5004419 Classic Knights Set

[soccerkid6]

I was planning on going to my nearest LEGO store in early June, but with this news I'll wait till the beginning of July

[Wodanis]

I'm quite excited to acquire this mini-figure! They could do a Black-Tron phase one classic, that would be great in my book. I wouldn't want it to be redesigned unless they did a whole new theme for them. This crusader could be a lost soul from a forgotten time come back to warn us of ominous tidings.

[Itaria No Shintaku]

I will get this for sure.

[AmperZand]

This crusader could be a lost soul from a forgotten time come back to warn us of ominous tidings.

Whether a time traveller or someone frozen since the late 1970s (similar to Captain America's cryogenic sleep), I think this poor crusader would be driven insane at the sight of his lovely Castle world having been NEXOed!

I'm not opposed to lines evolving (I became an AFOL thanks to the fantasy aspects of Castle introduced in the early 1990s), but injecting science fiction into a theme and considering it the successor to Castle is a step too far. I hope this Crusader set is hugely popular, sending a loud message to TLG that there is still demand for a historical/fantasy line as opposed to the sci-fi'ed lines we have now.

[Lyichir]

Whether a time traveller or someone frozen since the late 1970s (similar to Captain America's cryogenic sleep), I think this poor crusader would be driven insane at the sight of his lovely Castle world having been NEXOed!

I'm not opposed to lines evolving (I became an AFOL thanks to the fantasy aspects of Castle introduced in the early 1990s), but injecting science fiction into a theme and considering it the successor to Castle is a step too far. I hope this Crusader set is hugely popular, sending a loud message to TLG that there is still demand for a historical/fantasy line as opposed to the sci-fi'ed lines we have now.

It's a limited edition promotional set that's offered free-with-purchase—Lego expects to sell through their entire stock one way or another. So if you think there's any way that demand for this set could be used by Lego to gauge demand for traditional Castle, you're sadly mistaken. Not to mention the fact that this set's appeal and Nexo Knights' appeal are not mutually exclusive—I expect a lot of families and even some AFOLs will even qualify for this set using Nexo Knights purchases. So even if the set sells out within the first week and Lego customer service gets flooded with calls and emails requesting the set, it still wouldn't be a reliable indicator that there's anything wrong with Lego's current strategy for Castle.

[AmperZand]

It's a limited edition promotional set that's offered free-with-purchase—Lego expects to sell through their entire stock one way or another. So if you think there's any way that demand for this set could be used by Lego to gauge demand for traditional Castle, you're sadly mistaken.

No, I'm not. TLG have and will have enough data of the right kind to model the popularity of this set without requiring direct sales figures. For example, they will know how quickly they sell out compared to similar promotions, how much people are spending to qualify (just over the $50 threshold or way above the threshold, and how that compares with similar promos), the mix of sets being bought that qualify (one big set, lots of small sets or a combination of large and small), and the spending profiles of buyers (regular vs occasional). They will also be able to determine whether this set appeals to the same customers as NK or different ones.

If for example, NK sales are beneath target but the analysis shows that the crusader set is very popular especially among NK buyers, that would indicate to TLG that they had erred in their Castle strategy. They would need to do considerably more market research of course, but it would at least get them thinking seriously about reviving Classic Castle, Fantasy Era or the like.

[Bricky Dee Williams]

Whether a time traveller or someone frozen since the late 1970s (similar to Captain America's cryogenic sleep), I think this poor crusader would be driven insane at the sight of his lovely Castle world having been NEXOed!

And attacked by trolls. And the undead. And numerous flocks of every type of knight imaginable. (Save Monty Python's Black Knight chap)

I do like this set, I passed on the Pirate one, but I did get the 2014 Spaceman minifigure. I think I'll be getting this one.

[TheLegoDr]

As far as I'm concerned, the Pirate one having nothing classic about it was a waste of a set. The spaceman being ALL classic, would be a good one to get. THIS, on the other hand, is THE set. I'd love multiples, but I'll just buy used versions of the original since they will be cheaper.

[1974]

This looks incredible! And much more authentically retro than last year's Pirates set. Sure, it looks like some newer parts and techniques might be used for the ballista, but it still looks like it would fit in fairly well with other sets of that fig's era.

Such a tiny set is incredible to you? You could really blow your mind if you looked at Classic Castle sets then What would indeed have been incredible would be if TLG brought back the old grey (I know, not gonna happen EVER)

For those of us that have hundreds of CC figs/sets, this offering from TLG will do zip. But if you're looking for a bunch of guards to defend your 10223, it's great

But CC it's definitely NOT!

Also, I hope the shield has the same printing as the old ones (no new yellow crap, please) so they will actually fit with the old ones. The torso wont, as it's 'new red' (<-- different from what was used in CC back then)

Hmm, TLG is actually making a mess here. People trying to build/collect/sell proper CC now has to sort out these parts if they want to make/have/sell actual CC sets with the correct era parts (and YES that does matter a lot to many of us. I'd be pissed to buy a 6080 full of those torsos)

Cheers,

Ole

(Edit, darn spelling errors + more words)

Edited May 26, 2016 by 1974

[Lyichir]

Such a tiny set is incredible to you? You could really blow your mind if you looked at Classic Castle sets then What would indeed have been incredible would be if TLG brought back the old grey (I know, not gonna happen EVER)

For those of us that have hundreds of CC figs/sets, this offering from TLG will do zip. But if you're looking for a bunch of guards to defend your 10223, it's great

But CC it's definitely NOT!

Also, I hope the shield has the same printing as the old ones (no new yellow crap, please) so they will actually fit with the old ones. The torso wont, as it's 'new red' (<-- different from what was used in CC back then)

Hmm, TLG is actually making a mess here. People trying to build/collect/sell proper CC now has to sort out these parts if they want to make/have/sell actual CC sets with the correct era parts (and YES that does matter a lot to many of us. I'd be pissed to buy a 6080 full of those torsos)

Cheers,

Ole

(Edit, darn spelling errors + more words)

"Incredible" in the context of a promotional giveaway. In my eyes, it accomplishes what it sets out to do (that is, to recreate the look and feel of some of those classic castle builds using modern parts), much better than last year's Pirates version did (which fit in fine with the other Pirates sets that year but had hardly anything in common visually with the yellow beaches and hinged palm trees of my childhood).

I am no newbie to classic castle and grew up on factions like Wolfpack, Royal Knights, Dragon Masters, and Fright Knights, but I'd never give up the fantastic designs of modern sets to go back to those days. And I'd certainly never want to give up the bluish greys for the old greys, which always looked dingy and ugly compared to the richness and brightness of other Lego colors.

[TheLegoDr]

I have every classic castle set starting in late 80s-mid 90s, but I guess I am unaware of new yellow or new red. Obviously I know the grays won't match, but other than some issues with printing white on red, why would the red be different? i must have missed something with my new sets.

Either way, I'll gladly take this set. I don't think LEGO are trying to give people more updates for their past sets, but more so give a nod to the nostalgia of that era. Clearly, the colors may be updated or details may be added in. The main thing that could save this from people having to "sort" it from the rest of their collection is if they included some back printing, even if it is subtle.

Granted, I do agree, I would be very upset if I received a classic set and had the new soldiers sprinkled in (granted, I highly doubt that would happen anyway since it isn't a cheap promotion to acquire a lot of them).

[Artanis I]

^ I agree with most of that.

I guess I am unaware of new yellow or new red.

Not sure of the brand new parts coming out now, but I have some yellow parts from a few years ago that don't quite match the older parts I have in yellow, not because of "yellowing", but they seem more translucent. It may have been more of a temporary "quality control" issue rather than a complete change? Otherwise I'm equally as stumped. I have all castles bar the yellow and 2006, with many minifigs of each faction & era and have not noticed a difference besides aged discolouration. Other than the greys & browns.

Edited May 29, 2016 by Artanis I

[durazno33]

The problem with getting Castle minifigures through the CMF series is that we only get 1 or 2 a series, and with more and more licensed series that means we only get maybe 3-5 a year. That's too slow to be an adequate source.

I agree. They tend to be pretty expensive and you have to spend all of the time looking for the right one.

[CM4Sci]

Official images -

[Robert8]

Clay!

lol

[Kalais]

Awesome. Must.Have.This.Set!

[Exetrius]

Nice figure, good to see it's truely classic. Do we know the qualifying orders to get this?

[HawkLord]

Nice figure, good to see it's truely classic. Do we know the qualifying orders to get this?

I thought it was any order of $50 or more. Any theme.

I'll echo what others have said - awesome little set and I really like this exclusive sub-line that Lego is making yearly.

[Robert8]

I wonder why they didn't include Fantasy Era and Castle 2013 in the leaflet

[Venkefedo]

Basically, while I appreciate the homage and historical value, I want to see an update to the theme.

I agree in wanting to see an update to the theme. That little barely-there tease of an updated Black Falcon knight in the Kingdoms Joust set wasn't quite enough! After the recent Castle and the Nexo Knights, it'd be great to have a Kingdoms-style update on the Crusaders & Falcons. Same basic color schemes, but updated detailed prints, updated shields, the fancier emblems, etc (preferably with a set akin to the Mill Village Raid or MMV with lots of new peasants, merchants, nobles even, that could be used for either side!)

(then again, I'm still wishing for an expansion of Kingdoms, too, since we never really got the plural part of that name... one kingdom, and however you'd classify the kingless Green Dragons' territory)

This is a nice little set tho! 6080 King's Castle was one of my earliest Lego sets, and still one of my faves (just gotta clean the pieces off after years in imperfect storage!)

Edited June 21, 2016 by Venkefedo

[x105Black]

Official images -

I agree in wanting to see an update to the theme. That little barely-there tease of an updated Black Falcon knight in the Kingdoms Joust set wasn't quite enough! After the recent Castle and the Nexo Knights, it'd be great to have a Kingdoms-style update on the Crusaders & Falcons. Same basic color schemes, but updated detailed prints, updated shields, the fancier emblems, etc (preferably with a set akin to the Mill Village Raid or MMV with lots of new peasants, merchants, nobles even, that could be used for either side!)

I wholeheartedly agree!

[Robert8]

LMAO

But I can't tell which one is not like the others

[Venkefedo]

LMAO

But I can't tell which one is not like the others

I think it's the box art, which the spear is pointing to... depicting a 2013 Castle character while that series is absent on the "Castle thru the years" insert next to the box, nor is it represented by the figure in the box! Maybe?

If not that, then the Nexo Knight on the insert, since he's a sci-fi warrior in fancy hi-tech armor unlike all the rest

[Artanis I]

The helmet should be dark grey! Still, pretty good.

[x105Black]

the Nexo Knight on the insert, since he's a sci-fi warrior in fancy hi-tech armor unlike all the rest

Ding ding ding ding!