Marvel Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion

[psqidexslizer]

More pictures are up in the usual places for the Doc Ock vs Spider-Man mecha-palooza, as well as our first pictures for buildable Groot and the Miles Mec

[Mandalorianknight]

Interesting couple of sets:

MIGUEL STOP YOU'VE GOT THE WRONG MILES: This is a really funny mech to me for a few reasons. The first being that the mech itself is absolutely kitted out with the triple stud shooter and big lightning bolt element, along with the giant shoulder flaps that make the mech look like it's got bodybuilder arms. The second is that while the mech's logo is based on the spider-verse movies, the figures are just of normal comic Miles and Miguel, not their sony versions, so it's really odd that they're fighting- and 2099 is shooting a laser? Does he have that power in the comics, I don't think I've ever seen him use it? An odd setup but a solid 8/10 set as far as mechs go, it looks fun and it'll be nice for kids to get 2099 cheap without gambling on the CMF version.

Buildable Baby Groot #712: Ok so we're done now, right? We've had Baby groot, venom Baby groot, rocket with baby groot, twig baby groot, there's no more baby groots. The only remaining option would be to do something like a big adult groot, which could be used in figure compatible displays as a fully grown Flora Colussus Groot, which of course we'll never see. I expect Anti-Venomized groot in 2027. 6/10, this groot is basically just a recolor of the 2022/23 ones.

I will say, I love that stock photo where they've posed him up leaning on the bomb with his eyebrows angled to give him a stupid smug expression. It's like he's mocking us for how many of him they produce.

Edited December 1, 2025 by Mandalorianknight

[Lego_ofme]

No Jeff…. 🙁 

[BrickBob Studpants]

14 minutes ago, Lego_ofme said:

No Jeff…. 🙁 

Yeah, just a regular shark. Booooooooo. Also, no new pirate hat piece! I do like the recolours of the existing ones though.

[Mandalorianknight]

Nothing I can say is more profound than "No Jeff". Truly disappointing, the system wave this year is so stellar and the 4+ wave only had to do ONE THING.

Lego, I'm begging you, bring me rivals sets. Please. I'd sacrifice modular oscorp for it. (Obligatory Kaine, Daredevil, Moon Knight, Luna Snow- all of whom happen to be in rivals as characters or skins.) I would even take a buildable Jeff. Please.

[thephantasm]

Strange how the spiderveese cmf sold out so quickly after launch in my country and theres no restock

Ordered 3 gwens but i guess no 2099 for me

 

[PGBQW]

The new Doc Ock looks like he has giant pecs and is lowkey making me uncomfortable

[psqidexslizer]

2 hours ago, PGBQW said:

The new Doc Ock looks like he has giant pecs and is lowkey making me uncomfortable

Alfred SWOLina

[LegendaryArticuno]

On 11/14/2025 at 5:54 AM, brickbride said:

Finally watched "F4". It's not the worst movie Marvel Studios have put out lately, but then "Qantumania" and "Thor Love & Thunder" set that bar really, really low. I was disturbed that every single person in the world seems to be merely an extra in the F4‘s lives. None of them have characterisations or agendas of their own, they basically serve as a faceless adoring mass (that turns briefly hateful but then just as quickly returns to its regular adoring state). And then there’s the fact that the entire movie feels like a throwback to the 60s but not in a good way. So much cringy pregnancy humour! (I was extremely glad when the Silver Surfer showed up half an hour in just because she put a brief stop to that.) So much unrealistic birthing! TWO female characters in a main cast of seven who BOTH solely exist to be Mothers (and in one case, to be sexy and flirtatious at the same time) and who BOTH get to sacrifice themselves! Yikes, was that thing actually written in the Sixties and sat in a time capsule for the last couple of decades or something?

Other than that, wow does the LEGO Galactus look bad in comparison. The scale is way off and the colour scheme does him no favour at all. And Johnny really really needed to be in his torch form while fighting him. Also where's Franklin? They could have used the existing baby and recoloured it. I think the scene might have worked better as a diorama of Galactus and a slice of New York (Times Square with the Bridge, little skyscrapers for him to smash) with the Four to be displayed on the side. Or just one of those "rubble" sets (á la "Endgame") that LEGO likes so much, with maybe Sue in the crashed car, Johnny pursuing the Silver Surfer, and the remaining F4 in there, too. People would have bought it solely for the figs but then I guess that's the idea of the existing set anyway.

I found F4 to be super overrated as a movie, I honestly regret spending the money to watch in theatres. Felt like a generic and formulaic movie written by AI. The only good part of the movie was the space flight scenes that  reminded me of Interstellar.

I found the movie to be so mid that it completely killed any hype I had for any of the overpriced F4 lego sets. I would rather spend on the overpriced Spiderverse sets tbh.

Edited December 5, 2025 by LegendaryArticuno

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, LegendaryArticuno said:

I found F4 to be super overrated as a movie, I honestly regret spending the money to watch in theatres. Felt like a generic and formulaic movie written by AI. The only good part of the movie was the space flight scenes that  reminded me of Interstellar.

I found the movie to be so mid that it completely killed any hype I had for any of the overpriced F4 lego sets. 

That's unfair to the writers, they're been making generic and formulaic movies long before ai. :D

There's only one F4 lego set.

5 hours ago, PGBQW said:

The new Doc Ock looks like he has giant pecs and is lowkey making me uncomfortable

When he said he was the superior spider-man, he meant it. Otto is putting peter's workout routine to shame.

[brickbride]

On 12/1/2025 at 3:59 AM, Mandalorianknight said:

Buildable Baby Groot #712: Ok so we're done now, right? We've had Baby groot, venom Baby groot, rocket with baby groot, twig baby groot, there's no more baby groots.

What do you mean? We haven't even gotten to Baby Groot dressed as Wolverine! Buildable Baby Groot in a buildable Hulkbuster! Buildable Baby Groot with a smart brick function and a tiny little smart brick baby groot minifig inside! The possibilities are endless! 

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

There's only one F4 lego set.

So far.

[Mandalorianknight]

12 hours ago, brickbride said:

What do you mean? We haven't even gotten to Baby Groot dressed as Wolverine! Buildable Baby Groot in a buildable Hulkbuster! Buildable Baby Groot with a smart brick function and a tiny little smart brick baby groot minifig inside! The possibilities are endless! 

Oh, no... they're definitely going to do Smart Groot, and I don't think Iron Groot is impossible either.

12 hours ago, brickbride said:

So far.

Unfortunately I don't know how much more we're going to see anytime particularly soon- Sure, the figures will probably be re-used in Doomsday sets, or maybe even get new torsos, but I wouldn't count those as F4 sets, especially since 

Spoiler

it sounds like the four are split up for most of the movie, with only Reed and Sue being in the main plot.

 

[Kaijumeister]

Some quick thoughts now that LAN have started reviewing the January wave:

- Ghost Rider Bike: As close to a perfect £9 set as one can ask for within a licensed theme. I do wish GR had a chain though.

- Daily Bugle: Great set (with a fun play feature relating to Mysterio). It really pays off focusing on one large build, however I still wish these buildings had more of an interior. I’d also replace Miles and Gwen with generic civilians, or at least someone to man the news stand to give a sense of stakes bigger than property damage. 

- Epic Moments: Glad to see the instruction booklets confirming this is the start of a new subtheme, even though we all assumed as much. A set based on the finale of Spider-Man 2002 with Green Goblin would be awesome. With the circular bases these sets share, I hope the intention is to keep this subline compact and affordable. 

Removing the dual moulded legs on Spider-Man is ridiculous though, given how much he’s reused everywhere. I also pray the Lego Marvel team intend to produce an MCU Captain America with a similar level of detail to the Venomised one.

Edited December 7, 2025 by Kaijumeister

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Kaijumeister said:

I’d also replace Miles and Gwen with generic civilians, or at least someone to man the news stand to give a sense of stakes bigger than property damage. 

I agree that Miles and Gwen shouldn't be there- they've become too prominent in main-universe spider-man stuff anyway (especially spider-Gwen, who either overwrites mainline Gwen or just doesn't work as a character in "normal" universes), but I do think it's funny that the implication here would be that JJJ counts as a combatant rather than a civilian. (Which I think is fair- he's tried to have spider-man killed a number of times, come close to shooting Goblin in the head, etc. He can hold his own.)

I am very excited for this wave, even if the only set I'm absolutely sure I'm picking up is the ghost rider bike. At $25 I'll probably get the SM3 set as well, and I'm considering taking the bugle and modding it into another building, though I'll likely wait for a discount for that one.

Edited December 8, 2025 by Mandalorianknight

[calebcold3]

Here's hoping one of the two April 2026 sets that are 9+ (76347 and 76348) is an Epic Moment set featuring Spider-Man VS Goblin from Spider-Man 1. 

I would hope both of those sets are Epic Moment sets, but I'm just expecting one of them to be an Epic Moment, and the other to be a gimmick set. 

[LegendaryArticuno]

Is the subway set considered an epic moment set? If so more of those please.

[Swordy]

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I am very excited for this wave, even if the only set I'm absolutely sure I'm picking up is the ghost rider bike. At $25 I'll probably get the SM3 set as well

Conversely, I’m definitely getting the SM3 set, while the Ghost Rider bike is a maybe.
I’m just not as in love with the finished set as I was with the concept, nor do I love the penance stare face for our first “removable flame” Johnny Blaze; so I might buy the ‘23 mech GR and MOC his bike separately. (Although both of those tasks are much easier said than done, so simply buying the bike is still on the table.) On the other hand, the SM3 set is a win all around in my case; Sandman can just as easily be a Sand Goon while I use the NWH Sandman build, and I have yet to own a Tobey minifig; plus I feel I should support good value, sub-$30 at that, sets.

7 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

- Epic Moments: Glad to see the instruction booklets confirming this is the start of a new subtheme, even though we all assumed as much. A set based on the finale of Spider-Man 2002 with Green Goblin would be awesome. With the circular bases these sets share, I hope the intention is to keep this subline compact and affordable. 

Removing the dual moulded legs on Spider-Man is ridiculous though, given how much he’s reused everywhere.

Agreed! I’m shocked—SHOCKED, I tell you—that TLG hasn’t made Raimi Goblin yet, so I expect it this year or next. I also hope this subline emphasizes affordability over shoving everything in one single package.
As for Epic Moments—just to spitball on my keyboard—I could see a Cap/Bucky V Tony Siberia battle, Amazing Spider-Man V Electro—why, perhaps even the Thunderbolts* hugging Bob! (Just kidding, that last one is too wholesome for TLG’s standards.)

I’ve always thought TLG’s dual-moulding criteria to be dumb—particularly with a piece currently available to purchase on PaB. Sometimes I feel like John L. Ego wants to keep the optimal Spidey out of reach from kids… oh wait, the ‘23 Spidey V Doc Ock mech didn’t care.

 

 

On 11/9/2025 at 12:43 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

I liked it at first, but the more time that's gone by and especially as other forum members have pointed things out to me, I think it was just that it wasn't terrible like I expected it to be. It's still not a great adaption of the F4, though I'd probably put it as the best movie adaption.

Completely agree on all the characters. Thing and Johnny were pretty similar to how they should be- I will never get over the fact that they made press statements about "modernizing" Johnny and he's just the exact same Johnny in the movie. Sue was a good character who had a solid story, but she didn't feel like Sue's personality, and as much as I wanted to chalk that up to the gravity of the situation, it's not like the F4 aren't constantly saving the world. Reed was my least favorite, I agree that he's written well but Pedro Pascal just isn't a good Reed Richards. 

Surfer is one thing I do maintain the movie did well, and like you say, a rare example of the gender swap actually meaning something for what it adds to Johnny and Sue's arcs. I still want the main surfer to be Norrin, but I'm OK with this alternate universe one being a woman. (I will also need a joke in doomsday/secret wars where Johnny hears that surfer is coming, and then when Surfer lands and it's Norrin Johnny's bummed out. But rumor is he and Ben get benched with half the Thunderbolts so Reed and Sue can go join the Samvengers for the main story....)

This may have been pointed out to me before and then I forgot it in the interim, but when I watched the movie I totally thought that WAS Alicia and they'd just butchered the character. I remember thinking it was really odd that she could see. I assume this Rachel character was added because the writers were trying to show that they know Ben is Jewish in the comics without actually making him Jewish in the movie, for some reason. Like he shows up to the (synagogue, not mosque), but he's just kind of there to see Rachel, not to practice his faith. The only reason I can think for them cutting Alicia in the first place is that in this world nobody's freaked out by how Thing looks, but while you lose an aspect of how they first meet, it's not like they were only together because most people were freaked out by Thing's appearance.

I can see that; I’ve heard a similar sentiment from others, so I can understand the sentiment. I will say that my knowledge of the FF comics is pretty limited (I hope to change that soon), so I’ll respect y’all’s assessment. Nonetheless, like you said, while it’s not perfect, it is the best so far. My feelings going into the film were shaky after the discussions here and abroad, but after rewatching on Thanksgiving, I believe I’ve ended up loving it, despite it’s faults. (I’d probably compare this to CA:TFA, a film that isn’t perfect or outstanding but has the right feels for me.)

Well, same Johnny, yeah, except less of a jerk than the 2005/07 film, correct? (I don’t plan on seeing either anytime soon, so I stand ignorant in this case.) I guess that’s what the press statements meant, albeit a bit too far in pushing “modern” instead of… normal, I guess. Thank you for Swordy’ing my unspoken feelings on Sue, actually; she seemed off the entire time, and I partially blame the modern hairstyle. I feel better about Pedro as Reed than my first viewing, but I do think he works best bouncing off Johnny or Ben than with Sue or on his own. In fact, as much as the cast individually may irk me still (which isn’t a lot, to be fair), I do find their combined chemistry most redeeming.

Sue’s arc? I mean, my major fault with the movie is that it lacked any notable interaction between Sue and Shalla-Bal. Agreed on the need for the proper Silver Surfer in the MCU; I know gender shouldn’t matter, but with the different… physique, it kinda does help having the Surfer be male—oh yeah, and comic accuracy supreme too.
So, with the sketches on Reed’s chalkboard depicting that the teleporter could potentially open a whole into another universe, I wonder if Galactus and Shalla Surfer will end up in the MCU after all. I’d find it idiotic, but I do think a show about what happened to the Surfer after pushing Galactus through the portal is an intriguing concept. (Again, I’m on the side of Norrin Rad, but we already lost the chance at a proper film adaptation of FF #48-50, so I’m over it at this point.)
(I love that idea and I need to see this happen. However, I’m in extreme dismay that Human Torch is going to be sidelined in Doomsday, and I can’t conceive a reasonable explanation why Stretcho is chosen over Brawn and FIRE POWER.)

That explains a lot… and makes me more upset than I was at the first. (I also feel so disappointed in myself for forgetting “synagogue”.) The film references Jack Kirby’s quote about putting himself in his characters, yet ignores the main aspect of Ben Grimm that he and Kirby share? With DDBA’s use of Catholicism in mind, it’s not unlike Disney, sadly.
I mean, the idea that, four years into being a superhero, people are kinda used to the Thing’s appearance makes sense. (That was kinda the intent of Reed for becoming superheroes in the first place, right?) After all, we in the U.S. got used to an orange-skinned, golden-haired man being president, right? Lol It’s all relative.

[Mandalorianknight]

7 hours ago, Swordy said:

Conversely, I’m definitely getting the SM3 set, while the Ghost Rider bike is a maybe.
I’m just not as in love with the finished set as I was with the concept, nor do I love the penance stare face for our first “removable flame” Johnny Blaze; so I might buy the ‘23 mech GR and MOC his bike separately. (Although both of those tasks are much easier said than done, so simply buying the bike is still on the table.) On the other hand, the SM3 set is a win all around in my case; Sandman can just as easily be a Sand Goon while I use the NWH Sandman build, and I have yet to own a Tobey minifig; plus I feel I should support good value, sub-$30 at that, sets.

I can see that; I’ve heard a similar sentiment from others, so I can understand the sentiment. I will say that my knowledge of the FF comics is pretty limited (I hope to change that soon), so I’ll respect y’all’s assessment. Nonetheless, like you said, while it’s not perfect, it is the best so far. My feelings going into the film were shaky after the discussions here and abroad, but after rewatching on Thanksgiving, I believe I’ve ended up loving it, despite it’s faults. (I’d probably compare this to CA:TFA, a film that isn’t perfect or outstanding but has the right feels for me.)

Well, same Johnny, yeah, except less of a jerk than the 2005/07 film, correct? (I don’t plan on seeing either anytime soon, so I stand ignorant in this case.) I guess that’s what the press statements meant, albeit a bit too far in pushing “modern” instead of… normal, I guess. Thank you for Swordy’ing my unspoken feelings on Sue, actually; she seemed off the entire time, and I partially blame the modern hairstyle. I feel better about Pedro as Reed than my first viewing, but I do think he works best bouncing off Johnny or Ben than with Sue or on his own. In fact, as much as the cast individually may irk me still (which isn’t a lot, to be fair), I do find their combined chemistry most redeeming.

Sue’s arc? I mean, my major fault with the movie is that it lacked any notable interaction between Sue and Shalla-Bal. Agreed on the need for the proper Silver Surfer in the MCU; I know gender shouldn’t matter, but with the different… physique, it kinda does help having the Surfer be male—oh yeah, and comic accuracy supreme too.
So, with the sketches on Reed’s chalkboard depicting that the teleporter could potentially open a whole into another universe, I wonder if Galactus and Shalla Surfer will end up in the MCU after all. I’d find it idiotic, but I do think a show about what happened to the Surfer after pushing Galactus through the portal is an intriguing concept. (Again, I’m on the side of Norrin Rad, but we already lost the chance at a proper film adaptation of FF #48-50, so I’m over it at this point.)
(I love that idea and I need to see this happen. However, I’m in extreme dismay that Human Torch is going to be sidelined in Doomsday, and I can’t conceive a reasonable explanation why Stretcho is chosen over Brawn and FIRE POWER.)

That explains a lot… and makes me more upset than I was at the first. (I also feel so disappointed in myself for forgetting “synagogue”.) The film references Jack Kirby’s quote about putting himself in his characters, yet ignores the main aspect of Ben Grimm that he and Kirby share? With DDBA’s use of Catholicism in mind, it’s not unlike Disney, sadly.
I mean, the idea that, four years into being a superhero, people are kinda used to the Thing’s appearance makes sense. (That was kinda the intent of Reed for becoming superheroes in the first place, right?) After all, we in the U.S. got used to an orange-skinned, golden-haired man being president, right? Lol It’s all relative.

Yeah, I see what you mean about the bike and will definitely be Moccing it, but at $10 it's just easier to buy this to use as a base when buying an older GR by itself would end up being more than that if you include shipping from bricklink. Plus, with this being the first one with a removable flame, if I don't want to display the penance stare I can replace his head with any skeleton head (currently planning on using the classis "evil" skeleton head from fantasy era)

If I didn't have a Tobey the sandman set would be an immediate day one as well- it probably still will given that $25 price tag. And yes, you're right that it's good to support the price point for diorama sets.

 In regards to your F4 review, I think it does come down to, as you say, the best film interpretation, though still not a great interpretation. Johnny is less of a jerk than the 05/07 one, but so is comic Johnny most of the time. At least in most of the F4 stuff I've read, he's less of a playboy and more of the type of guy who falls in love with a new "the one" girl every two weeks and then when it inevitably fails falls in love again two weeks later. The other three may actually be characterized slightly worse than their 05/07 versions- even Sue, who has more depth of character than previous versions, feels like she got characterized to a different personality than her comic one.

The current rumors still imply they cut a solid chunk of the good/fun characters (John, Ava, Alexi, Johnny, Ben) so we can focus on scattered bits of the thunderbolts and F4 alongside a whole Samvenger team that assumably assembles offscreen and will be full of phase 4/5 characters nobody cares about or likes. Also, (I hope this doesn't count as a spoiler) I saw a film set leak and the Russos have kept that stupid beret for John. Somebody needs to walk onto the set and swap it with the cowl while on his head indiana jones-stealing-the-idol- style.

Don't even remind me about DDBA or it's "yeah we're pretty sure Daredevil's vaguely catholic, maybe, he's gonna act embarrassed when his girlfriend asks about it" stuff. I still can't believe that show managed to character assassinate (or actually assassinate) half the cast and yet it gets as many seasons as the netflix show? 

Sure, after some time the public will get more used to thing, but a big part of the character- especially early on- is that a lot of the outside world views him as a monster, and even after they realize he's on the good team are still uncomfortable or jumpy around him. Everybody seems absolutely fine and normal with Ben and there's no indication- not that it would necessarily be advertised- that he ever went through anything regarding his appearance.

 

13 hours ago, calebcold3 said:

Here's hoping one of the two April 2026 sets that are 9+ (76347 and 76348) is an Epic Moment set featuring Spider-Man VS Goblin from Spider-Man 1. 

That would be awesome, but I wonder if they'll space out the Raimi epic moments a bit more. They have the whole MCU, another spider-man franchise, and other pre-MCU properties to pull from, I think we'll probably see something Captain America, Thor, or Black Panther related soon, though whether that's alongside a Goblin fight epic moment or in place of it in that wave, I don't know.

10 hours ago, LegendaryArticuno said:

Is the subway set considered an epic moment set? If so more of those please.

Not officially, but it's probably a prototype for the subline the way we had the Vader's meditation pod diorama a little before the actual diorama subline started.

[brickbride]

On 12/8/2025 at 8:44 AM, Swordy said:

(...) I’m shocked—SHOCKED, I tell you—that TLG hasn’t made Raimi Goblin yet, so I expect it this year or next. (...)
As for Epic Moments—just to spitball on my keyboard—I could see a Cap/Bucky V Tony Siberia battle, Amazing Spider-Man V Electro—why, perhaps even the Thunderbolts* hugging Bob! (Just kidding, that last one is too wholesome for TLG’s standards.)

Doesn't the 76261 version count as a Raimi Goblin? He's very definitely the Goblin in this scene, not Norman. Or do you just mean with the mask?

That would be ... something. Epic Moment! A bunch of anti-heroes saving the day with the power of love! Epic Moment! A superpowered hero and his superpowered buddy teaming up in order to beat their none-superpowered hero teammate to death (he absolutely would have died if Black Panther hadn't shown up, which neither Cap nor Bucky could have anticipated)! As for the third, I'm not so sure LEGO (or anyone really) want to remind people of the mess that was Amazing Spider-Man 2.

I still want Strange vs. Dormammu, though. ;-) Iron Man with a nanobot sword vs Thanos on Titan would be pretty epic, too.

Edited December 9, 2025 by brickbride

[Mandalorianknight]

On 12/9/2025 at 7:33 AM, brickbride said:

Doesn't the 76261 version count as a Raimi Goblin? He's very definitely the Goblin in this scene, not Norman. Or do you just mean with the mask?

That would be ... something. Epic Moment! A bunch of anti-heroes saving the day with the power of love! Epic Moment! A superpowered hero and his superpowered buddy teaming up in order to beat their none-superpowered hero teammate to death (he absolutely would have died if Black Panther hadn't shown up, which neither Cap nor Bucky could have anticipated)! As for the third, I'm not so sure LEGO (or anyone really) want to remind people of the mess that was Amazing Spider-Man 2.

I still want Strange vs. Dormammu, though. ;-) Iron Man with a nanobot sword vs Thanos on Titan would be pretty epic, too.

I think he specifically means the suit from the Raimi movies, so the helmet and no purple cloth on the front. Though I have to say Raimi Goblin sort of suffers from the Boba Fett issue of there being no official lego color that works all that well for him. 

The Thunderbolts one has too many figures to fit this sort of price point, but I would love some form of set coverage from them. The Civil War duel is iconic and something I'm sure will do well- though they'll likely wait until the larger diorama retires- and I think it's A: reasonable for cap to assume that iron man would have some sort of backup in place, and B: that cap is the type of guy who probably would have informed someone of the location anyway to make sure. It's clear from him sending the phone that at the very least he assumed Tony survived. And you can of course also do this for the existing epic moments- "A billionaire violently beats a man with DiD having a mental heath crisis!" "A man who beat his girlfriend attacks someone he got fired and a father trying to help his sick daughter!"- anything from these movies can be made to sound bad.

I think the Titan battle has to be a shoe-in for either an Epic Moment (if it's restricted to Tony and/or Strange vs Thanos) or a larger diorama with everyone.

 

We now have confirmation Deadpool will be joining rivals next year, as well as his design, which is distinct from his comic/movie one featuring a bomber jacket/vest and a much longer... head sock? I don't know what you'd call it. Lego still seems hesitant to make Rivals sets for some reason, but if they ever get around to it, it'd be interesting to see if that brings us a new lego deadpool.

[Kaijumeister]

On 12/8/2025 at 7:44 AM, Swordy said:

Agreed! I’m shocked—SHOCKED, I tell you—that TLG hasn’t made Raimi Goblin yet, so I expect it this year or next. I also hope this subline emphasizes affordability over shoving everything in one single package.
As for Epic Moments—just to spitball on my keyboard—I could see a Cap/Bucky V Tony Siberia battle, Amazing Spider-Man V Electro—why, perhaps even the Thunderbolts* hugging Bob! (Just kidding, that last one is too wholesome for TLG’s standards.)

I’ve always thought TLG’s dual-moulding criteria to be dumb—particularly with a piece currently available to purchase on PaB. Sometimes I feel like John L. Ego wants to keep the optimal Spidey out of reach from kids… oh wait, the ‘23 Spidey V Doc Ock mech didn’t care.

Agreed! I like to think they’ve been saving a Spider-Man 2002 final battle set until they’ve had the budget to produce a new helmet piece and give arm / leg printing too. Hopefully 2026 is finally the year it happens! I love the idea of being able to display this year’s train set, the upcoming SM3 one, and a hypothetical Spider-Man 2002 one alongside each other. I do think we need a new Tobey variant though, preferably his mask with battle damage.

There is so much potential for the Epic Moments sets, especially being able to tackle scenes that haven’t yet been covered by Lego without sacrificing a higher price point set.

It really is confounding to me. With the insane amount of reuse they get out of the current Spider-Man minifigure, why not just give him the boots!? 

6 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think he specifically means the suit from the Raimi movies, so the helmet and no purple cloth on the front. Though I have to say Raimi Goblin sort of suffers from the Boba Fett issue of there being no official lego color that works all that well for him. 

Very true. And, man, I still wish the NWH Goblin figure was better. The face and torso printing were good but I’d have added leg printing, purple soft goods, and a recolour of the hood piece for Battle Ready Wyldstyle from the Lego Movie 2 CMF. I can understand the compromises they had to make given the stacked minifigure lineup for the NWH Final Battle though.

Edited December 12, 2025 by Kaijumeister

[brickbride]

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

And you can of course also do this for the existing epic moments- "A billionaire violently beats a man with DiD having a mental heath crisis!" "A man who beat his girlfriend attacks someone he got fired and a father trying to help his sick daughter!"- anything from these movies can be made to sound bad.

You don't have to try and make Siberia sound bad, though. It just was bad. I lost all respect for Cap in that moment. And again there's no indication that he planned on any sort of rescue for Tony. Tony's a public figure, the fact that he did not die would be public as well, so his sending the phone afterwards means nothing.

Of course I approach these movies like a rational human being, and I don't quite think Marvel Studios does; potentially lethal fights between teammates seem to be just a sort of filler to them. Like Cap, Thor, and Iron Man getting into a three-way fight to the death in "The Avengers" for really no good reason, or the stupid airport battle in "Civil War" that against all odds ended with barely any casualties. (Or even the Guardians vs. Strange/Iron Man/Spidey on Titan, though that's my favourite and at least neither party had reason to believe the other would be on their side at first glance.)

Edited December 12, 2025 by brickbride

[Mandalorianknight]

6 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

Agreed! I like to think they’ve been saving a Spider-Man 2002 final battle set until they’ve had the budget to produce a new helmet piece and give arm / leg printing too. Hopefully 2026 is finally the year it happens! I love the idea of being able to display this year’s train set, the upcoming SM3 one, and a hypothetical Spider-Man 2002 one alongside each other. I do think we need a new Tobey variant though, preferably his mask with battle damage.

There is so much potential for the Epic Moments sets, especially being able to tackle scenes that haven’t yet been covered by Lego without sacrificing a higher price point set.

Very true. And, man, I still wish the NWH Goblin figure was better. The face and torso printing were good but I’d have added leg printing, purple soft goods, and a recolour of the hood piece for Battle Ready Wyldstyle from the Lego Movie 2 CMF. I can understand the compromises they had to make given the stacked minifigure lineup for the NWH Final Battle though.

I think there'd be a good chance at getting a fully kitted out Raimi Goblin and a new battle-damaged mask for Tobey in an Epic Moment set for that scene, since there's no other figures to put in and they could re-use Tobey's torso. The other Raimi epic moment has a new set of legs, two new torsos, and two new heads, so it's not impossible, especially since I think you could get some more use out of a Raimi Goblin figure.

Yup. The Epic Moment subline, city-builder subline and the reintegration of the $10 price point are the three best possible things to happen to this theme IMO, and really puts lego marvel in a strong position for the future. The former two are sets that should appeal to kids while also meaning adults actually have a useful build for their displays instead of the spider-helicopter, and for the latter, who cares if you don't want the build, it's only $10 for the two figures!

The slow march to kill off soft goods has been a real issue for lego as a whole. I've been sounding the alarm on this for years, I remember when people said I was being ridiculous, but almost every character who would have had soft goods a decade ago now often relies on rubber (batman, thor, loki, strange- though I'll give them strange, and only strange, because his cape is meant to stand on it's own-, magneto, mysterio, hobgoblin, even the new superman in his releases outside the mech),  just prints (all clones with kamas, raimi goblin, arguably Endor Leia), or entirely missing (scarlet witch). But yes, in the case of the NWH final battle set, it's understandable they couldn't fit a soft goods part in there given how many new figures they had to make. Though I would have been OK if they'd omitted Ned and saved a print instead of giving him an exclusive torso.

3 hours ago, brickbride said:

You don't have to try and make Siberia sound bad, though. It just was bad. I lost all respect for Cap in that moment. And again there's no indication that he planned on any sort of rescue for Tony. Tony's a public figure, the fact that he did not die would be public as well, so his sending the phone afterwards means nothing.

Of course I approach these movies like a rational human being, and I don't quite think Marvel Studios does; potentially lethal fights between teammates seem to be just a sort of filler to them. Like Cap, Thor, and Iron Man getting into a three-way fight to the death in "The Avengers" for really no good reason, or the stupid airport battle in "Civil War" that against all odds ended with barely any casualties. (Or even the Guardians vs. Strange/Iron Man/Spidey on Titan, though that's my favourite and at least neither party had reason to believe the other would be on their side at first glance.)

You kind of do- you're omitting that the fight started with Tony trying to kill Bucky because he finds out that he killed his parents while brainwashed. The way you describe it is as if Cap and Bucky jump him when in reality Cap's just trying to prevent him from murdering his best friend. And while yes, there's no explicit onscreen scene of Cap seeing Panther or his jet, calling Ross, etc, between the fact that Tony's the guy with all the tech and plans and that Steve's constantly upheld as a paragon of morality, I don't think it's all that hard to assume he either saw T'challa or his jet, called Ross, or just reasonably assumed that Tony had a failsafe or backup in case of his suit being damaged.

To be fair, teammate fights are nothing unique to marvel studios, or marvel comics, or even superheroes- it's a pretty common trope in most action media. And while there are times when it's pretty stupid, the Avengers one seems fairly reasonable (This is a Thor who still doesn't understand earth well who's just abducted Loki from Shield custody against a still-learning-to-play-well-with-others Tony and a newly defrosted Cap. None of the three of them are in the right headspace or personality to be trying to peacefully resolve it at the time and it started with a guy they've never met before abducting the superhuman terrorist they just captured), as does the airport battle (Tony's team is trying to capture Steve's team- which is their legal duty under the sokovia accords- and Steve's team is trying to avoid being captured and make it to the hanger, because they don't want to go to jail and want to stop Zola from unleashing the other super-soldiers.)

[brickbride]

11 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

You kind of do- you're omitting that the fight started with Tony trying to kill Bucky because he finds out that he killed his parents while brainwashed. The way you describe it is as if Cap and Bucky jump him when in reality Cap's just trying to prevent him from murdering his best friend. And while yes, there's no explicit onscreen scene of Cap seeing Panther or his jet, calling Ross, etc, between the fact that Tony's the guy with all the tech and plans and that Steve's constantly upheld as a paragon of morality, I don't think it's all that hard to assume he either saw T'challa or his jet, called Ross, or just reasonably assumed that Tony had a failsafe or backup in case of his suit being damaged.

- Are we supposed to accept the brainwashing as an excuse then, and to think that Bucky really did nothing wrong? I'm asking because Marvel Studios cannot make up their minds on that. Half of TFATWS was Bucky having to apologize and make amends for crimes he'd committed while brainwashed. Why would he have to apologize and make amends if he were blameless? Bottom line is you cannot fault Tony for being angry at his parents' murderer and you cannot fault him for for holding Bucky responsible if Marvel Studios do it, too.

- Also Tony was Steve's teammate who'd saved his megablocks on more than one occasion, and Bucky had been his best friend a looooong time ago but had obviously changed since then. Yet you think Steve was in the right doing what he did? Again, this was not about incapacitating Tony so he couldn't kill Bucky based on possibly faulty or incomplete information (re: the brainwashing) and so they could then talk it over. Tony was already incapacitated! This was about revenge plain and simple. They quite happily would have killed him.

- Again you "assume" that Steve had anything to do with Tony's rescue but there's no indication whatsoever that he had. They could have shown a shot of his seeing the jet, of his calling anyone and saying something as simple as "Get him out", or even a quick convo with Bucky about how Tony surely had a plan in place. (And why would he have? Steve must have noticed that Tony was extremely distraught, not thinking clearly. That he didn't have a backup since otherwise he'd have deployed it already given the situation. And that he could not rely on others since, you know, his team leader had turned against him.) There is nothing to support your assumptions other than the general feeling of "Cap wouldn't do that". All the evidence on screen shows that, in fact, Cap would do exactly that.

- Add to that the facts that Steve had been extremely (and needlessly) antagonistic towards Tony from their first meeting onward. Also add that Steve was the leader of the Avengers. Also add that Steve is responsible for creating this mess in the first place because he knew that Bucky had murdered the Starks but had deliberately withheld that information from Tony, probably in the futile hope that Tony (the guy with all the tech!) wouldn't find out.

Bottom line: If Steve had acted like the leader of the Avengers that he's supposed to be, and had addressed the issue previously, the entire mess could have been avoided. If Steve had acted like any halfway decent person and teammate (I'm not even going into the "paragon of morality" thing) he'd have stopped at incapacitating Tony but not actually left him to die. He also never apologized for either of these failings. YMMV of course but like I've said this made me lose all respect for Steve.

Edited December 13, 2025 by brickbride

[Coryo]

13 hours ago, brickbride said:

Tony was already incapacitated! This was about revenge plain and simple. They quite happily would have killed him.

Steve and Bucky just simply walked away after incapacitating Tony's armour, that doesn't come across as particularly vengeful. It's not like they left him critically injured, and his suit did still have some semblance of mobility. This is someone who could hack the A/V system of a supermax prison with three presses of his watch, I doubt he was ever in any real danger of being stranded in Siberia, plus he was shown to be carrying a phone prior to his helicopter suit-up.

While Tony's immediate anger in that moment was kind of understandable, I wouldn't hold Bucky accountable for anything he did while brainwashed, and I doubt Marvel does either. One of the goals of his apology tour in the D+ show was to rehabilitate his in-universe public image by creating a clear division between the two personas, although he did also feel a degree of personal guilt since he retained his memories from that time despite not being in control. His role was fairly undercooked though, the main storyline was about Sam coming into the Cap role, and Bucky's subplot was about distancing himself from the Winter Soldier persona, yet the finale's end title card read "Captain America and The Winter Soldier", which really puts into perspective how much of an afterthought Bucky's whole plotline was.