Capt_Jim Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 June 29. Steven Spielberg. David Koepp. Will be the best alien invasion mvoe ever. Quote
eDeevo Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 It better be... considering the hype so far... they have been building it up to be epic, if it falls short, it may end up an epic disaster... although, I always give Steven Spielberg the benefit of the doubt... that man is a master of his craft... Life is Good. Quote
The Middleman Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 I'm reading reeeeeeally good reviews of it. Definitely a first-day flick. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted June 27, 2005 Governor Posted June 27, 2005 I saw the documentary "War of the Worlds: From H.G Welles to Steven Spielberg" last night. It looks very good indeed. Not another mindless action invasion eye-candy showcase (E.g. Independence Day), but a movie with much emotion and intensity... Quote
Mr. Lego-builder Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 I've read the book. So I won't ruin it for you guys... ;) Quote
The Middleman Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 I've read the book. So I won't ruin it for you guys... ;) The movie - like always - is supposed to be quite different from the book. Quote
eDeevo Posted June 27, 2005 Posted June 27, 2005 I've read the book. So I won't ruin it for you guys... ;) Um, I've seen the original movie... from 1953... it's supposed to be the same story with (obviously) better special effects... so I won't ruin it for you ;) Life is Good. Quote
Capt_Jim Posted June 27, 2005 Author Posted June 27, 2005 This movie will be closer to the book. See the heat-ray and tripods are in the trailers, not anti-matter rays and flying swanships. Quote
Wolf04 Posted June 28, 2005 Posted June 28, 2005 I got a version of War of the Worlds, this one: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425638/ It came out earlier this month and since it's made by a small company, I heard it's pretty cheesy. I'll watch it tomorrow and I am planning to watch the Spielberg version on Thursday with friends after we pick up reports but I'm not sure yet. This cheesy version is actually much closer to the novel than the Spielberg version as it is set in the past and not in the present. As a note, Spielberg's version only uses the main idea for the movie but it is VERY different. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted June 28, 2005 Governor Posted June 28, 2005 I've read the book. So I won't ruin it for you guys... ;) Um, I've seen the original movie... from 1953... it's supposed to be the same story with (obviously) better special effects... so I won't ruin it for you ;) Life is Good. I've seen the 1953 movie as well... But watching older movies is not useful for getting an accurate impression of upcoming movies. Unless its a scene for scene remake like Psycho, the newer movies are usually completely different in many aspects. From watching "War of the Worlds: From H.G Welles to Steven Spielberg" this latest movie does differ rather significantly. The former had a stronger emphasis on the military and love story between the central characters, while the newer places emphasis on the main character and his family in a survival situation. Quote
Darth_Ewok Posted July 1, 2005 Posted July 1, 2005 I just saw it yesterday. IT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!! :oD :oD the special effects were AMAZING and it was scary to!!! :oD Quote
Capt_Jim Posted July 3, 2005 Author Posted July 3, 2005 Oh My God. What a good movie. No scientist crap or any info on where they came from (Though Mars is hinted at during the beginning scenes) and it's REALISTIC. Let's face it, if Alien Invasion came, it wouldn't be ID4 where survivors band together. Now that would happen, but a huge amount of people would be thinking only of themselves and would kill anyone to get in the way. Don't listen to the crap about this movie being completely different from the book. Aside from the time period, not much changes. SPOILERS. The ending was great, I thought Justin Chatwin would live! And I loved that the army got to kill an alien ship. Finally, after Japan killed a few (Listen to Tim Robbins' character), the US army got to draw some blood! Every actor was great, even the extras! I am forever grateful that Steven Spielberg created a great Alien Invasion movie that's realistic for the public to watch. d:d . Quote
ApophisV Posted July 4, 2005 Posted July 4, 2005 Whoaw... That was... frightening.... :() 8-| This really is a crazy and amazing movie, really worth to watch!!! Dakota Fanning is one of the best actors I've seen recently, she did such a great job, especially considering here age! :oo ++++++SPOILER WARNING!!!!++++++ Some negative things: - Why did the son survive? (THAT he did isn't the problem, but an explanation had been nice...) - Strange alien design, but a bit too cute. - The aliens are shown too soon, I wish they had done it like the original and just shown them at the ending. - What about the deactivated shield / bird thing? Is the deactivation related to the desease? If so, why is the walker itself still working??? The shield controling guy died first? (Not possible because this thing has just one pilot) - One point of criticism that also goes for the book: If those aliens plan the whole thing since millions and billions of years, WHY THE HECK don't they think of their own health???? - Why are all the electrical things at the electrical things (temporarely) destroyed while one guy is still able to use his camera at the scene where the first walker appears? And some coooool points: - As already mentioned: Fanning plays :')... Great! Cruise also does great work! - The first scenes with the walker are just soooo shocking.... :() Same goes for all the other scenes where they are pursuited by the walkers and such... - The overall effects are really cool - Snake camera scene: 8-| *sick* Scary - Mass panic scenes (especially the one where they lose the car): :oo Shocking - Nice design of the walkers and aliens (though those are somehow cute) NIIIIIICELY DONE!!!!! GO WATCH IT!!! Quote
Capt_Jim Posted July 4, 2005 Author Posted July 4, 2005 The aliens were shown in the basement in the 1953 one. Quote
Brickmaster Posted July 5, 2005 Posted July 5, 2005 i saw it twice in a row, its quite good, i really like the snake camera thing, a bit unbeleivable how the ran around in th elittle basement and avioded it but oh well :) Quote
ApophisV Posted July 5, 2005 Posted July 5, 2005 The aliens were shown in the basement in the 1953 one. Really? Don't remember that scene. But might be possible, have seen the movie when I was ten or eleven, so many years ago... Oh, another thing I really liked: The last scene were the pilot of one walker dies and his hand hangs out of the opened "door": So classical! Quote
languages Posted July 5, 2005 Posted July 5, 2005 This movie was AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D Quote
Capt_Jim Posted July 6, 2005 Author Posted July 6, 2005 The aliens were shown in the basement in the 1953 one. Really? Don't remember that scene. But might be possible, have seen the movie when I was ten or eleven, so many years ago... Oh, another thing I really liked: The last scene were the pilot of one walker dies and his hand hangs out of the opened "door": So classical! Yes, this is what happens: Syliva Van Buren is in a bombed-out house with Dr. Forrester. Stuff happens, alien grabs Sylvia, Dr. Forrester throwes axe at alien, alien runs away, people leave house, alien incinerates house. Quote
ApophisV Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 Yes, this is what happens:Syliva Van Buren is in a bombed-out house with Dr. Forrester. Stuff happens, alien grabs Sylvia, Dr. Forrester throwes axe at alien, alien runs away, people leave house, alien incinerates house. A friend bought the DVD of the 53's movie and we watched it! Soooo cool!!! Bad acting, bad stages, cool (for the 50's at least) "cgi"... I really enjoyed it... *wub* Quote
Darth_Ewok Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 What about the deactivated shield / bird thing? Is the deactivation related to the desease? If so, why is the walker itself still working??? The shield controling guy died first? (Not possible because this thing has just one pilot)- One point of criticism that also goes for the book: If those aliens plan the whole thing since millions and billions of years, WHY THE HECK don't they think of their own health???? - Why are all the electrical things at the electrical things (temporarely) destroyed while one guy is still able to use his camera at the scene where the first walker appears? #1 My personal opinion on the first one is that if the alies are not CONSTANTLY maintaining the robots then they malfunction. which explains why the sheilds went down because the aliens were dying of diesese. most likely the alien survived long enough to keep the walker moving but as his health declined he couldn't keep it all working right. #2 Maybe they overlooked our diesese's and thought they would be safe in their robots. but since they came from other planets they weren't as immune as we were. which is what it says at the end. it says something like: humanity has build up immunities which allow us to survive (but he says that in alot more words) #3 when I saw that I said the same thing. maybe his camera was one of the first things to come on, then other things. which explained why the car started working. GREAT MOVIE! :-D Quote
ApophisV Posted July 7, 2005 Posted July 7, 2005 #1 My personal opinion on the first one is that if the alies are not CONSTANTLY maintaining the robots then they malfunction. which explains why the sheilds went down because the aliens were dying of diesese. most likely the alien survived long enough to keep the walker moving but as his health declined he couldn't keep it all working right. So they have to push a button instantely to keep the shield activated??? "Whaaa... too weak to push it anymore...." #2 Maybe they overlooked our diesese's and thought they would be safe in their robots. but since they came from other planets they weren't as immune as we were. which is what it says at the end. it says something like: humanity has build up immunities which allow us to survive (but he says that in alot more words) Save in their robots? Why are they running around the farm house and drinking water then? #3 when I saw that I said the same thing. maybe his camera was one of the first things to come on, then other things. which explained why the car started working. The car started working because thue car workshop guy replaced one magnetic device! (Which was damaged by the EMP lightening I think) Quote
Darth_Ewok Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 #1 My personal opinion on the first one is that if the alies are not CONSTANTLY maintaining the robots then they malfunction. which explains why the sheilds went down because the aliens were dying of diesese. most likely the alien survived long enough to keep the walker moving but as his health declined he couldn't keep it all working right. So they have to push a button instantely to keep the shield activated??? "Whaaa... too weak to push it anymore...." #2 Maybe they overlooked our diesese's and thought they would be safe in their robots. but since they came from other planets they weren't as immune as we were. which is what it says at the end. it says something like: humanity has build up immunities which allow us to survive (but he says that in alot more words) Save in their robots? Why are they running around the farm house and drinking water then? #3 when I saw that I said the same thing. maybe his camera was one of the first things to come on, then other things. which explained why the car started working. The car started working because thue car workshop guy replaced one magnetic device! (Which was damaged by the EMP lightening I think) #1 No. maybe control of it is directly connected to their brains or something. #2 They went in there to see if there was anyone down there. after the snake thing didn't report anything in. #3 Forgot about that Quote
Capt_Jim Posted July 8, 2005 Author Posted July 8, 2005 AGHGHHHHH!!!!!11one I've had to reply to this (censored)ing bull(censored as well, it's for the best you know) crap on IMDB at least a thousand times. 1. THE MACHINES WERE PARTIALLY BIOLOGICAL. Aliens get sick, they get sick. 2. The aliens did not keep up with newcoming bacteria, OR it was Nature's reaction to the red weed. 3. (Taken directly from IMDB.com) OK, I'm kinda getting tired of explaining this to everyone... so here's one last go at it. THERE ARE NO PLOT HOLES IN THIS MOVIE WITH REGARDS TO THE EFFECTS OF EMP CAUSED BY THE ALIEN LIGHTNING! EMP = Electro-Magnetic Pulse, a phenomenon first discovered in the Pacific during US nuclear tests in the 1950s. EMP is a pulse of electromagnetic radiation generated by a nuclear detonation. EMP has the ability to "short out" electronic devices, rendering them inoperable. It's speculated in War of the Worlds that the alien lightning generates a form of EMP that affects electronics in its immediate vicinity. 1. Most military vehicles are "hardened" against EMP, meaning they're more resistant, or even immune, to EMP. That's why all of the military Humvees, tanks, helicopters, jets, etc. would all work. (The reason for doing this should be obvious: In a war, you don't want your gear and vehicles shutting down because the enemy detonates a nuke anywhere near you.) 2. The ferry was nowhere near a lightning attack, meaning the EMP wouldn't have been there, anyway. Even if it was, a ferry is such a simple piece of machinery that it's probably immune to EMP anyway. (EMP affects integrated circuits. An old ferry may not contain any, at least not in its vital propulsion systems.) 3. Anything turned OFF at the time of the EMP might be spared its effects. Most cars are always ON in some way, so they'd all be affected, except for very old cars with no ICs. The van that Ray took had been REPAIRED after the EMP, which is why it worked. Most people would not have had the chance to have their vehicle repaired, which explains the lack of civilian vehicles. The WCBS news van was in the Pine Barrens of New Jersey, away from the EMPs. 4. Similarly, the camcorder and other cameras in use after the alien lightning may have been turned OFF when the EMP hit, meaning they would still work later on. Of course, since the EMP-effect caused by the alien lightning is not nuke-generated EMP, it might work somewhat differently. In other words, all bets are off. NOW READ THAT BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A TEST ON IT Quote
ApophisV Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 Okay, I'm satisfied with point one ("biological" ships or at least mind controled ones). Point three is clear now too. (Hadn't known that EMPs only affect systems that are running). But... For point two: What still annoys me is the fact that the aliens aren't a bit more careful about their health. Finally they jump off their vehicles (where they probably were save!), don't even walk around a new and unknown environement but ALSO interact with it (drinking water). This means in my eyes that they a) were lazy about checking out for bacterias or b) they just didn't know about this danger. Both points would mean that they hadn't done their homeworks properly. Seems unrealistic for me because if somebody plans such an invasion for millions of years they should have been able to see every single little aspect of this invasion! Quote
DoubleT Posted July 8, 2005 Posted July 8, 2005 I just think its alittle thing that also let man into trouble.....The Mars People are Curious...... They are a new place, and are just Curious like we are, see the scene in the bastemt, they look at pictures taste water etc...... And yes I think its natures way to stop intruders... Look at natur now, if some thing different or out of place happends. Nature takes care of it.... Quote
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