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Unless they get really creative, the Bloody Baron is the only new character they can include here. At this point we‘re even running out of background teachers and random students :tongue:

1 hour ago, Accio Lego said:

[…] could devote its entire underground section to the Chamber of Secrets with Myrtle as the ghost.

Why not Myrtle and the Bloody Baron? :laugh: He‘s Slytherin‘s house ghost, so what better set to include him? ^^

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32 minutes ago, BrickMatit said:

I agree with the first part, but, really, who could be confused by having the Slytherin Common Room near the Slytherin Chamber of Secrets :snicker: 

The problem is exactly that they’re both obviously Slytherin rooms so it might be hard to immediately recognize that they aren’t part of the same complex of rooms. The Grand Staircase Tower had only the first three stone challenges (all connected) in the underground section while the Great Hall featured two distinct locations separated by an obvious plain corridor module to make it obvious they’re not connected. 

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@Accio Lego agree to disagree, but for me we're talking about a non issue. Only someone who knows nothing about Harry Potter, but really nothing, would have a problem, but I doubt it would be someone who could spend $250 on a Harry Potter playset.

20 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Unless they get really creative, the Bloody Baron is the only new character they can include here.

Wilhelmina Grubbly-Plank enter the chat :snicker: yes, that would be a very creative choice.

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2 minutes ago, BrickMatit said:

Wilhelmina Grubbly-Plank enter the chat :snicker: yes, that would be a very creative choice.

Wouldn't make much sense in a CoS set though as it's still Prof Kettleburn teaching Care of Magical Creatures in that year :wink:

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13 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Wouldn't make much sense in a CoS set though as it's still Prof Kettleburn teaching Care of Magical Creatures in that year

But wasn't she a substitute? Maybe in that period Kettleburn was in hospital recovering for losing one of his limb :iamded_lol:

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If this set includes the Viaduct Bridge (I'm not entirely sold on that because its a lot of bricks for very little play, but the same could be said about the Great Hall courtyard), I'm guessing this is a 32 stud wide module. If you use 76419 as a guide, the Viaduct Entrance is roughly the same width as the Hospital Wing section (not the actual section) and the small tower in the Main Tower Set. That is 20 studs and 10 studs, so roughly 30 and I'm rounding up to 32 because of the ease of two 16x16 baseplates. The Viaduct is also a slightly taller building in both 76419 and 71043

900 pieces x 1.6 for extra width x 1.1 for extra height = ~1,600 pieces. Add in 400 to 500 for the Viaduct Bridge and we are at the rumored piece count and there might be a few pieces for the Stone Bridge.

The underground modules are either 8 studs or 16 studs wide. So you could do a pullout large module for the actual chamber with Slytherin's head and then a non-pullout module for the Snake Door like the Devil's Snare is not a pullout. Otherwise you have to add 6 more studs to have 2 large modules or remove 2 studs to have a large and a small.

Basically I think there is a chance they skip the Slytherin Common room from space constraints. Its a wishful chance, but if we can get one of those traced images in a few months we can get a better sense on the true width of this set.

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3 hours ago, Accio Lego said:

1) The Hospital Wing is not a large castle section, it’s a medium one less than half the size of the other sets with common rooms. So they already have changed their pattern. 

2) The Chamber of Secrets takes up A LOT of space and is subterranean. The Slytherin common room is also subterranean. Trying to include them both in the same set would be difficult size-wise (and, frankly, visually confusing to have the great big snake themed Chamber with a small snake themed module squashed next to it that doesn’t actually have any physical connection to the larger underground section).

 

Therefore, some of us have already theorized that the Lego designers put this year’s commonroom/house ghost combo into the much smaller Hospital Wing set in the winter wave so the largest summer wave set could devote its entire underground section to the Chamber of Secrets with Myrtle as the ghost. It would mean the pattern is ‘one house ghost + common room per year’ instead of ‘house ghost + common room in every large set’ (which as discussed has already been broken by point 1).

We’ll likely get the Slytherin common room and Bloody Baron next year. 

Hmmm never thought of it like that but I do find that line of thinking intriguing. On one hand it would be pretty odd in a Chamber of Secrets centric East Wing that the Slytherin Common Room would be left out, especially with its prominence in the Chamber of Secrets book/movie. On the other hand, it would mean that the most detailed Hogwarts line would continue another year which is ultimately what I’m personally rooting for, I want this to be as close to complete of Hogwarts we can possibly get. So I hope you are indeed correct.

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9 hours ago, Accio Lego said:

The Chamber of Secrets takes up A LOT of space and is subterranean. The Slytherin common room is also subterranean.

Are you sure that LEGO care about the latter? From the way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if the Slytherin Common Room were now up somewhere in the East Wing instead of a classroom or something. Both the Ravenclaw and Gryffindor Common Rooms are supposed to be located in towers, yet neither of them are in this version of Hogwarts.

That said I would also be surprised if we got more than one ghost with the East Wing, so either Myrtle or the Baron (who likely comes with the Slytherin Common Room), not both.

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8 hours ago, brickbride said:

Are you sure that LEGO care about the latter? From the way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if the Slytherin Common Room were now up somewhere in the East Wing instead of a classroom or something. Both the Ravenclaw and Gryffindor Common Rooms are supposed to be located in towers, yet neither of them are in this version of Hogwarts.

I get what you are saying as Lego is clearly not sticking to the definitive placement of all castle rooms, but I do think they have stuck to to the general jist of the Gryffindor and Ravenclaw common rooms being on higher levels and the Hufflepuff common room being on a lower level. The fact that the Slytherin common room is in the dungeons is quite known so I would expect it to be subterranean in placement if it appears. 

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8 hours ago, brickbride said:

Are you sure that LEGO care about the latter? From the way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if the Slytherin Common Room were now up somewhere in the East Wing instead of a classroom or something. Both the Ravenclaw and Gryffindor Common Rooms are supposed to be located in towers, yet neither of them are in this version of Hogwarts.

Both the Ravenclaw and Gryffindor Common Rooms were placed in towers in this modular wave. Sure not completely in the Tower because the model isn't big enough for that, but both are in upper parts of their modules that have tower pieces.

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Sure but neither of them are in a tower. By the same logic Slytherin could be on the ground floor or even first floor and still count as "dungeons-adjacent". I could see them putting it on the ground floor of the East Wing for example, which would be close to the Chamber of Secrets but not, you know, in a dungeon.

Moreover the last underground common room we've had (Hufflepuff) was by far the worst of the three we've got, a pitiful-looking pull-out module with next to no defining features (you might as well rename it the Teacher's Lounge or A Teacher's Quarters and Office or whatever). I think Slytherin deserves a little more care simply because of its relative story importance, so it would actually make sense for them not to go the same route as with Hufflepuff.

So far we haven't had any dungeon modules that looked good. The lack of walls is a distinct disadvantage - at least the upper modules like the Gryffindor and Ravenclaw Common Rooms had the roof to work with. I'm already worried about what the Chamber of Secrets will look like; I can't see the pull-out module system conveying a sense of its grandeur (something the 2002 set managed very well).

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Turns out the number of the AC (76340) was correct after all, but of course it’s a Marvel one ^^ The HP one has yet to be confirmed!

Edit: Looks like there‘s no HP AC this year!

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2 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Edit: Looks like there‘s no HP AC this year!

What exactly does 'Retailers no longer need to carry Harry Potter Advent Calendars and wonder why they aren't selling' mean?

Does it mean that in the future the HP Advent Calendars will be a Lego exclusive or is it a comment on retailers having been surprised that the HP Advent calendars have not sold well.

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1 hour ago, BacktoBricks said:

What exactly does 'Retailers no longer need to carry Harry Potter Advent Calendars and wonder why they aren't selling' mean?

Does it mean that in the future the HP Advent Calendars will be a Lego exclusive or is it a comment on retailers having been surprised that the HP Advent calendars have not sold well.

It’s a comment on how advent calendars don’t sell well and now retailers don’t have to put them on discount because there won’t be one.

Really obscure way to phrase it

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1 hour ago, Virginia_Bricks said:

It’s a comment on how advent calendars don’t sell well and now retailers don’t have to put them on discount because there won’t be one.

Really obscure way to phrase it

That can’t be right. The Harry Potter advent calendar always sells out before most of the others on Lego shop@home. But has there ever been a Lego or retailer exclusive advent calendar before?

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4 hours ago, Accio Lego said:

The Harry Potter advent calendar always sells out before most of the others on Lego shop@home.

Maybe in US and UK, but in EU the last Advent Calendar was available also after Christmas, with a 50% discount.

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10 hours ago, Virginia_Bricks said:

It’s a comment on how advent calendars don’t sell well and now retailers don’t have to put them on discount because there won’t be one.

Really obscure way to phrase it

Okay thank you. Yes that is an obscure way: maybe something got lost in translation. 

Well yes I agree the advent calender didn't sell so well this year as others, but I think that is entirely the fault of the content not the theme. Were the jumpers cute? Sure and I don't blame the designers for trying to do something fun and novel. But are they canon representing movie or book designs? No. As such I know a lot of collectors had no interest because they didn't feel there was a place for them in their display. I myself got the calender but in the end I haven't put them in my display and they probably won't even come out at Christmas. And the other part of the calender being buildable objects and characters again shrunk it's appeal to a lot of adult collectors.

From my observations, the calenders that have sold the most seem to be the ones based around Christmas scenes from the movies. The 2022 calender with the buildable objects and a weirdly dark selection of characters (Azkaban Sirius, Voldermort, crying Myrtle) also sold particularly poorly from what I could see. And I don't think 2021 with it's mini builds but not so Christmas characters was as well received either. On the other hand, the 2019, 2020 and 2023 calenders based respectively on a Hogwarts Christmas, the Yule Ball and Hogsmeade were better sellers I think. Those calenders balanced fun minifigures for children with designs collectors wanted to complete their collections. And sure, there may be a small amount of HP fatigue going on due to the theme having been running years again now, but I think if the calenders returned to the traditional format of Christmas scenes it would boost sales. And there are plenty that could still be done. 

 

 

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The Calendar was the weakest so far to me. I like the torsos & even more that we got two. The builds just weren’t neat. The real world items were fun & could make for some good photos, but I liked them far more when we got scale builds to make a scene or enhance the castle interior. 

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10 hours ago, Vindicare said:

The Calendar was the weakest so far to me. I like the torsos & even more that we got two. The builds just weren’t neat. The real world items were fun & could make for some good photos, but I liked them far more when we got scale builds to make a scene or enhance the castle interior. 

They used the same buildable props gimmick in the 2018 Friends calendar, which was similarly unpopular, so I’m not sure why they’d repeat that known mistake with Harry Potter years later (or why it would kill the theme’s annual advent calendar). 

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Around here there's plenty of HP advent calendars still available after Christmas, and I agree that this one was particularly bad. Though I don't think we've had a truly "good" one unless you count "removing characters and features that really should be in the set, then putting them in an AC so that people have to buy both" as "good". (Such as: Parvati in Yule ball robes who really should have been in the Clock Tower set, the fireplace for the Great Hall that really should have been in the EUR 200 Great Hall set, and so on.)

Still I think there's something else at play here. The Disney AC sold very badly in 2024 (even LEGO discounted it on its own web site along with the Marvel one), yet Disney got another AC in 2025. Marvel did not (Minecraft did instead), but that might have more to do with the fact that they got their own Spiderman CMF series in 2025 (and the poorly-selling 2024 AC was Spiderman-themed as well), so LEGO might simply have wanted to avoid flooding the market in order to prevent buyer fatigue.

Marvel are now set to get another AC even though the last one (2024) didn't sell well. The first Minecraft AC in 2025, on the other hand, seems to have been well-received but reportedly there won't be another in 2026.

And Friends gets an AC every year even though I've seen shops here have two of them on shelves at the same time (the then-recent 2024 one and right next to it the discounted 2023 one) indicating that they don't sell all that well either.

And why doesn't Ninjago, which is hugely popular with kids, ever get an AC?

I think there might be a lot of internal politics at work here (i.e. Marvel and Minecraft having to share an alternating slot for some reason? And Ninjago being somehow never considered?) and also a lot of making decisions based on the competition (i.e. there's plenty of other toy companies offering ACs for girls so if Friends and/or Disney don't get ACs LEGO's effectively conceding the field).

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13 hours ago, brickbride said:

And why doesn't Ninjago, which is hugely popular with kids, ever get an AC?

 

Uh… because the ninjas are culturally Japanese, Christianity is practiced by less than 1% of Japan’s population, and Christmas officially doesn’t exist in the Ninjago universe?

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46 minutes ago, Accio Lego said:

Uh… because the ninjas are culturally Japanese, Christianity is practiced by less than 1% of Japan’s population, and Christmas officially doesn’t exist in the Ninjago universe?

Does Christmas officially exist in Star Wars? There is Life Day, but I didn't think Christmas was canon.

It surprises me Ninjago doesn't get one with how popular the theme is.

Posted
50 minutes ago, Accio Lego said:

Christianity is practiced by less than 1% of Japan’s population […]

Xmas is popular in Japan regardless of actual religion. Never heard of the KFC Xmas dinner tradition over there? :laugh_hard: I‘m not making it up!

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