jodawill Posted June 17 Posted June 17 Yeah, I agree with danth. This is an extremely boring set. It doesn't seem to be a very compelling pinball experience. The minifigure has mostly been released already and now I'm extremely annoyed that I bought the ones with yellow hands, not that it was one of my top color choices anyway. I didn't have high expectations for this set, but it's underwhelming no matter how you look at it. I was really hoping we would at least get a couple good classic space parts out of it, but there's absolutely nothing here I'm interested in buying. I don't know who this set is for. Quote
danth Posted June 17 Posted June 17 (edited) Honestly, I'm almost angry at how bad at is, even ignoring the lack of tie-in to Lego Space. For an idea of what this could have been, with about the same number of pieces...LOOK HOW GOOD THIS IS: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZaus6zO6ff/ Edited June 17 by danth Quote
Lyichir Posted June 17 Author Posted June 17 I dunno if I agree. That one seems almost too busy and cluttered, and relies on a lot of electronics for its looks (yet does not do actually useful things with those electronics, like keep score in any way despite the multiple non-functional score and multiplier labels). I kind of prefer the simpler brick-built arrows and lights on this one along with the fun mechanical feature of the astronaut elevating based on your performance (a novel way of creating a performance-based objective without electronic scorekeeping). That's not even getting into the tacky pseudo-Star Wars designs of its themed models. It's not exactly a Classic Space homage beyond the figure choice, but I see plenty of reasons I'd prefer this new set over this clone set that comes across to me as more style over substance. Quote
danth Posted June 18 Posted June 18 (edited) I would argue that "busy and cluttered" are good things in pinball. Seriously, go look at actual pinball games. They have so much going on! Basically, this pinball set has two spinners, one bash target, and one ramp. Where are the bumpers though? And the standard slingshots above the flippers? I realize this is Lego, but you can't leave out the basics! The fake Star Wars spaceships in the Guly set are better than nothing. The Lego set should have at least a couple small spaceship builds, or what is even the point? Stuff like that is standard in pinball games. See this Terminator pinball machine with Terminator head and vehicle. You gotta have things to look at! Also the Guly set has brick built arrows too. And they light up! I don't know about this style over substance talk when the Lego set has almost no style or substance. The ramp and the "score" count gimmick are cool but not enough. I think bumpers, some space ship "clutter", and large prints (not stickers) of something from the past 40 years of Lego Space lore (even some theme I don't like as much like Alien Conquest) would have saved this set. Edited June 18 by danth Quote
danth Posted June 18 Posted June 18 Reading the comments on the Brickset article is cathartic and vindicating. https://brickset.com/article/132548/lego-11374-arcade-pinball-machine-revealed-with-new-classic-space-minifigures! Basically a lot of people saying what I'm saying. It's boring, not enough pinball features, not actually Space themed (Classic or otherwise), and the stickers suck. Quote
RichardGoring Posted June 18 Posted June 18 I like it as a thing made of LEGO and at first glance it looks good. My initial reaction is that it's very clever to have made a pinball machine out of LEGO. But at $230, you're paying so much more than you would for a similar sized, but still more detailed and complex pinball machine. There are some for just $30 on Amazon. And some for $30 where you construct it out of wooden pieces, so you can even get a build experience from it. That is true of many things though. What I'm not convinced about is whether the build experience will be any good. I got to build the table football set and it was so dense with parts to make it structurally sound, that it didn't have the joy of clever techniques or delightful NPU that you get from many other sets. It was just a very heavy, dense, robust, and therefore expensive, block of LEGO. And it couldn't have been anything else, given what it was required to do. It was probably just a poor choice of subject matter. That's what worries me about this. Maybe reviews will tell me that the build is actually incredible and I will be wrong. But then, you come back to whether it's better to have a thing made of LEGO vs a more detailed and more functional non-LEGO version of the same thing. Edited to add: I do like the brick built arrows in the floor of the ball area, which is really neat. Quote
RichardGoring Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Video review from Cheesey Studios. And the statement "I genuinely did not enjoy the build process at all on this one, until the last couple of bags..." which is really worrying. The review is mostly focused on the play, which is cool for LEGO, but not great for pinball. It's as I feared based on the table football set. Such a shame. Still like the overall look of it though. The new blue violet colour goes well with black. Quote
Space78 Posted June 20 Posted June 20 Yeah, saw his video review yesterday. Glad he was pretty thorough. This is just too basic for the price. I mean, there are only two things to aim for - the gray boulder to move the scoring, and the ramp (which gets you nothing on the scoring). That's it. I think ages 3 - 99 will get bored with this pretty quickly, so not much value as a functional model, and the price is just too steep for what it is. It's an easy pass for me. Quote
SpacePolice89 Posted June 27 Posted June 27 Yesterday I built the upscaled blue Classic Space astronaut and I have to say that I really like how it looks. Quote
SpacePolice89 Posted June 27 Posted June 27 A picture from the instructions Of those sets I have 6820 and 6702. Quote
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