[TC20] 5541 (10151) Blue Fury remaster

[osterum]

Hi, everybody

The new contest promises to be interesting, so I decided to take part.
My choice fell on the set 5541, also known as the number 10151 (reissue). He is quite famous among the fans of the LEGO

Initially, it was decided to build a set in the studio to determine the dimension. In fact, the old build view imposes some features on a building of MOC. For example, a wheelbase of 19.5 studs and an even width. I don't know yet whether to leave it like this or make a new-style body with an odd width. There is also the question of whether to add a working fake engine. On the one hand, this would be appropriate here, but on the other hand, there is no such function in the original set.

 

So, what do you think about the width and the engine? Write your opinion about it, thanks

[amorti]

A fake v4 or even a pullback motor would both add a feature, but both be appropriate in technic vehicles of the scale.

You'd be mad to force it into an even-width, half-stud long chassis and you'd never find a modern official set like that.

[osterum]

1 minute ago, amorti said:

A fake v4 or even a pullback motor

I'm thinking about V8))

[amorti]

The vehicle wants a V8, but I think classic pistons would look better. There is something fun about the clacky sounds of a  mini motor though.

[howitzer]

You should definitely go with odd width.

The original had a fake engine, it just wasn't connected to the wheels, so adding a drivetrain and fake engine that actually moves would be a feature this sort of set would include if it were released today. So yeah, put a proper fake engine in there.

[1974]

4 minutes ago, howitzer said:

You should definitely go with odd width.

The original had a fake engine, it just wasn't connected to the wheels, so adding a drivetrain and fake engine that actually moves would be a feature this sort of set would include if it were released today. So yeah, put a proper fake engine in there.

The original had a decorative engine, I wouldn't really call it "fake" as a fake engine in this forum seems to apply to something with moving pistons and not an electrical motor

Also, if this set was released today it would be a Creator vehicle and thus not include a fake engine with moving pistons

Model Team shares much more with current Creator sets than Technic sets. I don't know who thought it would be a good idea to lump these two themes into one forum just because some AFOLs collect both

Edited June 4, 2021 by 1974

[howitzer]

1 minute ago, 1974 said:

The original had a decorative engine, I wouldn't really call it "fake" as a fake engine in this forum seems to apply to something with moving pistons and not an electrical motor

Also, if this set was released today it would be a Creator vehicle and thus not include a fake engine with moving pistons

Yeah, but we're rebuilding these sets into Technic, so such a set would definitely include a fake engine. 

[1974]

And thus an engine with moving pistons would indeed be a good idea. I was merely miffed by the idea that the original set had a fake engine as in THIS forum a fake engine means a moving piston thingy

[amorti]

Or a pullback engine. Honestly I think that's where this set would go these days.

[osterum]

On 6/4/2021 at 10:03 PM, 1974 said:

The original had a decorative engine, I wouldn't really call it "fake" as a fake engine in this forum seems to apply to something with moving pistons and not an electrical motor

Also, if this set was released today it would be a Creator vehicle and thus not include a fake engine with moving pistons

Yes, I really mean an engine with moving pistons. After all, the essence of the competition is to build a model in technic style. So I think this would be appropriate in the event that the engine in the old set is important (not just the slightest or even hidden part of the model)

So I built what I want to see in my model. I seriously think that it is better than a not working moulage (at least for the technic car)

[amorti]

Could anything be done with 49668, so the piston only rose once per revolution?

Not tried it, guess it'd be too steep of a ramp, but might be an idea.

[osterum]

2 minutes ago, amorti said:

Could anything be done with 49668, so the piston only rose once per revolution?

May be, but my task is to make the engine no wider than 6 studs (as close as possible to the original).

[osterum]

Hello everybody! After a long break, I return to the model again. The working chassis is ready. There is an engine with working pistons and a steering system. All dimensions are identical to the original set, including width, length, wheel position, steering system. At the end of the work, I will build a model in stud.io, so that you can see for yourself my words.

(sorry for the photo quality)

Edited July 9, 2021 by osterum

[osterum]

A little progress on exterior 

Edited July 12, 2021 by osterum

[Thirdwigg]

Looking good. Those blue panels looks great on this build.

[1gor]

On 6/4/2021 at 6:55 PM, osterum said:

I'm thinking about V8))

I have made V8 hotrod few years ago with those tires and 15 studs overall width, so I think V8 (perhaps suspension) with differential and steering would be nice... This could be an inspiration 

[skaah]

yes, the blue panels is NPU! 

[osterum]

On 7/12/2021 at 6:49 PM, Thirdwigg said:

Those blue panels looks great on this build

Oh, thanks, this was the best variant of all that I went through

 

Hey, @Jim, can I use such a connection, or is it illegal?

[Jim]

Not sure if it's "illegal", but you are okay to use it.

[osterum]

Okay, the main part is completed. Someone may say that I am in a hurry, but I am leaving my hometown the other day, so there is very little time left. Soon you will see more detailed photos and a comparison with the original

[osterum]

Here is a comparison of my model with the original. I think you may notice inconsistencies, but you should understand that this model was built from scratch, and not just according to the instructions from new parts

You can download a 3D model for the stud.io program from this link: https://rebrickable.com/mocs/MOC-82217/osterum/5541-10151-blue-fury-remastered-in-technic/

 

 

[SaperPL]

Looks really cool.

There are some details thought that I would try making differently:

• The black roof at the back that is collapsed - you could try making it from black curved panels and figure out the body underneath. Right now it looks like some pipes and there are gaps.
• The windshield construction is really good, but there are attachment points at the sides - I would add mirror's to those attachment points.
• I think you should make the grill with Technic pieces. This is an important piece that is significant part of the car aesthetic

[osterum]

On 7/16/2021 at 4:29 PM, SaperPL said:

The black roof at the back that is collapsed - you could try making it from black curved panels and figure out the body underneath. Right now it looks like some pipes and there are gaps.

Thank you for your feedback about the model! I think that curved panels are too large for a small car, because I tried to bring all the dimensions of the model closer to the original

On 7/16/2021 at 4:29 PM, SaperPL said:

I think you should make the grill with Technic pieces. This is an important piece that is significant part of the car aesthetic

I agree, but the technic parts (liftarm thin?) would be too wide