what do fans want''

[Max_Lego]

25 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

What I can't understand is why no one at Disney stops what they're doing, look at the script/project and say to themselves ''will this work, is this bad, is this good, should I release this, I should only hire good writers, what do fans want''

Because they profit large sums of money without the necessity of producing quality content. They just don't have to. There are mady ways to make money nowadays aside of creating something that will entertain the public 

[Flawless Cowboy]

41 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

anyway do you guys think Lego will drop the SW IP ? the brand isn't really popular nowadays, it's just slop now, I always see the shelves fully stocked 

No. The older generations are getting catered to with the adult lines and considering we’re getting a thousand dollar set this year, the mature market is lucrative. As long as there are people who “grew up” with Star Wars, the brand will continue. As far as kids go, the number of children’s sets has already been dwarfed by the 18+ sets. Star Wars doesn’t have the choke hold it once did on the younger crowd and I don’t see that changing, but Lego makes crazy money off adults alone. If anything, it might go the way of LOTR, focusing more and more on adults. After all, kids aren’t watching LOTR, and they surely aren’t reading the books either. 

Edited April 1 by Flawless Cowboy

[Lego Nostalgia]

27 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

No. The older generations are getting catered to with the adult lines and considering we’re getting a thousand dollar set this year, the mature market is lucrative. As long as there are people who “grew up” with Star Wars, the brand will continue. As far as kids go, the number of children’s sets has already been dwarfed by the 18+ sets. Star Wars doesn’t have the choke hold it once did on the younger crowd and I don’t see that changing, but Lego makes crazy money off adults alone. If anything, it might go the way of LOTR, focusing more and more on adults. After all, kids aren’t watching LOTR, and they surely aren’t reading the books either. 

Let's hope it doesn't get to LOTR where a set at most is 270$, playscale ships are for adults too

[Flawless Cowboy]

Fateful teasing an Indiana Jones return. April Fools aside, this would be the fifth true “prediction” from T&N’s 2023 list. The final one would be an Endor MBS, which I assume would come out next year. 

[CallumPears]

14 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

Fateful teasing an Indiana Jones return. April Fools aside, this would be the fifth true “prediction” from T&N’s 2023 list. The final one would be an Endor MBS, which I assume would come out next year. 

One thing to note is that it's the Temple of Doom which was cancelled back in 2023 and we got some blurry leaks of it but never had clear ones. I know there was some of drama in the LIJ Reddit community about it (something about Fateful not wanting to release the full pictures for security reasons but then someone he showed one to in private did, or something like that?) so this could be a revenge prank 2 years in the making, but we'll find out for sure tomorrow I guess. 

[CloneCommando99]

1 hour ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Only way Star Wars will get better is if there's a purge and everyone in Lucasfilm is fired and bring back the people that were around when George was there, they were fired and replaced with these Disney activists, if Kathleen ever leaves, which I doubt lol, it won't matter, her followers are still there, Star Wars has been rock bottom since TLJ but I stayed hanging on to false hope, hoping for the best, the Acolyte is what killed it forever for me

You do know that Kathleen and Dave worked at Lucasfilm years before the acquisition right? They were literally handpicked by George.

 

Look, I used to think like this too. But then I started looking at which content creators were actually criticising these things and what else they were criticising. They tend to be the same people who complained about bricks and screws in Andor, fire in space in the Acolyte (despite the Death Star itself having a massive exothermic explosion) (don’t get me wrong it is a terrible show), a real life gun being used in Andor, and even Ewoks existing if you go far back enough in the fanbase’s history. And don’t get me started on the “SW was never political crowd” George was literally inspired by the Vietnam war (which he was writing ANH during) and Bush’s push for emergency powers in RoTS. A lot of them are nit picky people who hold SW to a standard it’s never met because of their nostalgia.

There’s also nothing wrong with adding more diversity. If you want to appeal to international markets and both genders it’s just common business logic. The problem is when it’s focused on and forced in at the expense of the story and writing (cough Reva cough)

These days I just look at the good things (Andor, JFO, JS, Rebels, TBB, TCWS7,  Mando S1-2 Rogue One, Squadrons, both Thrawn trilogies, Tarkin novel and the Aftermath trilogy) casually enjoy Kenobi, TFA and Ahsoka as they have their moments and ignore the abysmal bantha poop that are Acolyte, TBoBF and TROS. Of course this is all subjective.

Overall it’s all subjective and dependent on each individual’s POV and preference. My father for one hates the prequels and animation but loves the sequels, I am the opposite, but we both agree on Andor and Rogue One being great. Like they say: one man’s garbage is another man’s treasure.

2 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Buildable Cassian Andor confirmed

Build is described as boring like the show

270$

September 1st release

The bait is strong with this one.

Maybe you’re right. Maybe SW does need a little break from the big and little screens. But may I remind ya’ll that if SW goes away for a while it might lose all relevance, since you guys so eagerly point out that the Sequels didn’t create many new fans among kids. If SW isn’t kept relevant by new content so it can be introduced by new people, we face the risk of the fanbase gradually withering away since even established fans will have less to keep invested. Do you really wish to see future generations not be SW fans because of a few mediocre movies?

Either way. Let the video games still remain operational. Jedi games, squadrons and BF2 are proof that Disney can cook in the video game department.

 

 

TandN said earlier that a Christmas tie fighter is coming. That would be cool. But I don’t know the difference between reality and fiction on this accursed day.

Edited April 1 by CloneCommando99

[Rwbricks]

31 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

Fateful teasing an Indiana Jones return. April Fools aside, this would be the fifth true “prediction” from T&N’s 2023 list. The final one would be an Endor MBS, which I assume would come out next year. 

I actually have *exclusive* insider information about this. 75419 was thought to be the Death Star, but it’s actually the boulder from the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark. The price is still the same, and it comes with the same Indiana Jones minifigure, as well as an exclusive Belloq (he has dual-molded boots). Leakers just saw a giant grey sphere and took a guess. 
 

 

 

 

My friend’s uncle’s dentist knows the plumber of the head LEGO UCS idea team, Jim Galidor. 

[Lego Nostalgia]

17 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

You do know that Kathleen and Dave worked at Lucasfilm years before the acquisition right? They were literally handpicked by George.

 

Look, I used to think like this too. But then I started looking at which content creators were actually criticising these things and what else they were criticising. They tend to be the same people who complained about bricks and screws in Andor, fire in space in the Acolyte (despite the Death Star itself having a massive exothermic explosion) (don’t get me wrong it is a terrible show), a real life gun being used in Andor, and even Ewoks existing if you go far back enough in the fanbase’s history. And don’t get me started on the “SW was never political crowd” George was literally inspired by the Vietnam war (which he was writing ANH during) and Bush’s push for emergency powers in RoTS. A lot of them are nit picky people who hold SW to a standard it’s never met because of their nostalgia.

There’s also nothing wrong with adding more diversity. If you want to appeal to international markets and both genders it’s just common business logic. The problem is when it’s focused on and forced in at the expense of the story and writing (cough Reva cough)

These days I just look at the good things (Andor, JFO, JS, Rebels, TBB, TCWS7,  Mando S1-2 Rogue One, Squadrons, both Thrawn trilogies, Tarkin novel and the Aftermath trilogy) casually enjoy Kenobi, TFA and Ahsoka as they have their moments and ignore the abysmal bantha poop that are Acolyte, TBoBF and TROS. Of course this is all subjective.

Overall it’s all subjective and dependent on each individual’s POV and preference. My father for one hates the prequels and animation but loves the sequels, I am the opposite, but we both agree on Andor and Rogue One being great. Like they say: one man’s garbage is another man’s treasure.

The bait is strong with this one.

Maybe you’re right. Maybe SW does need a little break from the big and little screens. But may I remind ya’ll that if SW goes away for a while it might lose all relevance, since you guys so eagerly point out that the Sequels didn’t create many new fans among kids. If SW isn’t kept relevant by new content so it can be introduced by new people, we face the risk of the fanbase gradually withering away since even established fans will have less to keep invested. Do you really wish to see future generations not be SW fans because of a few mediocre movies?

Either way. Let the video games still remain operational. Jedi games, squadrons and BF2 are proof that Disney can cook in the video game department.

 

 

TandN said earlier that a Christmas tie fighter is coming. That would be cool. But I don’t know the difference between reality and fiction on this accursed day.

I'd rather have SW lose relevance (it kind of has) than to be bastardized any longer, it's dead and disney is poking it's corpse with a stick trying to squeeze whatever non existing bit is left out of it

Anyway my generation doesn't really care about movies anymore, it's just gaming, smoking vapes

[Max_Lego]

24 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

good things (Andor, JFO, JS, Rebels, TBB, TCWS7,  Mando S1-2 Rogue One, Squadrons, both Thrawn trilogies, Tarkin novel and the Aftermath trilogy)

They were not supposed to be good things; and, surprise surprise, they aren't (I know it is a matter of taste, but after watching the OT a bazillion times I cringe at everything, for I started seeing how flawed every single SW EU piece is; I firmly believe that NOT A SINGLE IMAGINARY UNIVERSE (SW included) LORE SHOULD HAVE ARROGANT CONTRADICTIONS). 

It honestly surprises me how many fans love Rogue one; this movie is basically everything wrong with Disney Star Wars: stupid plot, violent lore breaking and lots of fake nostalgia. You cannot just copypaste elements from ANH without understanding how they work to achieve a good result. 

13 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I'd rather have SW lose relevance (it kind of has) than to be bastardized any longer, it's dead and disney is poking it's corpse with a stick trying to squeeze whatever non existing bit is left out of it

Anyway my generation doesn't really care about movies anymore, it's just gaming, smoking vapes

Totally agree, especially with the last part 

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, Max_Lego said:

If DS happens - Yularen, and especially Tarkin, and probably Krennic, are going to show up. If UT-AT happens - Bacara will totally get a new helmet mold (if he is included). I am not sure if UT-AT is going to happen or not, and whether Bacara is included or not. 

I only know TLG is never going to realise small, affordable sets with DS characters I need after this 1000$ disaster. RIP my ANH brickfilm... Guess it's never going to happen. 

That's what I'm saying- the things that aren't clearly april fools are so obviously likely that I could have said all them as "leaks". I just think the game that leaker was playing hurts his credibility because it gives him an easy out for some very simple guesses.

2 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Only way Star Wars will get better is if there's a purge and everyone in Lucasfilm is fired and bring back the people that were around when George was there, they were fired and replaced with these Disney activists, if Kathleen ever leaves, which I doubt lol, it won't matter, her followers are still there, Star Wars has been rock bottom since TLJ but I stayed hanging on to false hope, hoping for the best, the Acolyte is what killed it forever for me

As others have said, Kathleen Kennedy has been around in some capacity since well before George left. Dave Filoni was literally his prodigy so to speak. A number of the people around when George was there are still there.

A new head with a new priority list, or even just some new writers, could easily fix the issues the franchise has been having. You don't need to fire the concept artists and Joe in the storyboarding department, or even all the writers. You just swap out the person at the top, and/or hire some different writers for these projects, and you can fix it.

45 minutes ago, Rwbricks said:

I actually have *exclusive* insider information about this. 75419 was thought to be the Death Star, but it’s actually the boulder from the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark. The price is still the same, and it comes with the same Indiana Jones minifigure, as well as an exclusive Belloq (he has dual-molded boots). Leakers just saw a giant grey sphere and took a guess. 

My friend’s uncle’s dentist knows the plumber of the head LEGO UCS idea team, Jim Galidor. 

I can back this up. I've hidden this from you all for too long, but.... I am Jim Galidor.

[ARC2149Nova]

28 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I'd rather have SW lose relevance (it kind of has) it's dead and disney is poking it's corpse with a stick trying to squeeze whatever non existing bit is left out of it

Exactly. Star Wars has been practically dead for a while now. There's no sense in continuing to beat it.

48 minutes ago, CloneCommando99 said:

good things (Andor, JFO, JS, Rebels, TBB, TCWS7,  Mando S1-2 Rogue One, Squadrons, both Thrawn trilogies, Tarkin novel and the Aftermath trilogy)

See, a lot of newer fans see the above as peak Star Wars, when it isn't. Peak Star Wars is the OT. I love the Prequels, too, but recognize they have a lesser standing. Star Wars is Anakin and Luke's story. Once you stray away from that, it can still be decent, but it shouldn't dictate what people think the franchise is. Nowadays when people think "Star Wars", they think "Mando/Ahsoka/Bad Batch/Andor" not "Luke Skywalker" and that is a problem.

Also, Bad Batch was 9/10s trash and Siege of Mandalore is overrated. Fight me. 

And there is only one Thrawn Trilogy. You can pick either the original (Heir to the Empire) or the Ascendancy books, but you can't have both (At least, from a canon perspective).

[Mandalorianknight]

6 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Nowadays when people think "Star Wars", they think...Bad Batch..

I promise you no one thinks this

[Flawless Cowboy]

57 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Anyway my generation doesn't really care about movies anymore, it's just gaming, smoking vapes

The entertainment industry has definitely shifted from crafting films to churning out a myriad of television shows on streaming services. A far, far dumber form of entertainment. 

[Virginia_Bricks]

Do people really think Star Wars is dead or is the sarcasm really bad in this forum? 6 of the Top 10 watched shows on Disney+ last year were Star Wars. Lego, the world's largest toy company, has its largest line dedicated to Star Wars. Is the fandom where it used to be, maybe not. But it definitely isn't dead.

[Max_Lego]

7 minutes ago, Virginia_Bricks said:

Do people really think Star Wars is dead or is the sarcasm really bad in this forum? 6 of the Top 10 watched shows on Disney+ last year were Star Wars. Lego, the world's largest toy company, has its largest line dedicated to Star Wars. Is the fandom where it used to be, maybe not. But it definitely isn't dead.

Does it still exist? - definitely. Fewer and fewer people care about new installments of the franchise over the years? - quite so. Maybe not utterly dead yet, but it's dying for a long time already...

26 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

Also, Bad Batch was 9/10s trash and Siege of Mandalore is overrated. Fight me. 

ANYTHING with Filoni involved was trash, IMAO

[Flawless Cowboy]

14 minutes ago, Max_Lego said:

ANYTHING with Filoni involved was trash, IMAO

Wasn’t Filoni writer and director on much of the beloved Clone Wars?

[Lego Nostalgia]

31 minutes ago, Virginia_Bricks said:

Do people really think Star Wars is dead or is the sarcasm really bad in this forum? 6 of the Top 10 watched shows on Disney+ last year were Star Wars. Lego, the world's largest toy company, has its largest line dedicated to Star Wars. Is the fandom where it used to be, maybe not. But it definitely isn't dead.

I mean it's just not popular anymore, the new stuff anyway, people just don't care anymore, me included, when you destroy beloved characters like Luke,Boba,Obi wan, it's a big insult to the fandom

And they don't care about the lore, they are trying so hard to move away from George's vision, I think if The Acolyte didn't release then SW might have had some small chance, it's just actors and Lucasfilm insulting the fans and it's all a big F you to us all, clearly Kathy hates the old audience and they are trying so hard to get a new audience that's easier to  make slop for

Now I'll be honest, Rogue One, Mando season 1 & 2 were good but still, it just doesn't feel like George's version

I just don't see how long this franchise can keep losing money and fans and stay relevant

[ARC2149Nova]

34 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I promise you no one thinks this

You can cherrypick the sentiment, but you haven't denied the major flaw. Most people think Star Wars = Mando, Ahsoka, Andor, and whatever else Disney decides to spit out. Not the original story, and not the original characters (save Vader).

26 minutes ago, Virginia_Bricks said:

Do people really think Star Wars is dead?

Yes. Cash cow or no, fatigue is starting to set in. Just because people watch it, doesn't make it good which, in my opinion, that's what defines a franchise as alive or dead. Not the amount of money it makes. That's not how some will see it, but that's how I view it.

6 minutes ago, Flawless Cowboy said:

Wasn’t Filoni writer and director on much of the beloved Clone Wars?

The older I get, the more I fall out of love with TCW. There are some aspects which will forever be cool, but it really overshadows a lot of greater EU material, which, while that's mostly the fault of us, the audience, I can't forgive it for that.

That and Filoni has overstayed his welcome to me. The favoritism he's shown his OCs and the way he's essentially made his Star Wars our Star Wars has gotten old. I mean, essentially doing Heir to the Empire with none of that Trilogy's characters was the final straw for me. (Aside from the obvious Thrawn, please no semantics).

The real answer to your question is: Not everybody loved/loves TCW, and Filoni has been criticized by many fans for years at this point. Even some die-hard Filoni Stans are starting to take issue with him.

[Lego Nostalgia]

I wish we could get a Stormtrooper show from a Troopers point of view or an actual Bounty Hunter show like Mando but just hunting bounties

[Llewop]

1 hour ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I'd rather have SW lose relevance (it kind of has) than to be bastardized any longer, it's dead and disney is poking it's corpse with a stick trying to squeeze whatever non existing bit is left out of it

Anyway my generation doesn't really care about movies anymore, it's just gaming, smoking vapes

It’s way off topic but it might just be that SW is so big and so many eras that all of the new stuff might just not be for you. There’s people on here who worship the OT and have little patience for anything else, there are people my age (30s) who had the prequels and enjoyed them for what they are and I’m sure in 10 years time people will be coming out as ST fans. Then you throw in those who like CW but hate Rebels and vice versa, those who flat out hate all the animated stuff. There is probably some out there who like everything and for me that’s fine. Everyone has their favourites and I don’t think more content is ever going to take away from anyone’s favourites. Disney has its faults but I’d rather have the content we’ve had for the past 10+ years than have nothing, at least for me now because of Disney and the new stuff there is an established canon whether you like it or not it used to wind me up everyone arguing over what is and isn’t canon. 

SW fans now are almost as bad as Star Trek fans if not worse you could argue Star Trek have had it a lot worse than StarWars has recently but you know you’ve got fans of the originals, TNG, Voyager, DS9, Enterprise and even Discovery doesn’t mean one trumps the over they just all exist in the same galaxy.
 

For me what SW need to do is to have a massive time jump forward so there is literally no connection to any existing characters or anything and tell a new story and maybe blow up Tatooine in the first minute as that planet gets overused. 
 

back to Lego I saw someone tease a Christmas themed TIE getting released obviously it’s a fake but I never knew how much I wanted one until now…

[Lego Nostalgia]

2 minutes ago, ARC2149Nova said:

You can cherrypick the sentiment, but you haven't denied the major flaw. Most people think Star Wars = Mando, Ahsoka, Andor, and whatever else Disney decides to spit out. Not the original story, and not the original characters (save Vader).

Yes. Cash cow or no, fatigue is starting to set in. Just because people watch it, doesn't make it good which, in my opinion, that's what defines a franchise as alive or dead. Not the amount of money it makes. That's not how some will see it, but that's how I view it.

The older I get, the more I fall out of love with TCW. There are some aspects which will forever be cool, but it really overshadows a lot of greater EU material, which, while that's mostly the fault of us, the audience, I can't forgive it for that.

That and Filoni has overstayed his welcome to me. The favoritism he's shown his OCs and the way he's essentially made his Star Wars our Star Wars has gotten old. I mean, essentially doing Heir to the Empire with none of that Trilogy's characters was the final straw for me. (Aside from the obvious Thrawn, please no semantics).

The real answer to your question is: Not everybody loved/loves TCW, and Filoni has been criticized by many fans for years at this point. Even some die-hard Filoni Stans are starting to take issue with him.

He loves to shove Ahsoka in everything he does, Ahsoka is by no means a bad character, she was likeable in the CW, in the show however, she's so dull and uninteresting, probably because the Actress shows no emotion

[Max_Lego]

2 minutes ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

I wish we could get a Stormtrooper show from a Troopers point of view

"For the Empire" on YouTube 

[Lego Nostalgia]

1 minute ago, Llewop said:

It’s way off topic but it might just be that SW is so big and so many eras that all of the new stuff might just not be for you. There’s people on here who worship the OT and have little patience for anything else, there are people my age (30s) who had the prequels and enjoyed them for what they are and I’m sure in 10 years time people will be coming out as ST fans. Then you throw in those who like CW but hate Rebels and vice versa, those who flat out hate all the animated stuff. There is probably some out there who like everything and for me that’s fine. Everyone has their favourites and I don’t think more content is ever going to take away from anyone’s favourites. Disney has its faults but I’d rather have the content we’ve had for the past 10+ years than have nothing, at least for me now because of Disney and the new stuff there is an established canon whether you like it or not it used to wind me up everyone arguing over what is and isn’t canon. 

SW fans now are almost as bad as Star Trek fans if not worse you could argue Star Trek have had it a lot worse than StarWars has recently but you know you’ve got fans of the originals, TNG, Voyager, DS9, Enterprise and even Discovery doesn’t mean one trumps the over they just all exist in the same galaxy.
 

For me what SW need to do is to have a massive time jump forward so there is literally no connection to any existing characters or anything and tell a new story and maybe blow up Tatooine in the first minute as that planet gets overused. 
 

back to Lego I saw someone tease a Christmas themed TIE getting released obviously it’s a fake but I never knew how much I wanted one until now…

The OT started it all, it is the true Star Wars since it's a classic, iconic story and The Prequels weren't the best, sure but they really did feel like the SW world, Revenge Of The Sith was the last best SW movie in my opinion, nowadays they just play it safe, Bad guys lose, Good guys win