Shroffy123 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 21 minutes ago, Alcarin said: If Rivendell was more or less perfect set, this Shire set leaves alot to be desired in my eyes as LOTR fan... Id rather have Gondor stuff tbh. Same here. Still surprises me that - excluding Boromir minif fig- lego has not released anything Gondor related. Quote
hikouki Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Alcarin said: If Rivendell was more or less perfect set, this Shire set leaves alot to be desired in my eyes as LOTR fan... Id rather have Gondor stuff tbh. 11 minutes ago, Shroffy123 said: Same here. Still surprises me that - excluding Boromir minif fig- lego has not released anything Gondor related. I feel like Lego is trying to appeal to kids this time. LOL Cheerful theme with lots of side builds. And can be made in this 'cheaper' price point, as many have asked for. I would rather prefer future LOTR sets be masterpieces as well. Edited March 31 by hikouki Quote
Alcarin Posted March 31 Posted March 31 6 minutes ago, hikouki said: I feel like Lego is trying to appeal to kids this time. LOL Cheerful theme with lots of side builds. And can be made in this 'cheaper' price point, as many have asked for. I would rather prefer future LOTR sets be masterpieces as well. Tbh I dont need them to be masterpieces... I mean sure I would love more Rivendell type of sets that cover extra locations (White tower, courtyard, etc...) but I would not mind proper playsets and ESPECIALLY army builders like SW gets them... Give me a set with Gondor Tower Guard + 3 Gondor soldiers where 1 is archer and 2 have shields and swords... or 1 Ranger + 3 Gondor Soldiers... Quote
wesker Posted March 31 Posted March 31 I can take or leave army builders honestly. Completing the main cast of characters is a much higher priority for me. Eowyn, Faramir, Denethor and the Witch-King are all long overdue and need to happen sooner rather than later. Lego has been putting them off long enough. Gandalf the White, Saruman, Galadriel, Eomer, Theoden and even Haldir are also in dire need a modern re-release as their older figures now suffer from either deteriorating rubber hairpieces or brittle brown/dark red/gold plastic that shatters apart. The Hobbit minifigures are even worse in that regard but unfortunately I don't see Lego revisiting those characters anytime soon. Quote
Alcarin Posted March 31 Posted March 31 53 minutes ago, wesker said: I can take or leave army builders honestly. Completing the main cast of characters is a much higher priority for me. Eowyn, Faramir, Denethor and the Witch-King are all long overdue and need to happen sooner rather than later. Lego has been putting them off long enough. Gandalf the White, Saruman, Galadriel, Eomer, Theoden and even Haldir are also in dire need a modern re-release as their older figures now suffer from either deteriorating rubber hairpieces or brittle brown/dark red/gold plastic that shatters apart. The Hobbit minifigures are even worse in that regard but unfortunately I don't see Lego revisiting those characters anytime soon. TBH, the point of LOTR was always fantasy battles, not those characters... its the perfect theme to army build really... Helm's deep with wall extension was an ok direction, but then it stopped for no good reason... Noone really wants 27 Theodens and Gandalfs :P But an army of Gondor and haradrim, Olifont hordes, Orcs, Rangers, etc... give us that... Quote
Cyprinus Posted March 31 Posted March 31 3 minutes ago, Alcarin said: TBH, the point of LOTR was always fantasy battles, not those characters... I'm pretty sure Tolkien would disagree. Strongly :P Quote
MAB Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 hour ago, wesker said: I can take or leave army builders honestly. Completing the main cast of characters is a much higher priority for me. Eowyn, Faramir, Denethor and the Witch-King are all long overdue and need to happen sooner rather than later. Lego has been putting them off long enough. Gandalf the White, Saruman, Galadriel, Eomer, Theoden and even Haldir are also in dire need a modern re-release as their older figures now suffer from either deteriorating rubber hairpieces or brittle brown/dark red/gold plastic that shatters apart. The Hobbit minifigures are even worse in that regard but unfortunately I don't see Lego revisiting those characters anytime soon. I find Eowyn and Denethor are generic enough that you can make decent minifigures from existing parts. Faramir is not too bad but really needs a Gondor torso to be done well. Obviously the Witch King is the hard one here as the helmet is so iconic, it essentially is him. Fortunately you can buy third party helmets (well, complete figures, but it is the helmet that is important) on aliexpress. I don't have any issue with my original Gandalf the White, Saruman, etc. All are as good as the day they were new. 34 minutes ago, Alcarin said: TBH, the point of LOTR was always fantasy battles, not those characters... its the perfect theme to army build really... Helm's deep with wall extension was an ok direction, but then it stopped for no good reason... Noone really wants 27 Theodens and Gandalfs :P But an army of Gondor and haradrim, Olifont hordes, Orcs, Rangers, etc... give us that... For me, the point of LOTR was the storyline of the (mainly) named characters, not just big battles and army building. I typically use about 5 Gandalfs and 2 Theodens at once, as I prefer small vignettes of different scenes. I have probably another 30 Gandalfs as they were dirt cheap about 12 years ago and the body parts make good generic rangers. That is not to say some Gondor and Haradrim soldiers would not be welcome but even then so long as they did a torso with enough detail on that woudl be fine for building a small army. Personally, I find huge armies lined up on a baseplate rather boring. Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted March 31 Posted March 31 I think completing the core characters and getting army builders are on the same level of importance. Both are central aspects of the story. We should be getting both. 6 hours ago, Alcarin said: If Rivendell was more or less perfect set, this Shire set leaves alot to be desired in my eyes as LOTR fan... Id rather have Gondor stuff tbh. I mean yes, we all want Gondor stuff because it’s long overdue. But the Shire is just an important of a location to the story, if not more so. Bag End needed a remake, this one was inevitable, and I think captures the essence of the place well enough. And I think now they can move on to things that haven’t been done yet. Quote
Alcarin Posted March 31 Posted March 31 21 minutes ago, Balrogofmorgoth said: I think completing the core characters and getting army builders are on the same level of importance. Both are central aspects of the story. We should be getting both. I mean yes, we all want Gondor stuff because it’s long overdue. But the Shire is just an important of a location to the story, if not more so. Bag End needed a remake, this one was inevitable, and I think captures the essence of the place well enough. And I think now they can move on to things that haven’t been done yet. Well to be honest, Bag End (original) was much better than Black Gates or most of other locations except for Helm's Deep and could use sooner remake really...Also Bag End is one of the most boring locations overall (movie wise) when you have so much more interesting locations from Minas Tirith, Minas Morgul, Grey havens, that give much more variety on the figs even that we lack. Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted March 31 Posted March 31 10 minutes ago, Alcarin said: Well to be honest, Bag End (original) was much better than Black Gates or most of other locations except for Helm's Deep and could use sooner remake really...Also Bag End is one of the most boring locations overall (movie wise) when you have so much more interesting locations from Minas Tirith, Minas Morgul, Grey havens, that give much more variety on the figs even that we lack. I mean from a viewpoint of just wanting places where battles take place, sure it’s more boring I guess in that regard. Personally, I don’t take that viewpoint. I think it’s a very crucial location that sets the stage for the whole story, and serves as Frodo’s motivation for the entirety of the Quest. I don’t find it any less interesting, I think it needed to be made. That’s not to say we shouldn’t still get those other locations too. Also I don’t care what anyone says, the old Bag End does not hold up very well today compared to this new one Quote
Cyprinus Posted March 31 Posted March 31 11 minutes ago, Alcarin said: Well to be honest, Bag End (original) was much better than Black Gates or most of other locations except for Helm's Deep and could use sooner remake really...Also Bag End is one of the most boring locations overall (movie wise) when you have so much more interesting locations from Minas Tirith, Minas Morgul, Grey havens, that give much more variety on the figs even that we lack. You're not getting Minas Morgul or Orhanc while Barad-Dur is on the shelves. The former probably not even once it retires. Gray Havens I find unlikely tbh, but it may be me. And the trouble with Minas Tirith is that the most iconic thing about it is the entire, multilayer city, which I don't see them doing justice at a reasonable price. And truth be told there aren't that many interesting locations there - you have the courtyard with the tree and... that is largely it? I don't see them making the pyre of Denethor, the throne room is an empty hall with a chair, leaving us with what, the beacon and the gate? Quote
Alcarin Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Cyprinus said: You're not getting Minas Morgul or Orhanc while Barad-Dur is on the shelves. The former probably not even once it retires. Gray Havens I find unlikely tbh, but it may be me. And the trouble with Minas Tirith is that the most iconic thing about it is the entire, multilayer city, which I don't see them doing justice at a reasonable price. And truth be told there aren't that many interesting locations there - you have the courtyard with the tree and... that is largely it? I don't see them making the pyre of Denethor, the throne room is an empty hall with a chair, leaving us with what, the beacon and the gate? Well getting the White Tower with Courtyard would for sure bring a nice contract to both Orthanc and Barad-Dur thats for sure... and we could get like 4x Fountain Guards + Faramir in Gondor soldier Attire + Denethor + another Gandalf + Pippin as Gondor soldier + even possibly Imrahil... And then add another 70$ or whatever set with Gates of Minas Tirith with like 4 orcs and 3 Gondor soldiers... (2x Archers + 1x pikeman and make sure there are 3 shields inside for army building) or even better divide the Grond + orcs and Gates + Gondor soldiers into 2x 50$ set and 5 1 sided figures only Would be great.. Edited March 31 by Alcarin Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted March 31 Posted March 31 If they do Minas Tirith, expect a really big price tag. Personally I’ll be willing to pay it since I want it badly enough, and have wanted it for so long. Aside from that I would love to see D2Cs of Helm’s Deep, Caras Caladhon, Meduseld, the Black Gate, Minas Morgul, and even an updated Orthanc. I’m sure some of those won’t ever happen but still. Obviously what I really want to see are playscale sets and battle packs to go along with the yearly D2Cs Quote
MAB Posted March 31 Posted March 31 6 minutes ago, Alcarin said: Well getting the White Tower with Courtyard would for sure bring a nice contract to both Orthanc and Barad-Dur thats for sure... and we could get like 4x Fountain Guards + Faramir in Gondor soldier Attire + Denethor + another Gandalf + Pippin as Gondor soldier + even possibly Imrahil... And then add another 70$ or whatever set with Gates of Minas Tirith with like 4 orcs and 3 Gondor soldiers... (2x Archers + 1x pikeman and make sure there are 3 shields inside for army building) or even better divide the Grond + orcs and Gates + Gondor soldiers into 2x 50$ set and 5 1 sided figures only Would be great.. LEGO aren't currently doing small/medium sized playsets for LOTR and I doubt that will change when the big adult sets are a success. If we get Minas Tirith, I expect to to be a big all-in-one set rather than spread out across multiple sets. They have shown with "The Shire" that they are willing to do one location in detail (Bag End) with other parts of the wider location done as separate builds. Thus it wouldn't surprise me if they did Minas Tirith as the facade of the hall and courtyard / tree as the main build, with a separate little rocky build with the beacon, and a bit of wall and the gate as a further separate build. One main build, two smaller side builds but all in the same adult focused box. When it comes to the White Tree of Gondor, I hope they use a different designer than for The Shire for obvious reasons. Quote
Cyprinus Posted March 31 Posted March 31 15 minutes ago, Alcarin said: Well getting the White Tower with Courtyard would for sure bring a nice contract to both Orthanc and Barad-Dur thats for sure... and we could get like 4x Fountain Guards + Faramir in Gondor soldier Attire + Denethor + another Gandalf + Pippin as Gondor soldier + even possibly Imrahil... And then add another 70$ or whatever set with Gates of Minas Tirith with like 4 orcs and 3 Gondor soldiers... (2x Archers + 1x pikeman and make sure there are 3 shields inside for army building) or even better divide the Grond + orcs and Gates + Gondor soldiers into 2x 50$ set and 5 1 sided figures only And that way disappointment is born. As MAB said, smaller sets aren't currently on the table (the book nook is its own thing, doesn't count here), but even if they were, I would sooner expect a 70$ gate having 2 soldiers and 2 orcs, each side getting 1 shield... Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted March 31 Posted March 31 The Grey Havens would be an absolutely beautiful set. I doubt it would get the D2C treatment but if it ever did, I would LOVE to see the five hobbits in their scene accurate clothes (really cool outfits if you really look at them), and then Gandalf, Elrond, Galadriel, and maybe even Círdan. They’ve shown with Harry Potter they are willing to make minifigs out of background characters you barely even see on screen. That would be a treat Quote
MAB Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) If they did the Grey Havens, I'd expect it to be a very nice boat and a bit of dockside. LEGO still loves boats. Edited March 31 by MAB Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 hour ago, MAB said: If they did the Grey Havens, I'd expect it to be a very nice boat and a bit of dockside. LEGO still loves boats. That’s what I think too. Maybe a small tower or something that they can use to show off techniques for Elven architecture. Quote
Black Falcon Posted March 31 Posted March 31 6 hours ago, Alcarin said: TBH, the point of LOTR was always fantasy battles, not those characters... its the perfect theme to army build really... Helm's deep with wall extension was an ok direction, but then it stopped for no good reason... Noone really wants 27 Theodens and Gandalfs :P But an army of Gondor and haradrim, Olifont hordes, Orcs, Rangers, etc... give us that... Well, I think whether it would be playsets or big sets, castle locations usually have both named characters and generic knights. And main characters like Frodo, Gandalf, Aragorn of course will happen to be included in several Sets over time - but there will also be characters only included in a certain set. 4 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said: I mean yes, we all want Gondor stuff because it’s long overdue. But the Shire is just an important of a location to the story, if not more so. Bag End needed a remake, this one was inevitable, and I think captures the essence of the place well enough. And I think now they can move on to things that haven’t been done yet. This, and also I think they probably wanted a less expensive Set in between, instead of just having a bigger, more expensive set each time. Whether we will get a big and expensive Set next time again, we will have to see, but I would say the chances are good, since I think the most likely options all seem to need "some" more bricks than the shire. Quote
Balrogofmorgoth Posted March 31 Posted March 31 35 minutes ago, Black Falcon said: Well, I think whether it would be playsets or big sets, castle locations usually have both named characters and generic knights. And main characters like Frodo, Gandalf, Aragorn of course will happen to be included in several Sets over time - but there will also be characters only included in a certain set. This, and also I think they probably wanted a less expensive Set in between, instead of just having a bigger, more expensive set each time. Whether we will get a big and expensive Set next time again, we will have to see, but I would say the chances are good, since I think the most likely options all seem to need "some" more bricks than the shire. Yeah I really can’t see any other D2Cs being less than $300-$400. Maybe Meduseld if they ever do it Quote
brickbride Posted March 31 Posted March 31 (edited) 12 hours ago, hikouki said: I feel like Lego is trying to appeal to kids this time. LOL Cheerful theme with lots of side builds. And can be made in this 'cheaper' price point, as many have asked for. I'd be laughing at the notion of a EUR 270 set being meant for kids if HP didn't already have a EUR 200 Hogwarts Great Hall to be followed by a EUR 250 Main Tower. That said, realistically you'd probably be able to count on one hand the number of kids who'd prefer the Shire to Hogwarts/Ninjago City/Heartlake City or who'd even know who Bilbo Baggins is. Edited March 31 by brickbride Quote
Black Falcon Posted March 31 Posted March 31 2 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said: Yeah I really can’t see any other D2Cs being less than $300-$400. Maybe Meduseld if they ever do it Actually, when I was writing the comment above, I was thinking about which other smaller Sets they could do, and this was exactly the thing that came to mind. All the other most Iconic (and most likely) Sets they could make would very likely be in a higher range. Quote
Lordhelmet Posted March 31 Posted March 31 What time does Lego.com update to purchase? Just wondering if it is like midnight based on timezone or region. Any idea for US buyers on the east coast? I have typically waited in line at the store to buy but can’t this time around, figured I could stay up to place the order. Quote
RichardGoring Posted March 31 Posted March 31 41 minutes ago, Lordhelmet said: What time does Lego.com update to purchase? Just wondering if it is like midnight based on timezone or region. Any idea for US buyers on the east coast? I have typically waited in line at the store to buy but can’t this time around, figured I could stay up to place the order. In the US, it's midnight EST across the entire US. So 21:00 for those on Pacific time. Quote
Lordhelmet Posted March 31 Posted March 31 1 minute ago, RichardGoring said: In the US, it's midnight EST across the entire US. So 21:00 for those on Pacific time. 2100 must be nice Quote
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