Marvel Superheroes 2022 - Rumors & Discussion

[Scarilian]

6 hours ago, AndrewCole14 said:

https://thedirect.com/article/spider-man-no-way-home-lego

Next chance to get them is probably 2HY 2023. Though at this stage, we probably won't get them as we've not seen much merchandise for the villains of the film.

[Legocentrico]

6 hours ago, AndrewCole14 said:

https://thedirect.com/article/spider-man-no-way-home-lego
 

An interesting read on why we didn’t get accurate No way Home sets. 

Thank you!  I was just looking for a transcript of the interview 😍 ... but, is "more No Way Home sets in 2022" a transcription error? 🤔

Edited October 2, 2022 by Legocentrico

[BusterNut31]

Urgh so frustrated that the October sets are delayed in South Africa till mid October! 
 

people seem to not grasp the idea behind the big black war ship in the big black panther set. Its basically a luxury yacht or based on them. 
 

https://www.google.co.za/search?sxsrf=ALiCzsY6kxtRAAXS7Jq6lNjvaXDnlT4elg:1664720538857&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=luxury+black+speed+boats&hl=en-gb&client=safari&fir=2MpvHi-girUTwM%2CZOxUDbMunwEdzM%2C_%3Bs7ymU5j53tZSwM%2CFuWojtQZ2MSztM%2C_%3BUTVneM4aT_m2rM%2CWHj92R7qdZHP2M%2C_%3BQ4TqWu0f1U-QjM%2Cqw_Rw-2eFmGAMM%2C_%3Bug_15237IisBOM%2C1piXpfdMW6Ps0M%2C_%3B8JbnogYAQqVSkM%2CoYgcRgNix-B4TM%2C_%3ByilH3K6ZM5sR9M%2CRqFLbvi7oMBUtM%2C_%3Bkp1t0fv6pmSj0M%2Cqw_Rw-2eFmGAMM%2C_%3BW4ofDq3zBrzuyM%2C_RCLWFFFMk8UQM%2C_%3B7nsqii-aIkvIIM%2CFuWojtQZ2MSztM%2C_%3BAdunYFsYRrq6GM%2CkSjgkcKTsWoDQM%2C_%3BpRSKDv0XZIa3iM%2CrS6wl6aLONeC5M%2C_&usg=AI4_-kQnbRnMtHJPUTF4yYaCORfTspezYQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiJuPmi38H6AhXMQcAKHfiUAf0Q7Al6BAgXED4&biw=320&bih=509&dpr=2#imgrc=hs7EJAB6zWuO-M
 

 

[PGBQW]

21 minutes ago, BusterNut31 said:

people seem to not grasp the idea behind the big black war ship in the big black panther set. Its basically a luxury yacht or based on them. 

Being based on something doesn't make the set any less bad or cheaper, tho

[Mandalorianknight]

49 minutes ago, PGBQW said:

Being based on something doesn't make the set any less bad or cheaper, tho

the 2022 film Morbius was based on the marvel comics character morbius the living vampire

take that as you will

1 hour ago, BusterNut31 said:

people seem to not grasp the idea behind the big black war ship in the big black panther set. Its basically a luxury yacht or based on them. 

Being based on a luxary yacht doesn't make the set good, though. 

[Scarilian]

According to a survey by Falconfan1414 on Instagram, the Black Panther Bust is apparently not selling too well so far. We've already talked about the bust a lot, but is anyone here buying it?

1 hour ago, BusterNut31 said:

people seem to not grasp the idea behind the big black war ship in the big black panther set. Its basically a luxury yacht or based on them.

The scale is a lot bigger given the Dragon Flyers are in scale so its much more likely to be a futuristic aircaft carrier taking inspiration from the luxury yacht. The trouble is at its core its another black and gray build, they were probably working on concept art and the final design is probably black and gray, but it's not visually engaging. The design may look better in the movie, but Lego charging a ridiculous amount for it certainly won't help with the sales. If this was cheaper, then maybe, but the original design inspiration does not save the set itself from looking bland.

2 hours ago, Legocentrico said:

Thank you!  I was just looking for a transcript of the interview 😍 ... but, is "more No Way Home sets in 2022" a transcription error? 🤔

While the article is from October 2nd 2022, the transcript it and you are referencing is a Brick Fanatics article from December 23rd 2021 back when we had the rumours of us getting some legacy sets inspired by the Raimi Series. That rumour turned out to be false.

Our next chance to get Spider-man: No Way Home sets is 2HY 2023. It's already been remarked on that we won't get any in 1HY 2023.

Personally, considering how many new characters would be required I doubt we'll end up seeing No Way Home legacy sets at all, as you'd need Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Lizard, Electro, Sandman, Tobey Spider-man and Andrew Spider-man - that's quite a few figures and we are starting to reach the point of four/five films a year.

Edited October 2, 2022 by Scarilian

[Legocentrico]

It would be crazy for Lego not to monetize the success of No Way Home.  I am still convinced that we will have the sets.  If I remember correctly, Hasbro will present its products right in 2023 (along with the disney plus ones from Hawkeye onwards), Lego could follow ... that statue of liberty has the potential for a 500 € d2c, but also 3/4 summer sets , like for Endgame

I had enormous expectations for 2022, and we know how it turned out.  But the January list looks like the start of a better year 🤞

Edited October 2, 2022 by Legocentrico

[GoldenNinja3000]

1 hour ago, Scarilian said:

According to a survey by Falconfan1414 on Instagram, the Black Panther Bust is apparently not selling too well so far. We've already talked about the bust a lot, but is anyone here buying it?

I'll be getting it from the LEGO Store when I go home next weekend. I still think it's overpriced, but it is a huge build and I want to see how it feels in person. If LEGO does several busts like this I'm out, though. I'd love an Iron Man bust that lights up but if they start giving every (helmeted) Marvel hero a bust they're going to be impossible to collect.

[BusterNut31]

One more hour and we will get a hint of the 500 dollar set…im nervous.

[Legocentrico]

2 minuti fa, BusterNut31 ha detto:

Un'ora in più e avremo un accenno del set da 500 dollari... sono nervoso.

we will have the confirmation that it does not exist 😂

Edited October 2, 2022 by Legocentrico

[PsychoBuilder]

Alright, hopefully this is the last time I say this: place your final bets now, everyone!

[Mandalorianknight]

3 hours ago, Scarilian said:

Personally, considering how many new characters would be required I doubt we'll end up seeing No Way Home legacy sets at all, as you'd need Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Lizard, Electro, Sandman, Tobey Spider-man and Andrew Spider-man - that's quite a few figures and we are starting to reach the point of four/five films a year.

Yeah, but lego has to know how well it would sell. Aside from some scattered mechs, I haven't bought lego marvel since endgame (Though it'll change if I can find a discount on the bugle), but I would spend hundreds on a NWH set.

12 minutes ago, Brickroll said:

Alright, hopefully this is the last time I say this: place your final bets now, everyone!

I'm cheating and giving you 4:

1: Hulkbuster

2: Avengers tower

3: Don cheadle bust 

4. (out of left field guess) Oscorp

[Falconfan1414]

3 hours ago, Scarilian said:

According to a survey by Falconfan1414 on Instagram, the Black Panther Bust is apparently not selling too well so far. We've already talked about the bust a lot, but is anyone here buying it?

 

Actually it gets worse. More and more stores employees are saying that they have messaged me saying it’s not selling in their stores. Maybe one or two copies at some stores but a good chunk are saying no one is buying it. Again it’s just initial reactions and not actual sales numbers but most stores seem to indicate avatar has sold better 

Edited October 2, 2022 by Falconfan1414

[BusterNut31]

Giant Hulkbuster is another head scratcher for me! Huge budget from lego marvel going to these huge non minifig scale sets. Mmmm cool i guess but not something im buying. 

[hvader]

28 minutes ago, Falconfan1414 said:

Actually it gets worse. More and more stores employees are saying that they have messaged me saying it’s not selling in their stores. Maybe one or two copies at some stores but a good chunk are saying no one is buying it. Again it’s just initial reactions and not actual sales numbers but most stores seem to indicate avatar has sold better 

Lego needs to drop the price to $300 or below or this set will become a gigantic flop

Also what an L year for Lego Marvel... I love Hulkbuster but a $550 one is just insane

[Ghostcat]

Im sad if its the Mk48 buster.

Lego coulda made a selling point of the first buster if the mk43 buildable could fit inside!

[VincentLord]

The price per part ratio on the Hulkbuster MK2 is a little scary (4049 for $550) but I reckon there's going to be lots of big pieces in it. Personally, I'm a little iffy on the news as I think I prefer the Mark 1 a bit, but I don't think I'm really in the market for a 70 cm tall Hulkbuster anyways. Eager to see pictures though.

As for the Black Panther Bust not selling very well yet (based on anecdotal evidence), I am not entirely surprised. I am actually one of the people who think it looks fantastic but it is a very particular kind of item at a very high price. I haven't seen it in the flesh yet, but I don't think it's something that is very suitable to be put in a living room like some of the other recent premium price-point sets (like the Hogwarts Express or the Lighthouse) are. I think a smaller one would have done gangbusters though.

[THELEGOBATMAN]

And the biggest Marvel set ever is... our fifth Hulkbuster, that costs 550€ with barely 4000 pieces — and a single minifigure, that isn't even interesting 

[hvader]

I kind of hope that this is like that Bowser set in terms of mechanics. That’d be kind of fun.

Also, would it be possible to get Banner and Cull Obsidian here as well??

[Frizzlefry25]

Even if it's a great build, I think the prices for these sets are the issue. It used to be 1-2 large sets for all lego themes might have been $300 plus. Now you have a $350 marvel sculpture, $550 Hulkbuster, a $600 Razorcrest, and a Harry Potter train for $500 all within a few months, and I am sure there are more!

If these sets were in the $200-$350 I would probably be interested in multiple, instead im getting none of them.

[cosmic]

I was revisiting  the new Spiderman figure and I just want to say, adding the webbing detail to the red on his arms is nice, but wish they added it to the legs. It’s kind of like the Batman situation, they think they can get away with just dual molding legs, but his boots are indented with the shape of a bat at the top of the boot where it meets his costume/knees. Dual molding is not enough. Likewise, Spiderman should have the web detailing on the red both on his arms but also his feet. So printing that detail on his arms but leaving him with just dual molded red and blue legs looks so awkward and unfinished imo.

 

if anything the inevitable poor sales of this year can be a positive for the theme moving forward. I have no doubt the Daily Bugle and Sanctum will perform better than the Black Panther bust and Hulkbuster $550 set (yes it went up 50 bucks, so I heard). If this ends up being the case, and Lego compares the 4 releases, they may decide it is more profitable to release NYC buildings with lots of figures rather than over-scaled display sets with no figures. And what would that mean? Well that we’re more likely to see an X-Mansion, Baxter Building, Stark Tower or Avengers Tower/Mansion moving forward. 
 

that is of course, assuming Lego actually chooses to continue producing the more profitable archetype. 

[AndrewCole14]

An easy skip, the last Hulkbuster did nothing for me and at this price point and with just another Iron Man minifigure this one will likely be the same.

[Mandalorianknight]

1 hour ago, Falconfan1414 said:

Actually it gets worse. More and more stores employees are saying that they have messaged me saying it’s not selling in their stores. Maybe one or two copies at some stores but a good chunk are saying no one is buying it. Again it’s just initial reactions and not actual sales numbers but most stores seem to indicate avatar has sold better 

Not that I was even close to the only one to do so, but I totally called that this would flop (if it does indeed continue to trend the way it is). I mean, c'mon, really? Who at Lego thought this was a smart move?

I will look forewards to the cheaper prices of many black parts caused by bricklink sellers buying and parting out this set when it hits absurd discounts.

 

As for the $550 hulkbuster... man, I think a hulkbuster would do great in theory, but it's like they're TRYING to kill the set. Less popular hulkbuster version, bad PPP, only one figure that doesn't fit the movie and is pretty similar to one we already got in a cheaper set to obtain, etc. 

[PGBQW]

Don't worry, guys! If we don't like this Hulkbuster we'll only have to wait a couple years until lego remakes it again!

[Scarilian]

TLDR:

• $550 (Inflation is a pain, originally intended to be $500)
• 4049 pieces, many of these are big pieces.
• Is big/tall
• Tony Stark figure, the one we've seen

4049 pieces for $550 is kinda crazy and that's before price fluctuations based on locations. I think $550 is a very difficult sell, $500 would be a much easier sell judging via just the price to parts ratio but even that would have been a little over what the cost should be which would be more logical at around $450. HOWEVER I'm aware the pieces for this set are big. This is going to be a big Hulkbuster. I think the scale could help convince people once they see it.

I've saved up £50 on VIP points and hopefully it's going to wind up being part of a double/triple VIP points or maybe associated with some November promotions that can be sold to recoup some of the cost. I'd encourage everyone not to dismiss it just yet. Let us see images first, especially ones that help to demonstrate the scale of the set.

29 minutes ago, Mandalorianknight said:

As for the $550 hulkbuster... man, I think a hulkbuster would do great in theory, but it's like they're TRYING to kill the set. Less popular hulkbuster version, bad PPP, only one figure that doesn't fit the movie and is pretty similar to one we already got in a cheaper set to obtain, etc. 

1. It may be the AoU Hulkbuster Mark 2 (E.g. a re-do of the MK48) as opposed to a Hulkbuster Mark 2 judging from comments that have been relayed it sounds like it's combining elements of both so it's not a direct adaptation of one version or the other despite the title.
2. In terms of the Price Per Piece the pieces are big. The set is big. The inflation is a massive pain and it will negatively impact sales, but I do think from what I've heard that it would have been something I could see people dropping $500 on.
3. In terms of the figure, as per the first point I would not write it off entirely. It's intentionally a variation of a figure most people already have because Lego are trying to stray away from the complaint of really important figures being locked behind high priced sets - which is why it's from a very short scene in AoU and barely of any focus. Great for collectors but not a massive miss for fans and casual fans have alternatives.

Hopefully we get official images soon.

1 hour ago, Falconfan1414 said:

Actually it gets worse. More and more stores employees are saying that they have messaged me saying it’s not selling in their stores. Maybe one or two copies at some stores but a good chunk are saying no one is buying it. Again it’s just initial reactions and not actual sales numbers but most stores seem to indicate avatar has sold better 

Makes sense, globally most places are in a bad financial position and an expensive set is going to be difficult even ignoring other factors.

Edited October 2, 2022 by Scarilian