Marvel Superheroes 2025 - Rumors & Discussion

[JohnTPT17]

20 minutes ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Movie watchers will not recognize half of them and a few will confuse them so much because they're so different from when they were last in the movies. 

To be fair, both people who watched Wandavision, and those who didn't watch Wandavision were confused by Scarlet Witch's character in MoM. So who knows what they're actually going to do?

[brickbride]

Honestly, if the new leader is the person who's in two of those concept art shots, he's a good choice. (Unless he's written by the same people who wrote Thor 4, then no, just no.) He even has leadership experience of a very diverse group! And more importantly he's fun. Falconcap isn't fun - Captain America wasn't much fun either but that's why we had Iron Man to rile him up.

In general: Unless the new Avengers still have Dr Strange, Star-Lord, and/or Captain Marvel (I think Brie Larson did an excellent job with the character though apparently I'm in the minority) in any significant capacity, I'm not interested. The only ones among the younger replacements who are halfway tolerable are Kamala, (less so) Kate, and Billy, and I mean just that - halfway tolerable. Not someone whose problems and fate I'm truly invested in.

I'd also take Loki or Agatha any day.

Edited March 2 by brickbride

[Lego_ofme]

I’m sure the Russos will get a good Avengers team together bashed together from Spiderman, existing and new characters from tv and movies. And if it sucks MCU is dead anyway. It’s already been said Tom Holland has conflicts but it doesn’t matter as he’s only there when he is unmasked - rest of time time it’s doubles (like Pedro in Mandalorian).

 

I would be quite happy with some of those from the images from a Lego figure standpoint. Wiccan, Doop etc. I need new minifigures and existing characters with entirely new costumes and frankly so does Lego to stop the churning out the same generic figures (e.g. yesterdays Endgame horror show). I’ve got almost all the Marvel minifigures ever released and annually now there’s less and less new. X-mansion and fantastic four (and hopefully SpiderVERSE CMF) this year are only real major additions after the last few years of poor sets and limited new minifigs (and to be fair not particularly inspiring MCU content).

[THELEGOBATMAN]

10 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

And of course the minifig choices are pretty lame, but we‘ve known that for a while. Meh. The only good things about this set are the Ant-Man and Iron Spider minifigs, the broken shield, having extra heads & hairpieces for some of the characters, and the portals. 

I'd argue that all of the positives you've listed are still the downsides of this set...

New Ant-Man? Without leg and arm printing and that awful helmet piece, it's still a bad minifigure. New Spider-Man? Remember the times when MCU Spider-Man got arm and leg printing? Yeah, good times. The "broken shield"? More like scratched-printing shield.

Extra heads? Sure, but they look nothing like the characters they are trying to portray. What were they thinking with that choice for Tom Holland... and it's not like he needed exclusive moulds or prints. T'Challa isn't better. They are also very pick-and-choosy about it—Spider-Man and Black Panther get ones, but Ant-Man and Falcon don't (I assume there are hairpieces for Iron Man and Cap).

The portals, frankly, look awful with all the connectors around them—just as the whole set does. A huge grey baseplate.

[JohnTPT17]

There's a new interview on Brickset going into some of the decision choices on the Marvel logo. Apparently Hawkeye was skipped due to his bow - but, in that case, I think people would have been okay with using something more compact like the Avatar bow, or just skipping the bow entirely. Skipping out on a minifigure just because their accessory could be finnicky is a little silly IMO. They also discuss Cap's grey arms - I don't remember if that is one of the issues people had with that minifigure or not, though.

[Lego Nostalgia]

3 hours ago, JohnTPT17 said:

There's a new interview on Brickset going into some of the decision choices on the Marvel logo. Apparently Hawkeye was skipped due to his bow - but, in that case, I think people would have been okay with using something more compact like the Avatar bow, or just skipping the bow entirely. Skipping out on a minifigure just because their accessory could be finnicky is a little silly IMO. They also discuss Cap's grey arms - I don't remember if that is one of the issues people had with that minifigure or not, though.

Now that's funny, they probably had no intention of putting Hawkeye in the set but had to say that to please us

[Mandalorianknight]

15 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Most people are predicting Spider-Man as the lead. But I agree, I don't know if that would be feasible with his schedule. I don't think he has many MCU movies left in his contract anyway.

if you're referring to who I think you're referring to, I think he makes the most sense to be the new lead as a legacy character played by the most famous actor still left in the main cast.

But looking at the pics, I see a potential issue that has already plagued previous MCU movies. Way too many Disney+ characters. Movie watchers will not recognize half of them and a few will confuse them so much because they're so different from when they were last in the movies. 

Yeah, just because he's their only real popular option, but at the same time if he can't show up to set he can't be the star. This isn't Mando, they can't just plop a stunt double down for most of the movie.

Yeah. Out of the people who can realistically be the lead he's the only choice (besides if Tom Holland starts working 24/7), but even then I don't think he's a good choice to be the star of Avengers 5, just the best one they have.

14 hours ago, JohnTPT17 said:

To be fair, both people who watched Wandavision, and those who didn't watch Wandavision were confused by Scarlet Witch's character in MoM. So who knows what they're actually going to do?

Am I missing something? Did she come back? Isn't she dead?

I don't think doomsday is going to start with Dr. Strange pulling her out of the rubble of the castle and going "wow Wanda it's a miracle you survived that". Obviously it's marvel and nobody really dies until they want to stop playing the character, but at the same time they're not just going to plop her back on the team with no buildup.

11 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

New Ant-Man? Without leg and arm printing and that awful helmet piece, it's still a bad minifigure. New Spider-Man? Remember the times when MCU Spider-Man got arm and leg printing? Yeah, good times. The "broken shield"? More like scratched-printing shield.

Extra heads? Sure, but they look nothing like the characters they are trying to portray. What were they thinking with that choice for Tom Holland... and it's not like he needed exclusive moulds or prints. T'Challa isn't better. They are also very pick-and-choosy about it—Spider-Man and Black Panther get ones, but Ant-Man and Falcon don't (I assume there are hairpieces for Iron Man and Cap).

The portals, frankly, look awful with all the connectors around them—just as the whole set does. A huge grey baseplate.

Don't hate the helmet piece but it is crazy that he had leg printing on previous minifigures and they took it away. And Spider-Man's had a rough time of too, same with the broken shield- honestly at that point just include the normal shield and let people cut it up with scissors because this attempt doesn't make the shield look broken but now it can't even be used as a normal one.

Why would Falcon need an alternate head/hair? Just for no goggles? Agree about ant man though, especially since he and Peter will probably end up sharing the same head again (one that doesn't fit either of them).

4 hours ago, JohnTPT17 said:

There's a new interview on Brickset going into some of the decision choices on the Marvel logo. Apparently Hawkeye was skipped due to his bow - but, in that case, I think people would have been okay with using something more compact like the Avatar bow, or just skipping the bow entirely. Skipping out on a minifigure just because their accessory could be finnicky is a little silly IMO. They also discuss Cap's grey arms - I don't remember if that is one of the issues people had with that minifigure or not, though.

Yeah that's either a BS answer or the skill level of their designers have plummeted. You're telling me it was just too hard to get the bow to work so you cut the full minifigure? Sure....

(If this was the only reason it'd be the perfect opportunity for them to have finally made Ronin and just given him a sword- but again, that's clearly not the real reason.)

[cosmic]

On 2/25/2025 at 8:00 PM, calebcold3 said:

Who said that we weren't getting a D2C this year? That's pretty big news but it's ok. At least my wallet for my LEGO budget this year is safe. I think next year they'll do a D2C Avengers Mansion (With the comic based figures). 

Also, The Spider Verse CMF seems fine to me. I'll def be attempting to complete the whole series but some of the choices like Sun Spider and Cyborg Spider Woman are head scratching. 

 

Keep in mind, that Avengers Mansion was the base for the Avengers for most of classic Marvel History, the use of Stark Tower is more modern. Meaning an Avengers Mansion would do best with classic members of the Avengers. Thor, Hawkeye, Ant-Man, and Scarlet Witch would all need new moulds, not to mention Captain America would do best with a new mould to represent the winged cap he bore in the comics. I think a comic based CMF series would be needed to get these moulds introduced, then the set would probably have the same characters with no leg printing, lack of dual molding and select accessories, think Storm/Wolverine in the X-Mansion. 

Aside from a CMF series to introduce the characters who would need new pieces, we'd also need a wave or two introducing characters who will spill into the D2C. Think Black Widow, Iron Man, classic Hulk, Vision or even Wasp, who I could see getting made with no new pieces. Ideally the Mansion would then have obscure legacy heroes such as Hercules, Namor, Tigra, etc as exclusive variants. But all this to say, if done properly, we'd need a few things such as a cmd series and a wave or two to get a proper Mansion. I just don't see that happening by Summer of next year, unless they rush everything else on to the Winter wave. As mentioned before, I think all signs point to a Spiderman based D2C given the heavy focus on him throughout this year.

On 2/25/2025 at 5:30 PM, JeanGreyForever said:

I wonder if it's Marvel that doesn't want a CMF series based on the comics, since they'd rather promote their new TV shows, or if it's Lego that feels the comic versions wouldn't be really relevant.

The Classic Thor we did got was a horrible minifigure, even for the time it came out in. Lego Avengers features a proper Classic Thor with the Ragnarok character who had the molded helmet and hair. I'd like to see a version like that. But he's another perfect example of a minifigure that wouldn't really be done justice outside of a CMF series.

Rebrickable has a MOC upgrade for the X-Jet which I think can end up fitting 10 minifigures inside instead of the original 4.

I do not think Marvel or Lego have been avoiding the comic based CMF series at all. I believe its just been a matter of timing. With the Disney + shows being fresh and new during the release of Series 1, it can be inferred that many of these shows would not be seen as profitable enough to warrant a set (at least before they launched, in hindsight I'm sure a Wandavision set would sell well/decently), but knowing the characters would be desirable and influential in the coming MCU projects. it just made sense to congregate them into a cmf series since that first wave of Disney + shows brought with it a wave of new designs that TLG had to acknowledge somehow.

As for CMF Series 2, it can actually be argued that 1/3 of the series was comic/cartoon accurate. Beast, Wolverine and Storm are the first obvious 3 that were not based on live action MCU source material, but rather the 97 cartoon. But I now feel confident in saying Werewolf by Night is not based off of the MCU. The noir movie naturally had him greyed out, but concept art and online images suggest he had ripped blue dress pants in the live action special, but the green pants are accurate to his comic debut. yes his bloodstone accessory is MCU accurate, but Werewolf by Nights outfit was undeniably comic based The means 4/12 figures in Series 2 were comic adjacent and not based off of a live action property.

That was long winded but all this to say, we have already gotten traces of comic based figures in a CMF setting. As the Disney + shows settle down and become less significant, time will clear the way for us to be able to have a completely comic based series. I think they are open to it, it just hasn't been the right time yet.

[Lego Nostalgia]

Scarlet Witch didn't die, there was a tiny bit of red light just before the rocks hit her, she survived I'm sure, no way someone as powerful as her dies from a rock besides Superman

She might become Doom's Wife due to leaks, she is def appearing in both Avengers films or just one, she's very popular and IMO one of the best female MCU characters besides Black Widow

[Kaijumeister]

What’s annoying about the constant Endgame battle sets is none of them really hit the mark and that first attempt in 2021 still remains the best. I remember being annoyed at how inaccurate Thor looked back then but compared to the shortcuts this theme takes now? It’s nothing in comparison.

All of them compromise extensively on the minifigures and builds, and we get constant iterations of the scene because the Lego Marvel team can’t be bothered to put some actual effort in to produce a definitive set that represents the scene and its characters well. Last year’s large AoU set wasn’t perfect, but can anyone say it doesn’t capture the scene well? Not to mention:

- Still no Ronin.

- Still no Smart Hulk.

- Still no helmeted Thanos.

- Still no completely detailed Captain America with dual moulded arms / legs with printing (at this point, even asking for a movie-accurate costume is too much).

- Still no accurate Thor. The list goes on and on - I wouldn’t be surprised if this summer’s Endgame expansion set just reuses the AoU Thor variant.

Honestly as much as people rightfully lament the lack of character representation from that battle, I would be more than happy if they did a definitive Endgame battle set of the big 3 against a helmeted Thanos without any skimping on detail for the minifigures and a solid build. Heck, bolster it with some well thought out expansion sets to bolster the characters, portals etc. Even if it spans a few years.

We know the designers are perfectly capable of creating desirable minifigures and builds in this theme, but it’s either laziness or extreme budget cutting at this point. Some of these sets look like have so little thought or effort put into them, yet they’re still priced as if they’re premium product. 

< Bee Movie guy ranting in courtroom.gif >

Edited March 2 by Kaijumeister

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, cosmic said:

Keep in mind, that Avengers Mansion was the base for the Avengers for most of classic Marvel History, the use of Stark Tower is more modern. Meaning an Avengers Mansion would do best with classic members of the Avengers. Thor, Hawkeye, Ant-Man, and Scarlet Witch would all need new moulds, not to mention Captain America would do best with a new mould to represent the winged cap he bore in the comics. I think a comic based CMF series would be needed to get these moulds introduced, then the set would probably have the same characters with no leg printing, lack of dual molding and select accessories, think Storm/Wolverine in the X-Mansion. 

As for CMF Series 2, it can actually be argued that 1/3 of the series was comic/cartoon accurate. Beast, Wolverine and Storm are the first obvious 3 that were not based on live action MCU source material, but rather the 97 cartoon. But I now feel confident in saying Werewolf by Night is not based off of the MCU. The noir movie naturally had him greyed out, but concept art and online images suggest he had ripped blue dress pants in the live action special, but the green pants are accurate to his comic debut. yes his bloodstone accessory is MCU accurate, but Werewolf by Nights outfit was undeniably comic based The means 4/12 figures in Series 2 were comic adjacent and not based off of a live action property.

I've been advocating for the Mansion since Oscorp was removed as an option. I would be very excited to see one.

I wouldn't say that. The '97 characters were based on the '97 series, not the comics specifically. They look pretty much indistinguishable, but they're based on '97. It'd be like saying What If spider-man is a theme park based character. The design is pretty much the same, but we all know he's based on what if. As for Werewolf by Night, I think it's significantly more likely that lego just... got a different piece of concept art than what ended up being in the color version of the special than that they intentionally changed the colors of an MCU figure's pants. (And it's still the MCU bloodstone- I think it's pretty clear it's an MCU figure who just happened to be based on concept art.)

2 hours ago, Lego Nostalgia said:

Scarlet Witch didn't die, there was a tiny bit of red light just before the rocks hit her, she survived I'm sure

Yeah sure she's probably still alive in the "nobody dies in comics" way but they did kill the character off, this is splitting hairs. My point is that whether she's resurrected or just revealed to have survived, they aren't going to just plop her in an avengers movie out of nowhere. Usually there's at least some fanfare to bringing back a dead character.

12 minutes ago, Kaijumeister said:

What’s annoying about the constant Endgame battle sets is none of them really hit the mark and that first attempt in 2021 still remains the best. I remember being annoyed at how inaccurate Thor looked back then but compared to the shortcuts this theme takes now? It’s nothing in comparison.

All of them compromise extensively on the minifigures and builds, and we get constant iterations of the scene because the Lego Marvel team can’t be bothered to put some actual effort in to produce a definitive set that represents the scene and its characters well. Last year’s large AoU set wasn’t perfect, but can anyone say it doesn’t capture the scene well? Not to mention:

- Still no Ronin.

- Still no Smart Hulk.

- Still no helmeted Thanos.

- Still no completely detailed Captain America with dual moulded arms / legs with printing (at this point, even asking for a movie-accurate costume is too much).

- Still no accurate Thor. The list goes on and on - I wouldn’t be surprised if this summer’s Endgame expansion set just reuses the AoU Thor variant.

Exactly (I'm still kicking myself for not ponying up for that 2021 endgame set...)

It is really strange to me that they're obsessed with recreating the endgame finale yet simultaneously allergic to all the stuff we actually want from it. And that they keep just doing the compound or rubble when there are still vehicles they could do- even putting aside the manned stuff that's from more obscure factions like the Sakaaran ships or Ravager flying bikes, why are we not getting the Chitauri vehicles? They did a Leviathan recently (even if a bigger one would be nice) but the chitauri had hovertanks. They wanted Falcon in the set, what about the only shot of him fighting that I remember, where he stabs a big gorilla thing? Where are the chitauri gorillas, lego? Was rubble more interesting to kids in the playtesting?

 

I was lucky enough that lego sent me the Spider-Verse deli for free, and I have to say aside from the price it really is a nice set. The car is well made and it's just nice to see more civilian things in general in this theme. I also like that Miles's face print has the shoulda touch face, that's a funny detail. My only gripes from the set aside from the price would be that ATSV Miles's minifigure is so odd I'm wondering if they deliberately sabotaged it to have a more accurate one in the CMF. It looks like he's wearing the Blue Beetle. As for the price, I feel like I'd be able to stomach $50 if they either significantly beefed up the bodega and added the owner, or added a street lamp and hex portal with a well-detailed 2099.

I will say I think it's unlikely Peter's apartment is meant to go on top of the deli. The deli has a 6x14 rooftop footprint. Either that apartment is tiny, or it's gonna have crazy overhang/the set falls over when combined.

 

[Lego Nostalgia]

If Ronin was in that Portal set then I would have forgiven Lego

[cosmic]

5 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I've been advocating for the Mansion since Oscorp was removed as an option. I would be very excited to see one.

I wouldn't say that. The '97 characters were based on the '97 series, not the comics specifically. They look pretty much indistinguishable, but they're based on '97. It'd be like saying What If spider-man is a theme park based character. The design is pretty much the same, but we all know he's based on what if. As for Werewolf by Night, I think it's significantly more likely that lego just... got a different piece of concept art than what ended up being in the color version of the special than that they intentionally changed the colors of an MCU figure's pants. (And it's still the MCU bloodstone- I think it's pretty clear it's an MCU figure who just happened to be based on concept art.)

To be fair I did say comic adjacent. The cartoon designs are very close to what was worn in the comics, its in close proximity. I actually think Beast is 100% comic and cartoon accurate. And while it may have been misleading concept art, it doesn't change the fact that it resulted in a Werewolf that could at the very least be used in comic accurate settings and displays. all this to say, I do think Lego is open to not just comic, but cartoon, and with the Spiderverse CMF, animated movie sources of inspiration for CMF Series. The initial comment's sentiment is that, whether comic or cartoon, its all semantics really, I do think TLG is open to producing CMF figures like this, but that it needs to be the right time. That we've seen glimpses of that so far. I feel confident in due time we'll get a Marvel CMF Series exclusively comprised of highly sought after designs. Fingers crossed it gets more than 12 slots.

[mrcngrck]

as we got Ant-man mech instead of  Giant-man in this set, I hope that we will get Galactus mech in the FF4 set

[Mister_Loki]

8 minutes ago, mrcngrck said:

as we got Ant-man mech instead of  Giant-man in this set, I hope that we will get Galactus mech in the FF4 set

That would unironically go hard. Whatever gets us our first Galactus minifigure, I'll take a mech over nothing if we ever get him.

[Kaijumeister]

13 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

It is really strange to me that they're obsessed with recreating the endgame finale yet simultaneously allergic to all the stuff we actually want from it. And that they keep just doing the compound or rubble when there are still vehicles they could do- even putting aside the manned stuff that's from more obscure factions like the Sakaaran ships or Ravager flying bikes, why are we not getting the Chitauri vehicles? They did a Leviathan recently (even if a bigger one would be nice) but the chitauri had hovertanks. They wanted Falcon in the set, what about the only shot of him fighting that I remember, where he stabs a big gorilla thing? Where are the chitauri gorillas, lego? Was rubble more interesting to kids in the playtesting?

Agreed on all points. ‘It’s just rubble’ is a poor excuse and a short sighted one too when looking at the Endgame battle. There’s so much to that scene that would make for cool builds like you’ve already pointed out, and I’d personally relegate small rubble builds to act as stands for minifigures if nothing else. 

Fingers crossed the summer wave isn’t so lazily done as what we’ve seen so far. It’s been encouraging to see LAN members tear the Endgame set apart, hopefully the Lego Marvel team take the right lessons from it moving forward. 

[brickbride]

14 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yeah sure she's probably still alive in the "nobody dies in comics" way but they did kill the character off, this is splitting hairs. My point is that whether she's resurrected or just revealed to have survived, they aren't going to just plop her in an avengers movie out of nowhere. Usually there's at least some fanfare to bringing back a dead character.

Honestly, bringing her back is another terrible, terrible idea (notwithstanding Elizabeth Olsen's top-notch acting). Wanda's multiversal rampage in "Dr Strange 2" just so she could be with her children already didn't cast her in the best light then (and made no sense in light of "Wandavision" where she'd accepted their loss and was much more focused on VIsion anyway), but it was mitigated by her sacrificing herself in order to destroy all copies of the Darkhold - an evil greater than her own countless murders.

THEN we learned in "Agatha All Along" that the entire multiversal rampage was utterly pointless since she could have achieved her goal much, much more easily and far, far closer to home without any bloodshed (not sure how much I'm allowed to say here because spoilers), making her look pretty stupid and even more evil in retrospect. And THEN we learn (which was already implied in "Agatha All Along) that she didn't really sacrifice herself at all? Way to ruin a good character is all I'm saying.

Edited March 3 by brickbride

[Mandalorianknight]

11 hours ago, cosmic said:

To be fair I did say comic adjacent. The cartoon designs are very close to what was worn in the comics, its in close proximity. I actually think Beast is 100% comic and cartoon accurate. And while it may have been misleading concept art, it doesn't change the fact that it resulted in a Werewolf that could at the very least be used in comic accurate settings and displays. all this to say, I do think Lego is open to not just comic, but cartoon, and with the Spiderverse CMF, animated movie sources of inspiration for CMF Series. The initial comment's sentiment is that, whether comic or cartoon, its all semantics really, I do think TLG is open to producing CMF figures like this, but that it needs to be the right time. That we've seen glimpses of that so far. I feel confident in due time we'll get a Marvel CMF Series exclusively comprised of highly sought after designs. Fingers crossed it gets more than 12 slots.

Sure, but my point is just that regardless of how they look, they were based on onscreen media. With how accurate a lot of these costumes get, I don't think the issue is something with the look of the comic costumes, I think it's that disney/lego wants the CMF to tie into new/upcoming projects. I'd love a comic based CMF but we're now 3 for 3 on them being based on recent onscreen media for marvel.

4 hours ago, Kaijumeister said:

Agreed on all points. ‘It’s just rubble’ is a poor excuse and a short sighted one too when looking at the Endgame battle. There’s so much to that scene that would make for cool builds like you’ve already pointed out, and I’d personally relegate small rubble builds to act as stands for minifigures if nothing else. 

Exactly. It's deeply ironic too- the theme that feels the need to make every other set a spider-man car instead of involving new york locations makes a set based on a scene with plenty of vehicles and large creatures, and decides to make grey rubble.

3 hours ago, brickbride said:

Honestly, bringing her back is another terrible, terrible idea (notwithstanding Elizabeth Olsen's top-notch acting). Wanda's multiversal rampage in "Dr Strange 2" just so she could be with her children already didn't cast her in the best light then (and made no sense in light of "Wandavision" where she'd accepted their loss and was much more focused on VIsion anyway), but it was mitigated by her sacrificing herself in order to destroy all copies of the Darkhold - an evil greater than her own countless murders.

THEN we learned in "Agatha All Along" that the entire multiversal rampage was utterly pointless since she could have achieved her goal much, much more easily and far, far closer to home without any bloodshed (not sure how much I'm allowed to say here because spoilers), making her look pretty stupid and even more evil in retrospect. And THEN we learn (which was already implied in "Agatha All Along) that she didn't really sacrifice herself at all? Way to ruin a good character is all I'm saying.

Yeah I have no idea what the plan was with all that, she comes off much worse in wandavision than I think was intended, and then obviously she's straight up evil in MoM. It's the parallax thing all over again, and should have been solved the same way- they just have Dr. Strange find out in MoM that in the grief of having to destroy the hex, Cython possessed her. But as with parallax, doing it after the fact feels cheap.

[JeanGreyForever]

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Yeah I have no idea what the plan was with all that, she comes off much worse in wandavision than I think was intended, and then obviously she's straight up evil in MoM. It's the parallax thing all over again, and should have been solved the same way- they just have Dr. Strange find out in MoM that in the grief of having to destroy the hex, Cython possessed her. But as with parallax, doing it after the fact feels cheap.

Wasn't MoM written before WandaVision even came out? Or at the very least, I think the writers for MoM never consulted the writers of WandaVision which is why Wanda was promptly villainized again. Out of all the characters Marvel has pushed since Endgame, the only one who legitimately became a fan favorite and became a part of pop culture was Wanda. Especially since her show benefited from being the first Disney+ MCU show and debuted during COVID when everyone was at home and had a chance to stream. The fact that Marvel killed off their most popular new character in years seems so ludicrous, especially based on their focus on Captain Marvel, Falcon, and everyone else. I'm sure the rumors that Marvel is trying to bring her back with her own movie are true, although I doubt she'll be able to be incorporated into Secret Wars.

On 3/2/2025 at 4:25 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

I've been advocating for the Mansion since Oscorp was removed as an option. I would be very excited to see one.

I think the Mansion's biggest difficulty is that it overlaps with both Avengers Tower and the X-Mansion right now.

On 3/2/2025 at 1:52 PM, Lego Nostalgia said:

She might become Doom's Wife due to leaks, she is def appearing in both Avengers films or just one, she's very popular and IMO one of the best female MCU characters besides Black Widow

Didn't know about this but hope this is true. It makes sense because in Avengers: Children's Crusade, which brought Wanda back into the comics after many years of being in limbo, we find out that she was secretly living with Doom in his castle and engaged to marry him. I don't know if the MCU Doom will be magical or not, but it would make sense that he'd be interested in Wanda for her power. She's also the only popular MCU heroine left. I think Black Widow lost a lot of appeal after being killed off and her solo movie just being so-so while Captain Marvel failed to take off completely. I doubt She-Hulk will be able to fit that slot as the top MCU heroine.

On 3/2/2025 at 1:14 PM, cosmic said:

Keep in mind, that Avengers Mansion was the base for the Avengers for most of classic Marvel History, the use of Stark Tower is more modern. Meaning an Avengers Mansion would do best with classic members of the Avengers. Thor, Hawkeye, Ant-Man, and Scarlet Witch would all need new moulds, not to mention Captain America would do best with a new mould to represent the winged cap he bore in the comics. I think a comic based CMF series would be needed to get these moulds introduced, then the set would probably have the same characters with no leg printing, lack of dual molding and select accessories, think Storm/Wolverine in the X-Mansion. 

Aside from a CMF series to introduce the characters who would need new pieces, we'd also need a wave or two introducing characters who will spill into the D2C. Think Black Widow, Iron Man, classic Hulk, Vision or even Wasp, who I could see getting made with no new pieces. Ideally the Mansion would then have obscure legacy heroes such as Hercules, Namor, Tigra, etc as exclusive variants. But all this to say, if done properly, we'd need a few things such as a cmd series and a wave or two to get a proper Mansion. I just don't see that happening by Summer of next year, unless they rush everything else on to the Winter wave. As mentioned before, I think all signs point to a Spiderman based D2C given the heavy focus on him throughout this year.

This is the other reason I see an Avengers Mansion being very unlikely anytime soon. Avengers Tower could recycle about 20 or so existing minifigures, but there's basically nobody ready to be used in an Avengers Mansion set. All the comic book versions of the classic team would require new molds like you said. At best, we'd get something like the X-Mansion with maybe 10 very bare-basic minifigures with no dual molding, leg printing, and probably not even any inventive new molds. I can see Scarlet Witch getting her MCU tiara headpiece recolored rather than a more comic accurate mold. Thor probably wouldn't even get his helmet but just the standard long hair.

[poisonbricks]

I also think an Avengers Mansion would be unlikely just because it's ANOTHER superhero mansion. It's more recent and obscure, but if they were doing a big Avengers comic themed D2C, I'd sooner expect Avengers Mountain or something, it's just more interesting compared to the other options and doesn't overlap directly with another set concept.

I don't really think new molds would be an obstacle though - Hawkeye, sure, but a lot of these characters don't need specialised elements at all, and the ones who do have existing ones that'd be fine with a new print/ recolour (Cap cowl, Invincible Iron Man helmet, Wanda's crown)

Realistically though, I'd expect a large MCU compound 😭

[brickbride]

3 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

Out of all the characters Marvel has pushed since Endgame, the only one who legitimately became a fan favorite and became a part of pop culture was Wanda.

What about Loki? I have yet to meet anyone who didn't like his series (whereas Wandavision was overrated if you ask me). And unlike Wanda he's shown some real character development that hasn't then been immediately negated. So far at least.

3 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

She's also the only popular MCU heroine left. I think Black Widow lost a lot of appeal after being killed off and her solo movie just being so-so while Captain Marvel failed to take off completely. I doubt She-Hulk will be able to fit that slot as the top MCU heroine.

I'm so over that "Captain Marvel is a box office failure" narrative some people are pushing. Her solo movie is still in the top ten grossing MCU movies ever. Sure, "The Marvels" bombed, but why do people put the blame for that on her instead of Kamala or Monica or, you know, the fact that "The Marvels" was immediately preceded by "Secret Invasion"?

That said, I don't disagree that Wanda is one of the MCU's more popular characters, and probably the most popular female (a fairly easy feat given how much screentime she's had compared to most everyone else and just how few female main characters there are in the MCU to begin with). But it doesn't change the fact that by now she's been painted as an utter villain, and a stupid one at that. Her death was her only redemptive action amongst a bunch of stupid, needlessly villainous choices (and let's face it Wanda was never one for smart or moral choices to begin with, see her and Pietro joining Hydra in the first place). If they retcon that and possibly even try to present her as a good guy again (because she's popular) I don't think it'll work. It's not enough for Marvel to bring back their more popular characters IMO, they should also take a long hard look at them and ask themselves questions like "Does the audience still have a reason to like this person if we bring them back?", and in Wanda's case for me the answer is no.

Of course that is probably wishful thinking on my part. It's entirely more likely that Marvel will just go "Whee! Aren't you glad your favourite Wanda is back? Please ignore how she butchered most of the Kamar-Taj wizards in her efforts to murder a child and before that mind-controlled an entire city, and go and buy all our Wanda merchandise! Oh, and be excited about our new Avengers movies which run on the premise of 'No-one but Tony Stark ever dies for real'!!!"

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1 hour ago, poisonbricks said:

I also think an Avengers Mansion would be unlikely just because it's ANOTHER superhero mansion. It's more recent and obscure, but if they were doing a big Avengers comic themed D2C, I'd sooner expect Avengers Mountain or something, it's just more interesting compared to the other options and doesn't overlap directly with another set concept.

I don't really think new molds would be an obstacle though - Hawkeye, sure, but a lot of these characters don't need specialised elements at all, and the ones who do have existing ones that'd be fine with a new print/ recolour (Cap cowl, Invincible Iron Man helmet, Wanda's crown)

Realistically though, I'd expect a large MCU compound 😭

I don't actually know that an avengers mansion build would look all that similar to the X-mansion. Like sure they're both mansions but that's about it. The Avengers Mansion has had enough different versions that you could avoid using the same colors, and the structure is often a pretty different shape due to it's city location, more in line with the geometry of a standard modular than the X-mansion.

Agreed that new molds wouldn't be an issue- Hawkeye's really the only one who would need one, maybe Quicksilver's hair?

Wouldn't a MCU avengers compound have if anything a larger overlap issue than the mansion? Not only is it a number of the same characters, it's the same versions of the characters in similar or the same costumes. 

3 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

This is the other reason I see an Avengers Mansion being very unlikely anytime soon. Avengers Tower could recycle about 20 or so existing minifigures, but there's basically nobody ready to be used in an Avengers Mansion set. All the comic book versions of the classic team would require new molds like you said. At best, we'd get something like the X-Mansion with maybe 10 very bare-basic minifigures with no dual molding, leg printing, and probably not even any inventive new molds. I can see Scarlet Witch getting her MCU tiara headpiece recolored rather than a more comic accurate mold. Thor probably wouldn't even get his helmet but just the standard long hair.

I'm not saying we're secretly getting one in november. The idea would be a January wave with a number of comic-based avengers sets would lead up to it, similarly to how the Bugle used a lot of spider man characters from sets released slightly earlier. I'm also not saying that I think it for sure WILL happen, just that I'd like it to and think there's at least some chance.

1 hour ago, brickbride said:

the fact that "The Marvels" was immediately preceded by "Secret Invasion"?

Because for Secret Invasion to have an impact people would have to have watched it.  (But seriously- do you really think enough people watched and hated secret invasion for it to tank the franchise that much? If you really think the first one got to $1.1 billion purely on it's own merits, how would that have gone down to a quarter because of Secret Invasion unless secret invasion secretly got a TON of views.)

1 hour ago, brickbride said:

I'm so over that "Captain Marvel is a box office failure" narrative some people are pushing. Her solo movie is still in the top ten grossing MCU movies ever. Sure, "The Marvels" bombed, but why do people put the blame for that on her instead of Kamala or Monica or, you know, the fact that "The Marvels" was immediately preceded by "Secret Invasion"?

It also came out immediately before the second highest grossing movie ever made and was marketed with the implication that Captain Marvel would be important in Endgame. You cannot take external factors into account for the second film's failure but ignore them for the first film's success. I also doubt that everybody loved captain marvel, but then saw Monica or Ms. Marvel and went "yeah no I hate this side character so much that I'm not gonna watch the movie."

If everybody loved Brie's Captain Marvel, people would have shown up for the movie. It would never have made as much as the first one since it wasn't immediately before endgame, but it wouldn't have been the biggest flop in the MCU.

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12 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I don't actually know that an avengers mansion build would look all that similar to the X-mansion. Like sure they're both mansions but that's about it. The Avengers Mansion has had enough different versions that you could avoid using the same colors, and the structure is often a pretty different shape due to it's city location, more in line with the geometry of a standard modular than the X-mansion.

Wouldn't a MCU avengers compound have if anything a larger overlap issue than the mansion? Not only is it a number of the same characters, it's the same versions of the characters in similar or the same costumes. 

I agree that they're not THAT similar, but I'm not sure that the average consumer would see the difference - and I'm not sure (although I obviously don't have sales data on this) that hardcore fans can entirely carry the sales of even a big D2C. Doesn't help that Avengers Mansion hasn't really been prominent in much media in the recent past (not that Avengers Mountain has been outside the comics, but it's more different, and I think there's a chance that the MCU celestial island takes that role?)

I would agree on the compound if LEGO weren't absolutely obsessed with the Endgame final battle haha 

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4 hours ago, poisonbricks said:

I don't really think new molds would be an obstacle though - Hawkeye, sure, but a lot of these characters don't need specialised elements at all, and the ones who do have existing ones that'd be fine with a new print/ recolour (Cap cowl, Invincible Iron Man helmet, Wanda's crown)

Cap's classic comic look has always had wings both sides of his mask. That's not a problem in modern iterations of the character, like the MCU, but his classic look can't be replicated without the wings. His previous classic minifigure really doesn't look classic at all just because of those missing wings. It just looks like his MCU version in a brighter blue. Thor would need a molded helmet and long hair piece. His previous "classic" minifigure just used the same hair his movie minifig used to use. Exactly what I would expect Lego to do even today, to not make the effort. Quicksilver would need his iconic hairstyle. Ant-Man with his classic helmet. 

4 hours ago, brickbride said:

What about Loki? I have yet to meet anyone who didn't like his series (whereas Wandavision was overrated if you ask me). And unlike Wanda he's shown some real character development that hasn't then been immediately negated. So far at least.

I'm so over that "Captain Marvel is a box office failure" narrative some people are pushing. Her solo movie is still in the top ten grossing MCU movies ever. Sure, "The Marvels" bombed, but why do people put the blame for that on her instead of Kamala or Monica or, you know, the fact that "The Marvels" was immediately preceded by "Secret Invasion"?

That said, I don't disagree that Wanda is one of the MCU's more popular characters, and probably the most popular female (a fairly easy feat given how much screentime she's had compared to most everyone else and just how few female main characters there are in the MCU to begin with). But it doesn't change the fact that by now she's been painted as an utter villain, and a stupid one at that. Her death was her only redemptive action amongst a bunch of stupid, needlessly villainous choices (and let's face it Wanda was never one for smart or moral choices to begin with, see her and Pietro joining Hydra in the first place). If they retcon that and possibly even try to present her as a good guy again (because she's popular) I don't think it'll work. It's not enough for Marvel to bring back their more popular characters IMO, they should also take a long hard look at them and ask themselves questions like "Does the audience still have a reason to like this person if we bring them back?", and in Wanda's case for me the answer is no.

Of course that is probably wishful thinking on my part. It's entirely more likely that Marvel will just go "Whee! Aren't you glad your favourite Wanda is back? Please ignore how she butchered most of the Kamar-Taj wizards in her efforts to murder a child and before that mind-controlled an entire city, and go and buy all our Wanda merchandise! Oh, and be excited about our new Avengers movies which run on the premise of 'No-one but Tony Stark ever dies for real'!!!"

Loki has been a character since Phase One of the MCU and the main villain in that phase. He was already a fan favorite character since the inception of the MCU, whereas Wanda became a breakout character post-Endgame. 

If you can blame Secret Invasion for the failure of The Marvels, then by that same logic, it makes sense that Captain Marvel being the film to directly precede Endgame is why that was such a huge success. The hype from Infinity War to Endgame was unparalleled. Captain Marvel was promised to be a key character in Endgame, with her solo film being required viewing. Unlike Black Panther, the Captain Marvel movie has not aged well and isn't really popular or considered great. As a fan of Brie Larson and of the Carol Danvers character from the comics, I felt a disconnect from the character in her solo film. I don't think audiences gravitated towards her which is why her sequel failed. And as others pointed out, if she was so beloved as a character and as leader of a new franchise, it wouldn't matter if Kamala and Monica were now co-leads. Audiences would still come to see Carol. They wouldn't stay away because of Kamala and Monica because most audiences wouldn't even know who they are, not watching the Disney+ shows. And The Marvels is considered the biggest box office flop in history now.

She did suffer from bad writing but she was still the most appealing character of MoM. Particularly with Strange being more unlikable and nobody caring for America Chavez, to the point that she's all but disappeared from the MCU. So Wanda opposing them and wanting to kill America probably didn't make her lose many fans. But I agree the writing let her down but not enough to abandon the character completely as fans are still invested in her and clearly want her back. Marvel needs to see the damage they're doing to their brand by pushing unpopular characters who aren't taking off while villainizing or killing off their actual beloved ones. And based on some of the characters appearing in those Doomsday leaks who have strong ties to Wanda, it's not improbable that she'll be back one day as there's a lot of loose ends that weren't tied up.

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm not saying we're secretly getting one in november. The idea would be a January wave with a number of comic-based avengers sets would lead up to it, similarly to how the Bugle used a lot of spider man characters from sets released slightly earlier. I'm also not saying that I think it for sure WILL happen, just that I'd like it to and think there's at least some chance.

Because for Secret Invasion to have an impact people would have to have watched it.  (But seriously- do you really think enough people watched and hated secret invasion for it to tank the franchise that much? If you really think the first one got to $1.1 billion purely on it's own merits, how would that have gone down to a quarter because of Secret Invasion unless secret invasion secretly got a TON of views.)

Then I agree, that an Avengers Mansion is prime material in the future but I wouldn't expect it until a few years. Not with Avengers Tower and maybe the X-Mansion still around, and not until we've built up a healthy number of comic book minifigs. But I've long advocated for the fact that Avengers Mansion would be a likely choice for future D2C sets.

I don't remember the rankings of the Disney+ shows in terms of most watched to least watched, although I've posted them here before. But Secret Invasion was one of the least watched shows and got a lot of negative media attention for being a show that nobody watched or cared about to even know was coming out. But even then, Ms. Marvel was the least watched Disney+ MCU show, scoring even less views than Secret Invasion.

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3 hours ago, JeanGreyForever said:

I don't remember the rankings of the Disney+ shows in terms of most watched to least watched, although I've posted them here before. But Secret Invasion was one of the least watched shows and got a lot of negative media attention for being a show that nobody watched or cared about to even know was coming out. But even then, Ms. Marvel was the least watched Disney+ MCU show, scoring even less views than Secret Invasion.

Everyone hated Secret Invasion, even the majority who didn't watch it. Most people would have read up on it at least and the array of unpopular choices (killing off Maria Hill and Talos, marrying Fury to a Skrull who then immediately disappears from the MCU, having Fury harvest everyone's blood in secret and give ALL of their powers to ONE SINGLE stranger, and of course Rhodey having been replaced by a Skrull for Feige knows how long) ist staggering. And then there were interviews with the showrunners basically going "Yeah, we shot some stuff and now we're making up the plot during the editing phase". I think any movie that came right after would have taken a hit because the MCU looked like a joke at that point.

And as you've said, Kamala isn't popular either. (Though IMO she's one of the more tolerable young additions to the MCU.) By this point the audience had definitely seen the trend of "Let's have all our established characters play second fiddle to kids" (like Strange and America, or Hawkeye and Kate, or Ant-Man and Cassie). And this movie was even named "The Marvels" as if they'd wanted to make sure no-one could think that Carol was the main character. I remember seeing the first trailer and going "Great, now Captain Marvel, too, has a whiny teenage siidekick who she needs to learn to work as a team with. Not watching that". I think it put a lot of people off. And adding Monica was frankly another way to stack the deck because a) the character would be unrecognisable to anyone who hadn't seen Wandavision way back when, and she hadn't played a large role in it, either (yes I know she was in Captain Marvel's solo movie as a child but that's barely even the same character) and b) she's really unlikeable on the whole.

Again, I've never said that Captain Marvel's solo movie's success didn't benefit from coming before Endgame. But many, many other characters had solo movies that did far worse. Ant-Man 2 did far worse despite being by far the best Ant-Man movie (not that that's saying much) and coming at a crucial time for the MCU, too. Yet no-one here claims that Ant-Man cannot draw in audiences even when that's true (just look at the box office figures of all his movies). It's always Captain Marvel.