Marvel Superheroes 2022 - Rumors & Discussion

[Legocentrico]

in your country, is Namor pronounced as you always pronounced it?  in Italy they have shifted the accent and it sounds stupid.  And the motivation is even more stupid 😓

[Mandalorianknight]

I like @cosmic's idea, heres my thoughts on the sets:

(First off, I though the movie was "pretty good". Nothing special, but definately better than the other 2022 movies. A bit long, a couple confusing plot choices, etc. M'Baku is the best character, again.)

Sunbird: Like cosmic says, a good idea, but the wings are completely wrong. Also, I don't think Shuri ever wears that outfit in the movie.

Namor's Throne: Fine. Minisub is so inaccurate it might not be based on the in-movie vehicle, but I like the throne.

War on the Water: The set makes more sense to me now, but it really doesn't feel like a "war on the water" in the set. I think it needed more figures, and I don't think it was the best set choice. A new Talon Fighter would have been better IMO.

[Classic_Spaceman]

12 hours ago, cosmic said:

Additionally, Riri has long hair for the whole movie (braids) and I do not feel this hair piece is representative of how she appeared at all. Would have been nice to get a new braid piece for her. 

What part(s) would work for her? 

12 hours ago, cosmic said:

this outift never made it into the movie (Shuri) and I won’t spoil what she does wear (even though it has no impact on the movie at large). Just going to speculate this was based on source material and maybe this was a fit Shuri was meant to wear, but regardless the fig we got here does not appear in any scene.

This is disappointing, since it means that LEGO could have given Black Panther printed legs by giving Shuri plain ones, and it would not have affected the accuracy of the sets. 😕
Do you think that this outfit was based on concept art for the purple tracksuit, or something else? 
 

2 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Minisub is so inaccurate it might not be based on the in-movie vehicle

How does the sub differ from the movie version (design, scale, etc?)? 

Spoiler question: 

 

Is Lake Bell’s character anyone notable from the comics, and does she survive?

 

6 hours ago, Legocentrico said:

in your country, is Namor pronounced as you always pronounced it?  in Italy they have shifted the accent and it sounds stupid.  And the motivation is even more stupid 😓

The accent is on the second syllable, per Namor himself (Promotional clip). 
 

Edited November 11, 2022 by Classic_Spaceman

[PGBQW]

43 minutes ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

The accent is on the second syllable, per Namor himself (Promotional clip). 

I see they pronounce it as they should instead of repeating the Ra's Al Ghul incident.

 

[thebricksbear]

IMO every single change they made to Namor and Atlantis was for the better. Naymor/Naaamor was always a very weird pronunciation and the latin flair is better.

Talocan is honestly the best version of "atlantis" from any media I've seen before, especially Aquaman.

I'd love to see a new braids hairpiece for black minifigures, especially since its not exactly an uncommon hairstyle.

[Mandalorianknight]

2 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

What part(s) would work for her? 

This is disappointing, since it means that LEGO could have given Black Panther printed legs by giving Shuri plain ones, and it would not have affected the accuracy of the sets. 😕
Do you think that this outfit was based on concept art for the purple tracksuit, or something else? 
 

How does the sub differ from the movie version (design, scale, etc?)? 

Spoiler question: 

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Is Lake Bell’s character anyone notable from the comics, and does she survive?

 

I honestly don't understand that outfit at all. It looks more combat like/wakandan than the tracksuit, so I'm not sure where it would fit in the movie.

As for the minisub (Don't think it's a spoiler, but I'll be safe)

Spoiler

It's not a solid object but a skeletal frame. It's not drastically larger in the set than the movie, but since the movie one is literally a frame, I almost wonder if this is meant to be the same thing.

As for the other question, that's a double no.

Spoiler

She dies, and is some random agent with one scene

1 hour ago, bricksandabear said:

I'd love to see a new braids hairpiece for black minifigures, especially since its not exactly an uncommon hairstyle.

Braids would be a very nice piece. I mean, even outside of marvel (And the ragnorak Heimdall figure we need), Uruk-Hai and vikings use/used braids, and not only does there seem to be a castle-type thing going on with vikings where we'll get a set or two a year, but LOTR is back... definately worth the investment of a mold or two.

Edited November 11, 2022 by Mandalorianknight

[cosmic]

2 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

What part(s) would work for her? 

This is disappointing, since it means that LEGO could have given Black Panther printed legs by giving Shuri plain ones, and it would not have affected the accuracy of the sets. 😕
Do you think that this outfit was based on concept art for the purple tracksuit, or something else? 
 

How does the sub differ from the movie version (design, scale, etc?)? 

I think the closest would be the braided hair used for Fennec Shand, but even then its not quite as accurate as it could be. I feel they should have created a new mould but perhaps there was budgeting restraints. As for what I think it was based off of, I suspect Lego was given inaccurate source material. The strikes of purple does give credence to your theory, and perhaps the purple tracksuit was initially intended to be a black bodysuit. 
 

its also possible Lego was given inaccurate source material for the hair. But thats being quite generous, as I mentioned in my previous comment, Shuri had long hair in Endgame but was given a short hair piece, so its always possible Lego cheaped out.

And finally, I have to respectfully disagree with @Mandalorianknight, I think the sub in the movie had way too many transparent edges and for stability purposes Lego needed to build the sub using black sturdy pieces, I feel they did as best a job capturing the essence of that sub without making it too fragile made completely of window like pieces. I implore you to consider how week of a build that would have been for young kids playing with said set. 

[Classic_Spaceman]

44 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

As for the other question, that's a double no.

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She dies, and is some random agent with one scene

 

No Doom confirmed, then? 
 

34 minutes ago, cosmic said:

I think the closest would be the braided hair used for Fennec Shand, but even then its not quite as accurate as it could be.

Is that the right length? 

35 minutes ago, cosmic said:

its also possible Lego was given inaccurate source material for the hair. But thats being quite generous, as I mentioned in my previous comment, Shuri had long hair in Endgame but was given a short hair piece, so its always possible Lego cheaped out.

Riri’s hair in the comics matches the piece that LEGO gave her, so I assume that they were working from earlier concept art. As for Shuri, I am not sure what you mean; the piece that LEGO used looks close to her Endgame appearance. 
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Minifig 

[GoldenNinja3000]

The movie was excellent IMO, one of Marvel's best by far and the sets were surprisingly relevant. I love the Sunbird set but it's the wrong color and the wings splay open in the movie which I think could have been executed in the set. War on the Water is still a bust for me. The ship isn't anything special in the film but LEGO could have gotten creative. I think we sorely needed Namora and Ramonda figures at the very least. 

I would have preferred a big Wakandan throne room set over War on the Water, but I totally understand why LEGO made that ship instead. I'm just missing a location-based Wakanda set, I feel like we should have gotten a proper one by now instead of little builds scattered in small sets. I loved the wall from Infinity War but it's not based on anything in the actual movies, and I think it's high time we got the iconic throne room or Mount Bashenga.

I know LEGO didn't want to go this route so it was never a possibility, but I would have preferred a Mount Bashenga D2C with a giant black panther statue and a full recreation of Shuri's lab instead of the Black Panther bust. It would still be an iconic Wakandan display piece and could have included figures from both the first and second movies. 

[Mandalorianknight]

6 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

No Doom confirmed, then? 

Spoiler

There is no tease or mention of anything doom-related at all.

6 hours ago, cosmic said:

And finally, I have to respectfully disagree with @Mandalorianknight, I think the sub in the movie had way too many transparent edges and for stability purposes Lego needed to build the sub using black sturdy pieces, I feel they did as best a job capturing the essence of that sub without making it too fragile made completely of window like pieces. I implore you to consider how week of a build that would have been for young kids playing with said set. 

I'm not saying they should have made it look exactly like the movie one (but transparent parts exist, so they could have gotten at least a little closer in that regard by using more than 3) but the front portion of the sub especially just doesn't look like the movie one.

[cosmic]

21 hours ago, Classic_Spaceman said:

No Doom confirmed, then? 
 

Is that the right length? 

Riri’s hair in the comics matches the piece that LEGO gave her, so I assume that they were working from earlier concept art. As for Shuri, I am not sure what you mean; the piece that LEGO used looks close to her Endgame appearance. 
Movie 
Minifig 

Yes the length is what brings it closer, but again her braids don’t really match an existing piece. Good point about Shuri, I know she had that bun for Infinity War, but I remembered her having a long braid coming down from said bun, but I guess you’re right that it does match how she looked. I take that comment back.

14 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

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There is no tease or mention of anything doom-related at all.

I'm not saying they should have made it look exactly like the movie one (but transparent parts exist, so they could have gotten at least a little closer in that regard by using more than 3) but the front portion of the sub especially just doesn't look like the movie one.

I hear you, the throne itself is still a decent representation of the throne in the movie so at least that set has that going for it.

[TheBatstan]

On 11/5/2022 at 10:50 PM, ToaDraco said:

Agreed, it's great to get more comic-based sets. As much as I love the MCU, it's incredibly limiting and a lot of characters I love, like Ghost Rider, have yet to appear in the MCU.

Late reply, but I take it you don't really consider the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D show to be canon then? Because they gave us a tiny cameo from Johnny Blaze in the episode where Robbie explains how he got his powers.

But I'm also with you on allowing more comic based sets to have their time in the spotlight, otherwise you might as well call this theme Lego MCU instead of Lego Marvel. I'm still holding out hope for a comic based Fantastic Four set, but knowing how Lego works/unless you're Spider-Man, the MCU variants will be the only ones that'll ever get sets.

[Toa Palpo]

6 hours ago, TheBatstan said:

Late reply, but I take it you don't really consider the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D show to be canon then? Because they gave us a tiny cameo from Johnny Blaze in the episode where Robbie explains how he got his powers.

But I'm also with you on allowing more comic based sets to have their time in the spotlight, otherwise you might as well call this theme Lego MCU instead of Lego Marvel. I'm still holding out hope for a comic based Fantastic Four set, but knowing how Lego works/unless you're Spider-Man, the MCU variants will be the only ones that'll ever get sets.

As much as I would love to, they've made it pretty clear it's a variant timeline at best. I do hope we see many of the SHIELD characters return ESPECIALLY Robbie but as of right now it is most certainly not canon to the core timeline.

[Classic_Spaceman]

55 minutes ago, ToaDraco said:

As much as I would love to, they've made it pretty clear it's a variant timeline at best. I do hope we see many of the SHIELD characters return ESPECIALLY Robbie but as of right now it is most certainly not canon to the core timeline.

I think that AoS can be canon to the main 616/199999 universe up through Season 4. Season 5b, Season 6, and the end of Season 7 seem to take place in an alternate timeline, but it is not quite clear how it formed.
One possibility is that the Agents ended up in another universe when they returned to the present, since they did not reappear at the exact moment that they left (hence the Avengers’ need for their space-time GPSs), but that does not explain how Fitz could travel to the future of another universe (remember that the Earth remained shattered after the Agents returned to the present) and remain in the present of the S5b/S6 universe via cryosleep. 
More likely, since Fitz did not actively hop universes, is that the Time Monolith caused a rupture in the 616/199999 timeline when it activated, and the future that we see in Season 5a is an offshoot of the offshoot that was created when the monolith opened (that is, the 5b/6 universe). 

TL;DR: The activation of the Time Monolith and the Quake-Graviton battle are Nexus Events that caused splits in their respective timelines. 
 

[Mandalorianknight]

9 hours ago, TheBatstan said:

Late reply, but I take it you don't really consider the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D show to be canon then?

I think the only pre-disney+ show that we know is canon right now is Daredevil, and even then I think/fear Born Again will be a soft reboot and tonally different. According to leaks

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At the very least, Frank and Jessica are played by the same actors in the MCU, but that doesn't necessarily confirm their shows are canon.

My guess is the netflix shows will be canon, but not the shows from other networks like AoS, Runaways, or Cloak and Dagger.

[Falconfan1414]

So 2 interesting things

1. In a new ninjago set they have a mech riding a bike so I would expect that for ghost rider too

2. It sounds like from bricksets interview they forgot about marvels 10 year anniversary 

Edited November 13, 2022 by Falconfan1414

[Scarilian]

Alright, seems we are entering 'leak week'. This time last year we had the 2022 Marvel mechs revealed, so we may see some 2023 January sets revealed this week for Marvel. Hopefully something good to distract from recent poor business decisions of Lego.

17 minutes ago, Falconfan1414 said:

It sounds like from bricksets interview they forgot about marvels 10 year anniversary 

I agree with CM4Sci, remark on Brickset, on this one. Mark Stafford seems to repeatedly be using Covid and the lockdowns as an excuse for every poor decision made by Lego recently to shift the blame away. Similar remarks were made regarding the Black Panther Bust. It's getting tiresome and seems unlikely to be honest. You don't just forget about the 10th anniversary while designing and working with several others designing one of the biggest and most expensives sets to be released in recent years.

The answer is also a cop-out, Batman and Spider-man were seperate themes, not released under the Superhero theme which started in 2012. Even if you wanted to use them as an excuse, it does not work as an excuse for Marvel because the Spider-man sets came out in 2002 so we should be celebrating the 20th anniversary. Avengers came out 10 years ago and was the same time the Marvel Superhero theme started and we had nothing for the dual 10th anniversary of those.

Honestly, it further aggravates the scenario because he's claiming to directly acknowledge the Spider-man 2002 sets meaning it would flash in his mind that this was the 20th anniversary of that theme, 10th anniversary of Avengers, 10th anniversary of the Marvel Superhero Theme, etc...

[BrickBob Studpants]

Not sure why people were this  obsessed with the idea of an anniversary in the first place. Do you really want golden minifigs that badly?

Besides, we’ve already been getting Infinity Saga sets for a while now, so it’s not like we’re in desperate need for throwback sets  

[hachiroku]

20 minutes ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Not sure why people were this  obsessed with the idea of an anniversary in the first place. Do you really want golden minifigs that badly?

Besides, we’ve already been getting Infinity Saga sets for a while now, so it’s not like we’re in desperate need for throwback sets  

IMO, the reason why people want an Anniversary subtheme or sets is just that they (we) want more sets from Phases 1-2-3.

People are just using the Anniversary thing because it would have made sense, similar to what happens with Star Wars with people expecting Episode II sets last year or Episode VI this one.

Just like with the Star Wars theme, we have reached the point were fans prefer to revisit things rather than getting stuff from the new media.

About the Infinity Saga sets this year, that's another problem. 2021 was great because all of the sets were minifig scale, but this year, except the new Iron Hall (which is kind of dissapointing if it's supposed to be an Iron Man 2 set, no Mark IV or VI) and one Juniors sets (the Black Panther one), all of them has been display pieces (Gauntlet, Mjölnir, Groot, BP bust, Hulkbuster....).

And I still can't understand why Lego focuses so much on that kind of sets. I've taked about that with a lot of people, Lego fans and no Lego fans, and nobody prefers display sets over minifig scale sets. Maybe Lego has their data and most of the people prefer big display stuff, but my experience is completely the opposite.

 

PD: And I'm saying this as someone who has a Lego Ideas set approved which isn't in minifig scale

Edited November 13, 2022 by hachiroku

[Legocentrico]

40 minuti fa, BrickBob Studpants ha detto:

Non so perché la gente fosse così ossessionata dall'idea di un anniversario in primo luogo. Vuoi davvero così tanto le minifigure d'oro?

Inoltre, abbiamo già ricevuto set Infinity Saga per un po' di tempo, quindi non è che abbiamo un disperato bisogno di set di ritorno al passato 

Gold minifigures and special box art, yes, I really wanted to!  10 years is a great milestone and it would have been right to celebrate.
 

Returning to the interview, the "Super Heroes" brand disappeared from the sets in 2019, I thought they hadn't celebrated 10 years simply because the line didn't last 10 years ... but obviously I was wrong and "Super Heroes" still exists 🤷‍♂️

[PGBQW]

4 hours ago, Scarilian said:

Mark Stafford seems to repeatedly be using Covid and the lockdowns as an excuse for every poor decision made by Lego recently to shift the blame away. Similar remarks were made regarding the Black Panther Bust. 

I find that so surreal because it can only mean two things.

 

1) They're lying because they don't want to face any criticism

2) They're actually telling the true? Which would arguably be worse?

Like I understand Lockdown keept designers to phisically meet, but like haven't they heard of something called The Internet™? That's were the site interviewing you is?

3 hours ago, BrickBob Studpants said:

Not sure why people were this  obsessed with the idea of an anniversary in the first place. Do you really want golden minifigs that badly?

Personally, I in particular have always been really dismisive of the idea because I don't really see the point of it, but this time it's more about the designers totally refusing to take any negative feedback

[GoldenNinja3000]

I don't really blame Mark Stafford for his comments. What is he going to say? Designers have restrictions and they get PR training. LEGO wouldn't let him say anything that would reflect negatively on them, so of course these interviews are blaming everything on COVID and uncertainty/disconnection during the pandemic. I think the truth is that the designers had enough on their plate between the 18+ push and the issues caused by COVID. So I can believe the anniversary falling through the cracks but I don't think they outright forgot, I think it simply wasn't a priority in 2020. By the time everything settled down it was probably too late to do any anniversary sets without totally phoning them in. 

Edited November 14, 2022 by GoldenNinja3000

[Falconfan1414]

The thing for me is Covid just affected the marvel team? Like i haven’t really heard Harry Potter team or Star Wars mention it. Like it would be one thing if it was a thing that all designers said but it seems to just be a thing said by the marvel team

[Mandalorianknight]

14 minutes ago, Falconfan1414 said:

The thing for me is Covid just affected the marvel team? Like i haven’t really heard Harry Potter team or Star Wars mention it. Like it would be one thing if it was a thing that all designers said but it seems to just be a thing said by the marvel team

It's definately suspicious. I mean, between that and some other excuses they've made like:

-we couldn't figure out how to count anniversaries (for why we didn't get super heroes anniversary sets). This is a stupid enough excuse for DC, but for marvel it's either the 10th or 20th anniversary, so it's not like you'd have to put something like "16th anniversary" on the box.

-recent DC content has been too adult focused (for why there was one (1) dc system set this year)  *If you're not aware, there was a theatrically released animated kid's DC movie about the justice league's pets this year in which Batman and Superman have supporting roles*

It really seems like the lego designers are giving BS excuses. Reminds me of "all yellow clones look alike" from last year with the republic gunship set.

Edited November 14, 2022 by Mandalorianknight

[GoldenNinja3000]

3 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

It's definately suspicious. I mean, between that and some other excuses they've made like:

-we couldn't figure out how to count anniversaries (for why we didn't get super heroes anniversary sets). This is a stupid enough excuse for DC, but for marvel it's either the 10th or 20th anniversary, so it's not like you'd have to put something like "16th anniversary" on the box.

-recent DC content has been too adult focused (for why there was one (1) dc system set this year)  *If you're not aware, there was a theatrically released animated kid's DC movie about the justice league's pets this year in which Batman and Superman have supporting roles*

It really seems like the lego designers are giving BS excuses. Reminds me of "all yellow clones look alike" from last year with the republic gunship set.

The DC thing is a good point. In this interview they make it seem like there's no DC sets because there are no movies. That's understandable (to a degree) because movies keep these franchises relevant in consumers' eyes, but DC got two non-Batman movies this year! It's not like I wanted SuperPets or Black Adam sets, but the content was there for LEGO to make more sets. 

Also, what about our annual DC D2C? I was really enjoying the big display models from 2019-2021. I'd buy a UCS 1966 Batmobile in a heartbeat and I've never even seen the series. That seems like a no-brainer set to me, or even more Dark Knight Trilogy sets after how popular last year's minifigure-scale Tumbler was. It feels more like the designers have given up because sets weren't selling well, but if that's the case LEGO should be trying something new instead of throwing in the towel.