HD's WIPyard, scrapyard

[HorcikDesigns]

Hi all.

I am starting this thread in order to have all never finished MOCs, or of lower quality creations that are not that what they were planned to be, cars without bodies, trucks without arms, weird things without more weird things, etc., and my other Technic-themed activity in one topic.

In the initial post I'll add a link to my Flickr Photostream - there are all my creations and Lego themed photos - finished or unfinished MOCs, technic, space, and some drawings of non-lego cars _{(for more drawings from me plase visit this link (dA))}

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The first image section is my second attempt (my firs one: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk5RN6rp) in creating 3axle truck with red panels. Direct inspiration to build this one is the 42043 MB Arocs. This truck is the similar scale as the TLG's attempt, it uses nearly the same rear axle, very similar steering rod, and the same cabin-tilting geometry. What's more, it's engine is also I6.

On the other hand, my 3RedAxles 2 is 6×6 (unfortunatelly, not enough reliable), and all functions are controlled manualy from separate knobwheels - _{wait, this is more con than pro}... Next that could have been better is the crane arm - it is horrible here, but it works - and I wanted just to try to build something that could be folded like the real thing - to test the geometry.

Well, the only thing I am satisfied with, are the headlights, and look of the cabin (that is very inspired by 8258 Cranetruck.

More photos: https://flic.kr/s/aHskmtVNb2

Hope you like it ;)

Edited October 15, 2015 by Gzzig

[HorcikDesigns]

Another MOC that is not worth separate topic is my Second Tractor (the first one: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk7oikno the zero-th:

(just a joke)).

More photos: https://flic.kr/s/aHskmnQKBS

Simple Tractor by Horcik Designs, on Flickr

Simple Tractor by Horcik Designs, on Flickr

Simple Tractor by Horcik Designs, on Flickr

Simple Tractor by Horcik Designs, on Flickr

I know it could have beed done better, but it was not my target - I just wanted to test some ideas.

[Kristof]

I wouldn't call any of these two ugly or low quality :D Like both and especially that truck cabin is great!

[HorcikDesigns]

... ugly or low quality :D

Thank you! I am glad you like them. I like the truck cabin too, to be honest :D (especially the headlights, I'm planning to re-use them on another truck :D) - but I know, the the rest of the truck (chassis under the arm, and the central part) could have been packed with more functions, and could have been done more cleaner. And the main reason for posting the truck in this topic is that it is not finished - the sketchy arm is just horrible :D

And the tractor - Originally I wanted to build some Buggy-ish vehicle :D (the front axle). And the problem with function is here again - not enough. I know that it could have been done much, much better, when I gave it more time. :)

Thank you again. :)

[Rishab N]

I agree that both of these MOCs look nice. I like the red truck

[750ACE]

These are nice. I'm not sure why you say not worthy. Don't let others egos get in the way.

[Imanol BB]

Hey Gzzig, being honest, i think these models that you say that are scrap or low quality are actually very nice, i saw some pics of your gallery and the truck seems very nice, even the first version of it (also i thought that there was an sticker saying "wip forever" https://www.flickr.com/photos/112259733@N07/15895088231/in/album-72157649089686517/ ) and the tractor seems to be very functional and strong, i think you really make a good work with your creations and i would like to see more of them.

[HorcikDesigns]

Thank you very much. I konw, that these MOCs are not bad or really ugly, but I know that they could have been done much better. I am glad you like them, anyway.

[Kman860]

Another MOC that is not worth separate topic is my Second Tractor (the first one: https://flic.kr/s/aHsk7oikno the zero-th:

(just a joke)).

More photos: https://flic.kr/s/aHskmnQKBS

I know it could have beed done better, but it was not my target - I just wanted to test some ideas.

Tractor's are always a good idea testing platform, as are trucks

[nerdsforprez]

I sometimes get concerned that people build for attention rather than for fun. They refer to whatever they are building as their "work".... Just my humble opinion.... But your"work" is what you do for pay. Profession. And although for some these can overlap, for most of us what we build is for play. Lets not forget that building for play is just as important if not more so than building for recognition.

[Lipko]

I sometimes get concerned that people build for attention rather than for fun. They refer to whatever they are building as their "work".... Just my humble opinion.... But your"work" is what you do for pay. Profession. And although for some these can overlap, for most of us what we build is for play. Lets not forget that building for play is just as important if not more so than building for recognition.

Maybe it's just me, but it is a lot of work. Building for "play" (I guess you mean fun or the experience of "flow" here) is maybe 5% of my building time, the rest goes for struggling with implementation. But that work has to be done to get that 5% of feeling high. Maybe it there wasn't internet and I couldn't see any of others' work, I would be less strict with myself.

Anyway, nice collection, I wish I had such a collection, but I had maybe only two failed MOCs of real bricks. Not because I rarely fail, but because I rarely build something...

Edited October 16, 2015 by Lipko

[SevenStuds]

Definitely not a scrapyard. I like this RIP-WIP idea. Unfinished models are great to look at because they offer that feeling of something raw, something that others can complete in their minds. I suppose we all get tired with projects that take long. Eventually new projects start to look more fun than the work being done to get the existing ones completed.

[nerdsforprez]

Maybe it's just me, but it is a lot of work. Building for "play" (I guess you mean fun or the experience of "flow" here) is maybe 5% of my building time, the rest goes for struggling with implementation. But that work has to be done to get that 5% of feeling high. Maybe it there wasn't internet and I couldn't see any of others' work, I would be less strict with myself.

Agreed. Very much so. But "work" in this reference does not refer to the toil and labor, "man shall live by the sweat of his brow" type of stuff. "Work" - as referenced by the OP, is one's accomplishments in building Lego, i.e. as a reflection of the person. So, that was what I was referring to. And yes, many only experience the "flow" (careful with this reference, most won't know what the heck we are talking about) of building when they share it with others. But this was what I was referring to; I think with the internet and sharing and all, there are many who build for the recognition piece, exclusively. Or they build what may not be "fun" for them but what will get them recognition. I think this is unfortunate. But.... my opinion.... I get it. To each his/her own. I am just recommending caution to new builders.... I think we all have been caught ourselves perhaps building for the wrong reasons at some point. When we barter our enjoyment for popularity I think everyone suffers. The builder AND the viewer. I think Sariel is a great example. One of the reasons why I think his stuff is so popular is because, IMO, he builds like he doesn't give a crap, and people love it. I mean a hamster in nearly everything he builds? An Imperial Starship Theo Jansen-type walker hybrid? WTF? But it works for him because (and I don't know the guy personally at all) in some way shape or form I think it is a reflection of his genuineness. People love his stuff for it (myself included). Many other great builders that I find myself drawn to I notice the fun that they have in their building reflected in their builds. Recognition comes as a byproduct of doing something you love, it should not not be an end in and of itself. And I don't state this as solely an opinion (although, I get it, it is), I truly think that their is a lot of logic behind the reasoning; which is, building in in this fashion is not just good for the builder, ultimately it is also good, and in the best interest for the VIEWER. All this has nothing to do with the fact that building will be hard, that is a given. Right now I am taking a break from building Lego and building my daughter a tree house, LOTS of hard work, but i'll tell you, I am having a blast doing it.

[Jay Psi]

Right now I am taking a break from building Lego and building my daughter a tree house, LOTS of hard work, but i'll tell you, I am having a blast doing it.

I think you might be missing a trick here

Edited October 17, 2015 by Jay Psi

[Kman860]

I think you might be missing a trick here

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[nerdsforprez]

Nice..... now, the next question would be, can you build a house out of Lego that will fit (and stay) in a tree

[Kman860]

Nice..... now, the next question would be, can you build a house out of Lego that will fit (and stay) in a tree

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[HorcikDesigns]

Thank you all.

@Nerdsforprez: i know, that I am not so active commenter here, and I usually only wait for other's people comments in my MOC topics. That's not good and friendly, I know. I also know very well, that the hunt for more reactions, so usual in today's internet pseudosociety (_{with twisted priorities, where anyone can feel like top-star with five "likes" - ugh, I really do not like this combination of letters - on their "profile photo"... with hysteric need for hearthbreaking stories...etc, that's OT}.), can cause loss of some joys of building - and so I am not building only for anyone's reaction nor recognition. I am building for fun, in order to learn somethig new, and so I do not want to get stuck in one state of skills-progress.

That's the reason why I joined this forum - to try to discuss (_{it is hard with my slightly egoistic activity, but I do not complain. That's my fault, and I would do the same.}) my building experience with people with the same interest all around the world. Getting positive feedback make me feel a bit more confident, getting negative fb. makes me to improve something, none feedback - then I realize that "the object" (out of synomymes for MOC :D ) was not worth any attention, or I previously said something wrong.

And the reason for starting this topic? I have many (much more that really finished) MOC-WIPs that are interesting only in some specific way (cab of the truck, the first-sight look of the tractor), but they're technically not good, or I know that they could have been done much, much better. Nonetheless, I would like to show it, because some part of it is important for me.

And, good luck with your tree house! :)

[nerdsforprez]

Thanks man..... and by no means was I trying to be disparaging or even suggest that my post applied to you. I was just making a simple observation. i know, what I commented on, applies to many. Not saying that you are included, just saying many are.

To each his/her own. This is a hobby, and I just want everyone to have fun. I by no means am the greatest builder..... nor do I strive to me. I just do it for the fun. And hey, to those out there that strive to be the best, if they truly love doing that... then power to them. Heaven knows that we all enjoy their builds. As long as they are truly enjoying building..... then that is great.

GL with future stuff! And for what it is worth, I agree with others.... alot of what you think is not post-worthy is pretty good stuff!

[HorcikDesigns]

Thanks man..... and by no means was I trying to be disparaging or even suggest that my post applied to you. I was just making a simple observation. i know, what I commented on, applies to many. Not saying that you are included, just saying many are.

To each his/her own. This is a hobby, and I just want everyone to have fun. I by no means am the greatest builder..... nor do I strive to me. I just do it for the fun. And hey, to those out there that strive to be the best, if they truly love doing that... then power to them. Heaven knows that we all enjoy their builds. As long as they are truly enjoying building..... then that is great.

GL with future stuff! And for what it is worth, I agree with others.... alot of what you think is not post-worthy is pretty good stuff!

I know, that your observation (and I would like to say great Thank you for it - it opened my eyes a little bit more), can apply for many (not only builders).

:)

Thank you. I'll try to keep it up. :)

One more notice - The photo of MOC makes really lot. Bad photo makes great creations look awful, good photo, or photo focused on the good parts, can cause imperfections to be hidden :D (e.g. - can you (all) see the middle section of the truck with all the gears, hoose-mess, not-used pin-ends, etc.? :D And did somebody noticed that the front axle of the tractor pivots around parallel (three pinholes are between them) steering axles? - that's the reason why I call them not worth to be in separate topic. )

Edited October 21, 2015 by Gzzig

[Sariel]

I think Sariel is a great example. One of the reasons why I think his stuff is so popular is because, IMO, he builds like he doesn't give a crap, and people love it. I mean a hamster in nearly everything he builds? An Imperial Starship Theo Jansen-type walker hybrid? WTF? But it works for him because (and I don't know the guy personally at all) in some way shape or form I think it is a reflection of his genuineness. People love his stuff for it (myself included). Many other great builders that I find myself drawn to I notice the fun that they have in their building reflected in their builds. Recognition comes as a byproduct of doing something you love, it should not not be an end in and of itself.

Oh, thank you, that's very kind and encouraging for me. I guess I'm always trying to balance having fun and making some progress as a builder. On one hand thanks to the very positive feedback I'm getting I feel I don't need to prove myself, to show off, I can build in a pretty relaxed way. On the other hand, I'm trying to always look for new solutions, to set the bar higher, just to keep things interesting for me, and I'm also occasionally kicking myself in the proverbial butt :) for taking too long to finish some projects people are waiting for or for building too many small, simple things in a row. I don't know what's the goal for other people, I don't judge, I was building long before I started sharing my stuff online and that's all it's about for me: building. Finding people who share my quirky sense of humor is an added bonus, and a very nice one: it's rare to find people who, when shown a mechanism that imitates hamster's moving nose and whiskers, react like "you're nuts, carry on being nuts" :) But at the end of the day it's still just a bonus.

Over the years I have seen a number of very talented builders burn out and quit this hobby completely. I may be wrong, but I would largely attribute it to being overly ambitious and forgetting about having fun. Some people just put so much steam into a single project that whatever feedback they get fails to meet their expectations. They build to prove something, not to enjoy building. I don't focus on singular projects: some of them will always fail, some of them will succeed. It's only natural.

One thing I never quite understood is people who blow enormous budgets on projects that would be equally functional or interesting at one tenth of the size. It's easy to impress with something that is like X meters tall or includes Y thousands of pieces, I get it. I just don't really see fun in it, plus I suppose sometimes money is mistaken for skill. But then it's not my place to tell others what to do with their money. If buying a truckload of pieces is your definition of fun, then by all means, go and have fun.

[Lipko]

Over the years I have seen a number of very talented builders burn out and quit this hobby completely. I may be wrong, but I would largely attribute it to being overly ambitious and forgetting about having fun. Some people just put so much steam into a single project that whatever feedback they get fails to meet their expectations. They build to prove something, not to enjoy building. I don't focus on singular projects: some of them will always fail, some of them will succeed. It's only natural.

I'm one of the overly ambitious and I do put too much steam into a single project, but the reason is the lack of time and space for me. I just don't have the energy to build every evening, can't "arrange" (or dunno) to have a whole weekend for building, and also I don't have to space for multiple projects (and of course the parts this would need). So I don't dare to waste my time on quick, medicore projects (though most of my project did end up being medicore).

I feel that I'm on the way of burning out. My best idea to effectively continue this hobby is to apply for a Technic designer position. Actually, I will do that, but my chances are very thin.

Edited October 27, 2015 by Lipko

[HorcikDesigns]

Well,

right after disassembling my Trophy truck's chassis ( http://www.eurobrick...opic=117089&hl= ) I still played with the body.

After fealizing that I can't bild a plane or boat with that cabin, I decieded to build simple car chassis with two L motors (geared up) (placed in surprisingly small space), servo for steering and slightly "advanced" (that means only negative caster angle) steering geometry, and put modified body on it.

The whole build is not perfect, but I like the chassis - that's the reason for posting it here. Video does not exist.

test CAR by Horcik Designs, on Flickr

Edited December 21, 2015 by Gzzig

[andythenorth]

One thing I never quite understood is people who blow enormous budgets on projects that would be equally functional or interesting at one tenth of the size.

Yair, that stops being fun quickly. The build gets overwhelming, the cost in £$€ (and time) gets ridiculous, and the results aren't that fun (big Technic models don't perform that well, everything is over-stressed).

This would have been nicer at 1/4 the scale

It's much more fun building throwaway technic stuff with my kids, compared to the over-engineered recreations of real-life trucks I build for myself.

@Gzzig nice creations, all of them

Edited December 22, 2015 by andythenorth

[HorcikDesigns]

Another technical scrap in nice box.

Originally a mid-scale trial truck chassis equipped with L motor and servo, evolved after many unsuccesful tests into manually steered truck with relicts of motorisation - for example, the axles - unnecessarily complicated front axle, and gears in the rear.

Live axles suspension with rather low travel included.

The another fun feature is 8454 inspired arm and openable doors and boxes on sides.

More photos here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskqAMNtx