Harry Potter 2018 - Rumors & Discussion

[AJB]

Just now, Lego-Freak said:

@AJB: Nice suggestions, but I highly doubt that all five sets are gonna be HP ones  I except at least one or two of them to be based on CoG 

That's probably right. Although (again anecdotally) the FB sets haven't been selling as well. Newt's suitcase is good, but the Grindelwald escape one doesn't seem to interest anyone I know (I have one, but I intend to adapt the Thestral for Hogwarts rather than keep it for Grindelwald).

[RyanMe]

29 minutes ago, makoy said:

I don't believe anyone mentioned that. Where did you read that?

I think it is just common knowledge that Lego releases 3 cmf each year.  

[diepotato47]

Presumably one series will be Lego Movie 2, one would be Series 19, last one will hopefully be Harry Potter 2, but obviously that’s nothing but speculation and guesswork. 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

25 minutes ago, Kim-Kwang-Seok said:

with different arms, the female CMF elf looks really good. But I will get enough CMF Dumbledores to make like 8 versions - including Jude Law version, flashback version and so on
After all - in the  movies he wore like pretty much the same 2 outfits, while in the book Dumby was famous for his ridiculous robes  (including orange with flower kitting patterns )

Indeed, he wasn't bigger than Snape or the other teachers. But since he was skinny - and the CMF figure's accents (beard, hat) are quite wide, he does look tall

Makes sense, I had forgotten about the female elf they released. I love making different versions of each character as well, it makes it more interesting

 

Edited September 12, 2018 by Balrogofmorgoth

[BrickBob Studpants]

1 minute ago, RyanMe said:

I think it is just common knowledge that Lego releases 3 cmf each year.  

With a few exceptions, e.g the Team GB series in 2012, the DFB series in 2016 and this year's Unikitty! series  But you're right in that it's three regular series each year 

If the Simpsons and TLBM deserved two series each, I think WW does too. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind a second Disney series...

[makoy]

1 hour ago, RyanMe said:

I think it is just common knowledge that Lego releases 3 cmf each year.  

Yes, that's common knowledge. What about the 3 waves?

[joeee]

1 hour ago, AJB said:

That's probably right. Although (again anecdotally) the FB sets haven't been selling as well. Newt's suitcase is good, but the Grindelwald escape one doesn't seem to interest anyone I know (I have one, but I intend to adapt the Thestral for Hogwarts rather than keep it for Grindelwald).

The carriage works as a Hogwarts carriage as well! :) It was the only reason why I was mildly interested in the set. Although, I do love vehicles that isn't another car or helicopter!

[RyanMe]

33 minutes ago, makoy said:

Yes, that's common knowledge. What about the 3 waves?

I didn't see where anyone said there would be 3 waves of HP sets.

[Ferder]

2 hours ago, AJB said:

2) The Chamber of Secrets....the Chamber would ideally go underneath the Great Hall, but it wouldn't fit there and would ruin the little dock for the boat. 

Why would it go under the great hall? I get that it's supposed to be subterranean, but it's not accurate to the films or books for it to go there. It could just as well go under any part of the castle. It went under the Great Hall in the original 2001-2002 line but that changed the shape of the chamber to a hallway, having the two chamber walls run next to each other instead of parallel, across from each other. 

Edited September 12, 2018 by Ferder

[Balrogofmorgoth]

1 minute ago, Ferder said:

Why would it go under the great hall? I get that it's supposed to be subterranean, but it's not accurate to the films or books for it to go there. It could just as well go under any part of the castle. It went under the Great Hall in the original 2001-2002 line but that changed the shape of the chamber to a hallway, having the two chamber walls run next to each other instead of parallel, across from each other. 

I agree. Ever since the designers said they were originally going to include the chamber under the Great Hall in the Great Hall set, everyone assumes if they do eventually release the chamber, it will go under the Hall. That was only if they were going to include it in that particular set. Now if they did it, it most likely wouldn’t be in that spot 

[Roebuck]

10 minutes ago, Ferder said:

Why would it go under the great hall? I get that it's supposed to be subterranean, but it's not accurate to the films or books for it to go there. It could just as well go under any part of the castle. It went under the Great Hall in the original 2001-2002 line but that changed the shape of the chamber to a hallway, having the two chamber walls run next to each other instead of parallel, across from each other. 

If Lego wants to make a COS set they will have no trouble in doing so and making it fit with the other sets, and as you say that solution do not have to be under the GH..

 

I sent a mail to Lego and asked about the bricktober-set.. Apparently not the first to do it, since I got a answer full of HP references.. Basically they said they could not tell me, since that would ruin the surprise, but to keep close attention to the shop@home page since the magic happen there first. So I assume it will show up there in Norway also

[Nina]

3 hours ago, AJB said:

Yes, where I live (London) the sets are insanely popular. According to Lego store staff, the minifigures are the most popular they've ever had. 

I'm based in London too :) You're right, the craze for the minifigures here is amazing. In my lunch breaks I often witness hedge-fund managers and other seemingly soulless individuals as they rummage through minifigure boxes, desperately searching for Dobby or Luna... Restores my faith in humanity ;)

 

3 hours ago, AJB said:

As for this winter's sets, my guesses are: 1) Hagrid's Hut. 2) The Chamber of Secrets. 3) The Burrow. 4) Diagon Alley. 5) Duelling Club. 

Probably not so many sets? But the ideas sound quite likely. I expect there will be another knight bus too, as lego seems to think that no one buys sets without vehicles... 

 

In terms of recognising HP's potential--quite a few of the current lego designers are my generation I think, so they grew up with Potter. That makes me hopeful that they will do more than just revisit old sets and hopefully also make sets that are more whimsical. Fingers crossed! :)

 

1 hour ago, joeee said:

The carriage works as a Hogwarts carriage as well! :) It was the only reason why I was mildly interested in the set. 

I think the set is gorgeous, the reasons why it doesn't sell as well as other sets are probably that it's too expensive and that it features characters that no one cares about. I expect the Quidditch set and Aragog set are less popular than the rest among the Potter sets.

 

Generally I think Fantastic Beasts has a lot of potential. Anyone who watches the new trailer will come up with at least ten set ideas :) But of course the characters will never have the same appeal as in Potter, even though their clothes are nicer!

[Don Neimoidte de la Mancha]

4 hours ago, RyanMe said:

 

 

I believe Robert was referring to the fact we know there are 3 CMF series being released next year, not 3 waves of HP sets.

Ah ok it confused me 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

My Target finally got the HP polybags in stock today so I got twelve of them to make customs

[Venefic]

Any word on 2019 HP releases. Diagon Alley could be released before then. 

[JVM]

I think the set is gorgeous, the reasons why it doesn't sell as well as other sets are probably that it's too expensive and that it features characters that no one cares about.

I think this is the real problem. There is nothing in the Grindelwald's Escape set to appeal to a casual fan, really -- most casual LEGO buyers (parents and grandparents) would not see a carriage and a thestral as something terribly exciting, it's nothing flashy, and Piquery wasn't really a casually memorable character in the first film, and Grindelwald as himself's role there was momentary. As a dedicated fan, I find many of those elements interesting, but I know with realism that the market isn't going to buy based on any of that alone. The only perks it has are the upcoming release of the Fantastic Beasts film should give it a nice boost, and its one of the cheapest Wizarding World sets, period. Value plays a critical role with the casual, fickle buyer.

For contrast, in addition to sharing affordability versus the castle sets, the Aragog and Quidditch sets both include multiple key characters from the Harry Potter films and have the added advantage of nostalgia for those who loved any of the previous films (even if not all of them) but might not be interested in the newer Fantastic Beasts film. Those two elements alone will help them get more buys.

[AJB]

16 hours ago, joeee said:

The carriage works as a Hogwarts carriage as well! :)

Absolutely! I'm actually tempted to buy another copy of the set (without minifigs) so that I can have a couple of carriages on their way to Hogwarts. But for the casual, less obsessed fan, I can totally see why it's not a popular set.  Even when the next FB film comes out (which presumably contains a scene with "Grindelwald's Escape") I suspect it will still not sell. 

15 hours ago, Ferder said:

Why would it go under the great hall? I get that it's supposed to be subterranean, but it's not accurate to the films or books for it to go there. It could just as well go under any part of the castle. It went under the Great Hall in the original 2001-2002 line but that changed the shape of the chamber to a hallway, having the two chamber walls run next to each other instead of parallel, across from each other. 

Yes, all of that is true. They can just put the Chamber set next to the Great Hall, and no-one will really have a problem with that.  This is why I suspect the Chamber will be one of the Winter sets.  My only real doubt is that the Basilisk was contained with the Great Hall set (which didn't really make any sense). 

 

14 hours ago, Nina said:

Probably not so many sets? But the ideas sound quite likely.

I think we're getting 5 sets. I guess 2 will be based on the new FB film, leaving 3 HP sets.  However, the Diagon Alley mini-set that was spotted in Slovenia may not count towards that total - it's microscale and might be a freebie.  So I'm hoping we get 3 other sets.  If I had to put money on it, I'd guess Hagrid's Hut (mid-size), Chamber of Secrets (large) and Duelling Club (small). I'd love the first two, and my 5 year old son would love all of them, especially the Duelling Club, so Lego would be hitting on all demographics and releasing at a variety of price points.  They can leave the Burrow to be released next year.

 

14 hours ago, Nina said:

I expect there will be another knight bus too, as lego seems to think that no one buys sets without vehicles... 

I'm sure they'll do another Knight Bus set.  The Hogwarts Express set creeped into Book 3 with Lupin, Sirius Black poster and Dementors, so maybe the next wave will include sets from Book 3? If so, then the Knight Bus is very likely.  Personally, I'd rather if Lego took it slow and kept the focus on Books 1-2 for the next wave, and then turned to Books 3-4 in the Summer.  If they focus on 2 books a year, that will keep the line fresh for at least a few years.

 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

People keep saying they expect a dueling club set for 2019. Am I the only one who finds that highly unlikely?

[topiku]

11 minutes ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

People keep saying they expect a dueling club set for 2019. Am I the only one who finds that highly unlikely?

It‘s very unlikely in my opinion. 

[Legoniche]

1 hour ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

People keep saying they expect a dueling club set for 2019. Am I the only one who finds that highly unlikely?

Yeah, the duelling club took place in the great hall, we got that, we have Harry and Draco that came with it, we got snape and Lockhart will be coming in a future set, what’s good by not doing this set is that it opens up an opportunity to get an exclusive Lockhart either in a future CMF series or whatever, in his duelling club costume, we have the chance of getting three variants of him:

chamber of secrets robes, diagon alley robes, duelling club costume

2 of those can come in sets, whilst the duelling club variant can be a good exclusive or whatever, by the looks of the prototype great hall set, it looks like there were plans to include the duelling club feature in that set anyway, but for whatever reason we didn’t get it 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

2 hours ago, Legoniche said:

Yeah, the duelling club took place in the great hall, we got that, we have Harry and Draco that came with it, we got snape and Lockhart will be coming in a future set, what’s good by not doing this set is that it opens up an opportunity to get an exclusive Lockhart either in a future CMF series or whatever, in his duelling club costume, we have the chance of getting three variants of him:

chamber of secrets robes, diagon alley robes, duelling club costume

2 of those can come in sets, whilst the duelling club variant can be a good exclusive or whatever, by the looks of the prototype great hall set, it looks like there were plans to include the duelling club feature in that set anyway, but for whatever reason we didn’t get it 

Exactly. It’s like the guy that kept insisting there will be a Gryffindor Common Room set. They touched on it in the Whomping Willow set and most likely we won’t see another version of it. The same goes for the dueling club, they touched on it in the Great Hall set so odds are we won’t see anything more of it

[AJB]

12 hours ago, Balrogofmorgoth said:

The same goes for the dueling club, they touched on it in the Great Hall set so odds are we won’t see anything more of it

I think we'll get a Duelling Club set for three reasons:

1) Looking through Book 2, it's one of the most memorable and fun scenes.

2) Lego like to produce fun, smaller sets for kids, with action scenes and play features. It's hard to think of another scene in Book 2 which could be adapted for this purpose.

3) The Duelling Club took place in the Great Hall, and the prototype Great Hall set had a feature with Harry v Draco - but that was taken out. I think Lego took it out so that the Great Hall could be left for display, such as eating a feast.  The Duelling Club set could re-use this feature as a standalone set.

[Roebuck]

On 9/10/2018 at 7:52 PM, topiku said:

Anything new? ?

Talked to him today, and he did unfortunately not get any HP/FB sets to order in the winter wave  There is still hope since Lego apparently hold some sets back sometimes to keep them under wrap longer, but a summer wave seems like the most likely next wave (if we get one before that it is a bonus) 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

2 hours ago, AJB said:

I think we'll get a Duelling Club set for three reasons:

1) Looking through Book 2, it's one of the most memorable and fun scenes.

2) Lego like to produce fun, smaller sets for kids, with action scenes and play features. It's hard to think of another scene in Book 2 which could be adapted for this purpose.

3) The Duelling Club took place in the Great Hall, and the prototype Great Hall set had a feature with Harry v Draco - but that was taken out. I think Lego took it out so that the Great Hall could be left for display, such as eating a feast.  The Duelling Club set could re-use this feature as a standalone set.

I see your reasoning. I still think it’s unlikely though. Thought hey took the specific feature out, they still advertise it showing Harry and Draco facing off on top of the table in the Great Hall. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against them making a dueling club set, I think it would be a great opportunity for some exclusive figures (dueling club Lockhart, Justin Finch Fletchley), but I just don’t think Lego will go for it

[Legoniche]

I mean I can picture what the duelling club set would look like in my head (it looks good btw) I just feel there are bigger priorities and better set options at the the present, assuming the theme lasts 3 years+ I can see it coming a bit later down the road when the great hall is retiring Andy when most of the important sets are done and Lego a are making sets on specific scenes rather than just getting the locations and vehicles done

Edited September 14, 2018 by Legoniche