Marvel Superheroes 2022 - Rumors & Discussion

[PGBQW]

7 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

I think you're the first person I've seen even just online who isn't a fan of NWH.

There's dozens of us out there! Dozens!

 

1 hour ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

[Being extremely based]

I agree with most of your points, and also would probably end up buying most of the sets for the minifigures alone. For all the criticism I have for the movie, it gave us peak Doc Ock's outfit, I'd love to see how Lego would do the arms (and then I'd probably end up changing them anyway).

[THELEGOBATMAN]

5 minutes ago, PGBQW said:

I agree with most of your points, and also would probably end up buying most of the sets for the minifigures alone. For all the criticism I have for the movie, it gave us peak Doc Ock's outfit, I'd love to see how Lego would do the arms (and then I'd probably end up changing them anyway).

They revealed a few concept arts with literally perfect Lizard designs, and for some reason they didn't use them. Unforgivable.

Other villains' deigns are fantastic tho.

[Mandalorianknight]

5 hours ago, PGBQW said:

There's dozens of us out there! Dozens!

NWH non-fans vs Everett Ross Enjoyers

7 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

*essay*

I agree with some of your points (unfinished CGI, etc), but I do have two rebuttals:
Putting new friends in danger: Yeah, he'll get new ones eventually, but he probably thinks he won't, to keep people safe.

Why is sandman working with goblin: He's not. They say in the movie here's there and fighting so he can get the box to send himself home. Electro's there to destroy the box so they can't go home. Goblin is just there bc it's goblinin time. They aren't working together, they just all happen to want to get the box and the spider-men are protecting it.

[Scarilian]

Lego though...

17 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Even then, I don't think the X-mansion would sell great just now. I'd say the best bet is either when X'men 97 comes out to hit em with the nostalgia or when the MCU does x-men.

Yeah, it's a matter of whatever the $550 set is needs to justify the pricing either via its design or its adaptation and it needs to be something the audience is familiar with.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

3 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

NWH non-fans vs Everett Ross Enjoyers

I agree with some of your points (unfinished CGI, etc), but I do have two rebuttals:
Putting new friends in danger: Yeah, he'll get new ones eventually, but he probably thinks he won't, to keep people safe.

Why is sandman working with goblin: He's not. They say in the movie here's there and fighting so he can get the box to send himself home. Electro's there to destroy the box so they can't go home. Goblin is just there bc it's goblinin time. They aren't working together, they just all happen to want to get the box and the spider-men are protecting it.

Eh, I guess the friends stuff is a matter of personal preference. I hate it and think it's pointless because we know that he'll get friends, doesn't matter which ones, and he'll put them in danger, as always. MJ and Ned chose this, and Peter taking their choice away doesn't exactly resonate with me.

As for Sandman, my point was: if he wants to get the box so he can get home, why does he team-up with the villains instead of teaming with Spider-Men, who literally want the same thing as he does? That makes no sense, and seems extremely counter-productive.

Edited October 8, 2022 by THELEGOBATMAN

[cosmic]

I get that the MCU heavily influences comics and therefore there may be overlap in designs often. If the mechs are assumed to be comic based, are we expecting a reuse of the orange suit for Rocket or some sort of new print? I know it’d be out there and this is definitely not happening but I’d love to see a new mold thats more comic like in its styling. Disappointing to see Thanos getting a mech considering he got one in 2020. I would have loved for Lego to have used that to give either an army builder like a Hydra soldier, or a new variant for an existing character, like a comic based Vision or 90’s style Cyclops.

I’m really hoping they redo the face print if they use the new Ghost Rider. I get what they were going for but it wasn’t executed Correctly imo. Robbie needs a better face print, again reiterating my hopes for the mech to be for the villains because why would they do a car and mech for ghost Rider in one set? I hope its lost in translation that mech better be for a villain it would suck for a $35 set to come with 1 figure. I’m hoping for either 3 or 4 so they fan squeeze a new hero in. Given the context I’d ask for Elektra.

And finally is it confirmed what 76248 is based on? It’d be cool to get a comic Quinjet but this is most certainly MCU based. Didn’t someone say it was based on Age of Ultron? I guess it’s too soon to tell. 
 

overall this wave has potential assuming they throw a new hero or villain in a set or two. If the title characters are all we get it will feel like a missed opportunity. Similiarly, if the Ghost Rider Mech is not for a villain but just adds to a huge $35 set completely devoted to one figure that would also be a loss, especially assuming they reuse the terrible face print for said character they recently came out with. I’m hopeful this may be a pleasant surprise.

 

and also super excited to see if we do end up getting some mutant content in the coming year. I want comic X-Men sets so bad you have no idea. I’ll be damned if SDCC 2012 is the last time Lego makes a Phoenix figure. Especially given modern printing techniques, she could be done beautifully with dual molded legs and arms + printing.

Speaking of SDCC figures which would look great in modern print, Spiderwoman would also require dual molded arms/legs + printing, and given she isn’t held back by licensing issues it’s a shame we don’t have her. They made Spider girl in 2 sets but neither was the 616 Jessica Drew that I’ve been waiting ages to add to my collection.

and finally, I know everyone always shoots this idea down but it’d be nice to get comic Guardians of the Galaxy sets. I want OG Yondu and Vance Astro, Starhawk, etc. not to mention Mantis in green skin, Angela, Agent Venom, Thing, Gamora, Quasar, Nova etc. MCU Guardians content was great imo but if not through sets at least through poly bags  and /or advent calendars, I’d be ecstatic to see some sort of comic guardians content produced.

Edited October 8, 2022 by cosmic

[Toa Palpo]

On 10/7/2022 at 8:06 PM, Mandalorianknight said:

I'm gonna be that guy and annoyingly remind you that the hydra stomper exists, though the fact you forgot it is a pretty solid statement on the quality of the set.

Wow, I even own the Hydra Stomper and somehow forgot about it. I don't think it's a bad set, we just get so many mechs I guess they all sorta blend together at some point. Still, it's weird we got 2 regular sets and half a cmf for What If and just half a cmf for the rest of the first wave of Disney+ shows. I really don't get the logic there but I'm sure that's probably as much of a Marvel issue as it is a LEGO issue.

10 hours ago, cosmic said:

I’m really hoping they redo the face print if they use the new Ghost Rider. I get what they were going for but it wasn’t executed Correctly imo. Robbie needs a better face print, again reiterating my hopes for the mech to be for the villains because why would they do a car and mech for ghost Rider in one set? I hope its lost in translation that mech better be for a villain it would suck for a $35 set to come with 1 figure. I’m hoping for either 3 or 4 so they fan squeeze a new hero in. Given the context I’d ask for Elektra.

overall this wave has potential assuming they throw a new hero or villain in a set or two. If the title characters are all we get it will feel like a missed opportunity. Similiarly, if the Ghost Rider Mech is not for a villain but just adds to a huge $35 set completely devoted to one figure that would also be a loss, especially assuming they reuse the terrible face print for said character they recently came out with. I’m hopeful this may be a pleasant surprise.

I happen to like Robbie's face print, I think it's a good LEGO-ification of his comic book design. 

Considering it's called Ghost Rider with mech and bike Robbie is off the table. It's either another Johnny Blaze or our first Danny Ketch. Based on our limited info, it seems as though it is a mech like the normal $10 mechs but with a bike large enough for the mech to ride it, hence the set being $35. I wouldn't count on any other figures.

[hachiroku]

6 hours ago, ToaDraco said:

Considering it's called Ghost Rider with mech and bike Robbie is off the table.

I wonder if the set is about Thanos Wins, so no Johnny, Robbie or Danny. That comic was incredible popular a couple of years ago, even people who weren't into comics knew about it (even it was referenced in Endgame!), and there has been a few toys about the space-bike and the Cosmic Ghost Rider.

This plus a new Thanos mech.

[Mandalorianknight]

6 minutes ago, hachiroku said:

I wonder if the set is about Thanos Wins, so no Johnny, Robbie or Danny. That comic was incredible popular a couple of years ago, even people who weren't into comics knew about it (even it was referenced in Endgame!), and there has been a few toys about the space-bike and the Cosmic Ghost Rider.

This plus a new Thanos mech.

I don't think so. For one thing, we're already getting a thanos mech. It'd be weird to have 2 thanos mechs in the same wave. For another, while popular, I don't think that lego would make a set based off a single (and somewhat dark) comic run from a few years back rather than the more iconic standard ghost rider bike.

Which I suppose reminds me, it's probably not Robbie either if it's a bike, since he's got the car.

[cosmic]

9 hours ago, ToaDraco said:

Wow, I even own the Hydra Stomper and somehow forgot about it. I don't think it's a bad set, we just get so many mechs I guess they all sorta blend together at some point. Still, it's weird we got 2 regular sets and half a cmf for What If and just half a cmf for the rest of the first wave of Disney+ shows. I really don't get the logic there but I'm sure that's probably as much of a Marvel issue as it is a LEGO issue.

I happen to like Robbie's face print, I think it's a good LEGO-ification of his comic book design. 

Considering it's called Ghost Rider with mech and bike Robbie is off the table. It's either another Johnny Blaze or our first Danny Ketch. Based on our limited info, it seems as though it is a mech like the normal $10 mechs but with a bike large enough for the mech to ride it, hence the set being $35. I wouldn't count on any other figures.

A $35 set with only one figure seems like such a loss. Better be a solid figure and/or build to justify that. I love my 2016 Ghost Rider set I actually think it’s one of the best $30 Lego Marvels sets ever released next to the Deadpool Chopper. It’s a definite pass if the fig is 1:1 to the Hobgoblin set fig.

I had to Google Danny Ketch but he looks incredible! Guess I’m not too familiar with Ghost Rider lore, I love the design of his bike it’s quite distinct and I guess his design could be made of dual molded grey/black legs and a shirt with chains crossing on it. He also has a blue flamed design I found which would be epic in Lego form. That said 1 fig for the entire set is still a disappointment I mean not even a villain? Just feels off. Especially at the price point

[Classic_Spaceman]

Unless they go with the blue fire version, Johnny and Danny look basically the same (Danny just has grey pants and (more) spikes), so I am hoping for the former. We can make a purist Danny with Johnny's head and torso, dark grey legs, and silver shoulder-spikes. 
 

3 hours ago, cosmic said:

A $35 set with only one figure seems like such a loss. . . That said 1 fig for the entire set is still a disappointment I mean not even a villain? Just feels off. Especially at the price point

I am wondering if the "mech" actually is a villain - Characters like Venom and Carnage (though highly oversaturated in LEGO form) lend themselves well to brickbuilt renditions. 🤔
 

[Caps Beard]

Rumour from jjpsleaksite of 3 more Marvel 1HY sets

76249 and 76250 at $70 each, and 76251 at $80.

If accurate at those prices points could we be looking at helmet/bust sets and/or another potential buildable object?

[THELEGOBATMAN]

1 hour ago, Caps Beard said:

Rumour from jjpsleaksite of 3 more Marvel 1HY sets

76249 and 76250 at $70 each, and 76251 at $80.

If accurate at those prices points could we be looking at helmet/bust sets and/or another potential buildable object?

We knew about all of those. And 76249 doesn't have a price attached yet.

[Caps Beard]

Oh right. Was presented as new information, clearly isn’t!

[Scarilian]

Yee, it's a little tricky keeping track as sometimes the reports of things comes from a variety of places, but this is a list of all we know so far.

I'm gonna try and keep this tradition going but we're only expecting a singular set (D2C Hulkbuster) remaining this year.

Spoiler

NOVEMBER:

• 76210: The Hulkbuster ($550, 4049 pcs - Likely The MK1) - Releasing November 4th to VIP's

2022 SETS WITH UNKNOWN RELEASE DATES:

• 76222: (Unknown set, listed on Promobricks.de) - Potentially planned, but delayed/not happening
• 76224: (Unknown set, listed on Promobricks.de) - Potentially planned, but delayed/not happening

JANUARY 2023:

• 76232: $89.99 ('The Marvels' potentially delayed)
• 76241: Hulk Mech ($14.99, 138 pcs)
• 76242: Thanos Mech ($14.99, 113 pcs)
• 76243: Rocket Raccoon Mech ($14.99, 98 pcs)
• 76244: Miles Morales Vs. Morbius ($24.99, 220 pcs)
• 76245: Ghost Rider with Mech & Bike ($34.99, 264 pcs)
• 76247: Hulkbuster: The Battle of Wakanda ($49.99, 385 pcs)
• 76248: The Avengers Quinjet ($99.99, 795 pcs)

FEBRUARY 2023:

• 30652: (Polybag?, 44 pcs)

MARCH 2023:

• 10789 (Spider-man & His Amazing Friends themed) ($9.99, 48 pcs)
• 10790 (Spider-man & His Amazing Friends themed) ($34.99, 149 pcs)
• 10791 (Spider-man & His Amazing Friends themed) ($49.99, 187 pcs)

APRIL 2023:

• 76253: (GotG themed) ($9.99, 67 pcs)
• 76254: (GotG themed) ($34.99, 330 pcs)
• 76255: (GotG themed) ($99.99, 1108 pcs)

JUNE 2023:

• 30653: (Polybag?, Could be DC or Marvel, 40 pcs)

UNKNOWN 2023:

• 76246:
• 76249:
• 76250: $69.99
• 76251: $79.99
• 76252:
• 76256: $29.99 ('Ant-Man 3')

Rumored sets:

• Additional NWH set/Movie-inspired Spider-man sets - nothing confirming the existence of the sets, but heavily desired by the community. 2HY 2023 at the earliest.

Notes:

• Unidentified sets may wind up being from DC, please be aware
• Currency listings are taken from a variety of sources and may vary, in most cases these are rounded

 

 

Edited October 10, 2022 by Scarilian

[Mandalorianknight]

Whoah, hold on. $14.99 for a 98 piece mech? A battle pack I could understand, but the mechs have all had 1 figure...

[Scarilian]

8 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

Whoah, hold on. $14.99 for a 98 piece mech? A battle pack I could understand, but the mechs have all had 1 figure...

Yep, price increased seemingly.

I'd lean to the Rocket Raccoon probably being originally worth the $9.99 value despite the low piece count given the nature of the Rocket Raccoon figure, given it's not a normal Lego Minifigure and normally includes a head/shoulder molded piece and a molded tail piece. Price increase means that unless the Rocket Raccoon figure is unique then it's probably not worth it unless it goes on discount.

I'd also expect this wave of mechs to potentially introduce a new joint piece for the hips as a lot of the delays seemed to be because of attempts to replicate the function of a potential '2x1 Mixel plate joint piece with a ball joint on either end' which would effectively be a 2x1 Mixel plate version of this piece:

Edited October 11, 2022 by Scarilian

[Moon_Knight]

19 hours ago, Scarilian said:

Yee, it's a little tricky keeping track as sometimes the reports of things comes from a variety of places, but this is a list of all we know so far.

I'm gonna try and keep this tradition going but we're only expecting a singular set (D2C Hulkbuster) remaining this year.

  Reveal hidden contents

NOVEMBER:

• 76210: The Hulkbuster ($550, 4049 pcs - Likely The MK1) - Releasing November 4th to VIP's

2022 SETS WITH UNKNOWN RELEASE DATES:

• 76222: (Unknown set, listed on Promobricks.de) - Potentially planned, but delayed/not happening
• 76224: (Unknown set, listed on Promobricks.de) - Potentially planned, but delayed/not happening

JANUARY 2023:

• 76232: $89.99 ('The Marvels' potentially delayed)
• 76241: Hulk Mech ($14.99, 138 pcs)
• 76242: Thanos Mech ($14.99, 113 pcs)
• 76243: Rocket Raccoon Mech ($14.99, 98 pcs)
• 76244: Miles Morales Vs. Morbius ($24.99, 220 pcs)
• 76245: Ghost Rider with Mech & Bike ($34.99, 264 pcs)
• 76247: Hulkbuster: The Battle of Wakanda ($49.99, 385 pcs)
• 76248: The Avengers Quinjet ($99.99, 795 pcs)

FEBRUARY 2023:

• 30652: (Polybag?, 44 pcs)

MARCH 2023:

• 10789 (Spider-man & His Amazing Friends themed) ($9.99, 48 pcs)
• 10790 (Spider-man & His Amazing Friends themed) ($34.99, 149 pcs)
• 10791 (Spider-man & His Amazing Friends themed) ($49.99, 187 pcs)

APRIL 2023:

• 76253: (GotG themed) ($9.99, 67 pcs)
• 76254: (GotG themed) ($34.99, 330 pcs)
• 76255: (GotG themed) ($99.99, 1108 pcs)

JUNE 2023:

• 30653: (Polybag?, Could be DC or Marvel, 40 pcs)

UNKNOWN 2023:

• 76246:
• 76249:
• 76250: $69.99
• 76251: $79.99
• 76252:
• 76256: $29.99 ('Ant-Man 3')

Rumored sets:

• Additional NWH set/Movie-inspired Spider-man sets - nothing confirming the existence of the sets, but heavily desired by the community. 2HY 2023 at the earliest.

Notes:

• Unidentified sets may wind up being from DC, please be aware
• Currency listings are taken from a variety of sources and may vary, in most cases these are rounded

 

 

I always appreciate this list. It's so awesome that you keep it up to date and that you repost it often so it's easy to find and I'm not looking through buried pages. Thanks!

[Legocentrico]

11 minuti fa, Moon_Knight ha detto:

Apprezzo sempre questa lista. È così fantastico che lo tieni aggiornato e che lo ripubblichi spesso, quindi è facile da trovare e non sto guardando attraverso le pagine sepolte. Grazie!

I agree.  thank you Scarilian 😁

ps.  leaker ??  Nock If you are there 😂

[Mandalorianknight]

10 hours ago, Scarilian said:

I'd lean to the Rocket Raccoon probably being originally worth the $9.99 value despite the low piece count given the nature of the Rocket Raccoon figure, given it's not a normal Lego Minifigure and normally includes a head/shoulder molded piece and a molded tail piece. Price increase means that unless the Rocket Raccoon figure is unique then it's probably not worth it unless it goes on discount.

Yeah, but like... the molds already exist, don't they? Rocket raccoon's not exactly a big fig, I can't imagine he's that much more expensive to produce than a standard figure.

10 hours ago, Scarilian said:

I'd also expect this wave of mechs to potentially introduce a new joint piece for the hips as a lot of the delays seemed to be because of attempts to replicate the function of a potential '2x1 Mixel plate joint piece with a ball joint on either end' which would effectively be a 2x1 Mixel plate version of this piece:

I have no idea why this doesn't already exist, so I'd be glad if they finally made it. (I know that the reason the parts don't exist in other colors is alleged issues with the strength of other colors, but I can't see that part being under any more stress than the other ones)

[THELEGOBATMAN]

Bunch of movie delays.

No Blade sets in 2023.

We're gonna have to wait until January 2025 for Fantastic Four in LEGO.

[Scarilian]

@Moon_Knight@Legocentrico

Thanks, glad I could help :)

I'd generally expect we'll see the Hulkbuster between the 21st October (2 weeks prior to VIP release on the 4th) and the 1st November (Store Calendar Release Day). If we get any leaks prior to that, it would be nice, but I think considering the mixed opinions on pricing perhaps seeing it officially revealed will help re-assure people interested in the set.

18 hours ago, Mandalorianknight said:

the molds already exist, don't they?

Yeah, trying to think of what the appeal would be and that's the only thing I could come up with - the idea of the molded Rocket Raccoon being used to justify the pricing more-so than the standard Lego figure hence the decreased piece count compared to other mechs?

18 hours ago, THELEGOBATMAN said:

Bunch of movie delays.

No Blade sets in 2023.

We're gonna have to wait until January 2025 for Fantastic Four in LEGO.

2023: Ant-Man 3, Guardians 3, Captain Marvel 2
2024: Captain America 4, Thunderbolts, Blade, Deadpool 3
2025: Fantastic Four, Avengers 5, Unknown Film, Unknown Film
2026: Unknown Film, Avengers 6

I really hope we wind up getting accurate sets for the future films without having to wait ages.

As such our 2023 Calendar has opened up a bit, February, May and July have films but that's it. Our film-based sets will be very front year heavy - so I hope Lego have some legacy sets planned to keep us on our toes from July 2023 to May 2024. This would be a perfect time for Legacy sets to release... if Lego is hopefully giving us more of those.

Edited October 12, 2022 by Scarilian

[Legocentrico]

“I really hope we wind up getting accurate sets for the future films without having to wait ages.”

I wonder if all these changes don't end up making the sets worse.  Not all of them, but for example Blade: a hypothetical set should have been released in a year, so I guess Lego had already started designing it.  Now will they change director, change screenplay, are we in danger of getting a set inspired by the old film?  What do you think about it?

[upliftingbricks]

10 hours ago, Scarilian said:

As such our 2023 Calendar has opened up a bit, February, May and July have films but that's it. Our film-based sets will be very front year heavy - so I hope Lego have some legacy sets planned to keep us on our toes from July 2023 to May 2024. This would be a perfect time for Legacy sets to release... if Lego is hopefully giving us more of those.

Depends if they were seeing the Blade set(s) filling the 2nd half of the year (which I doubt they were). I don't think they would add anything new to replace them at this point so anything for 2HY is already planned to come out then. Legacy sets or classic comic/animated show sets they use to do would be good

[McMurder_them_softly]

11 hours ago, Scarilian said:

@Moon_Knight@Legocentrico

Thanks, glad I could help :)

I'd generally expect we'll see the Hulkbuster between the 21st November (2 weeks prior to VIP release on the 4th) and the 1st November (Store Calendar Release Day). 

Do you mean 21st October?