Hinckley Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 .They keep horses from SEEING THE REALITY AROUND THEM. Keep horses from seeing you steal their poop to defend Paul with. And I already explained how the very best thing the scum have done is let you live, so that you can continue misleading the town with your constant focus and attacks on me. Is it at all possible I was the protection target? And that's why the Scum kill failed. And I also already addressed the scum on both bandwagon thing - with both the fact that Zipzop is potential scum and on the wagon in question, and the other day by presenting FACTUAL DATA from multiple games here that the scum DO always split their vote. It's the closest thing we've got to actual data to find scum. I haven't seen you do any analysis that in-depth about any of your supposed scum-tells... :wink: "Hey guys, let's all jump on the same bandwagon because Scum always spread their votes out." Ah, I'm guessing THIS is the questions you torqued that I haven't answered. Well, maybe if you'd quit badgering me and screaming over and over that I'm scum, I'd have time to look at Paul more critically rather than defending myself. The only defense I've done of Paul is when it's been directly related to me and come up in that context. But frankly, YES, I'm ok with him pushing Minga in the day thread for results. It's initial posts sure seemed to say that it knew who scum were and we both were impatiently waiting for some answers. We've wasted so much time this game debating codes and players on the ledge and other crap that having some actual night results sounded like a massive relief, so then when Minga kept dancing rather than saying (like it FINALLY did) that it was still waiting for the investigator's result, it felt very off. Why have you been defending Paul if you haven't looked at him. You keep saying you have a slight Town read on him. How did you come to that if you haven't been paying attention to him. You new Mafia kids! Get off my lawn! Don't make me call the Space Police! I don't like ya! Not cause you're Scum, it's your methods! I want to lynch your methods and the way you see things. *shakes fist* Ow, my back! So, you're OK with him pushing which is part of the fishing. Are you OK with the fact that Paul says Minga told him that I'm the Serial Killer and Minga has said that is a lie? Does that even phase you? Or is that just how the New Mafia Kids do things? They lie. Is that what you mean by handle information differently. Making shit up is a different way to handle information. :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke:
Dragonfire Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Also, what would I have to gain by lying? You could get a Townie (Paul) lynched... I have a question. Would the correct response to this be to PM people speculating about the identity of the investigator and then press you publicly to reveal an investigation result? Is that the Townie thing to do, Minga? Should everyone have tried pushing you into revealing the NA results to prove their towniness? Is fishing a town tell? Thanks in advance. Not sure what you mean by this? I specifically wanted to know (and still do, since the block has gotten quiet after giving us one scum name... that's fine for today, but if the investigator doesn't turn up another scum tomorrow, we will NEED to know who was blocked!) who was blocked since they are very very very likely to be scum. Period. Isn't that the definition of being townie? But how do you know that someone was blocked? How do you know that it wasn't the protector who stopped the kill? But frankly, YES, I'm ok with him pushing Minga in the day thread for results. It's initial posts sure seemed to say that it knew who scum were and we both were impatiently waiting for some answers. We've wasted so much time this game debating codes and players on the ledge and other crap that having some actual night results sounded like a massive relief, so then when Minga kept dancing rather than saying (like it FINALLY did) that it was still waiting for the investigator's result, it felt very off. The investigator was being stubborn about the results and decided not to tell Minga at the start of the day. Minga was also impatiently waiting for results. Yes, his targeting himself last night was a dumb move. So what? It's not like that's the lie a scum would tell, because he had to assume someone WOULD target him in some fashion last night, so if he was lying about his role, that wouldn't be a smart lie to make. So he either did a dumb PR action as a townie, or he made a dumb lie as a scum. I think the former makes more sense. Scum have someone on their side helping them make GOOD plans. Minga concurs. That and his dumb reasons for thinking Seamus was scum based off nobody targeting him - those were just dumb, whether Town or scum. Paul's scumminess stems from other reasons entirely. Why would he lie openly and publicly about fake results and conversations just so people view Seamus as the serial killer? What is that even supposed to accomplish today? We've already been given a scum to lynch today, does he expect us to all unvote Dodd to vote for Seamus since "he's the serial killer?" I'm not trying to defend Seamus here. For all I know, he could be the serial killer or scum. I just find it incredibly scummy and suspicious that Paul is acting this way. If he looks like scum, acts like scum, and sounds like scum, chances are he's probably scum. To be honest, this makes Paul look townier.
MagPiesRUs Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 As for my suspicions, I don't know. If I was wrong about Rip maybe I'm wrong about everyone else? That means I need to reevaluate the situation. In the morning...what? It is morning? Whatever. Why would being wrong about Rip nullify all of your other suspicions? That's a bit of a cop-out. Are you no longer suspicious of Minga then? It seems odd that, after going after Minga so strongly yesterday, Rip turning up as town would make you suspect her less. After all, she recommended yesterday that we either lynch Rip (confirmed town) or you (who you're supposed to be arguing is a townie too). Your fixation on me is extremely worrying. I'm surprised that you didn't vote for me instead of Dodd, since you seem so lazer focused on the idea that I'm scum. Even when I'm revealed as town, whether it be by my death or in the conclusion, I have a feeling that you're still going to insist I'm scum. Are you accusing Hannah of being scum here, or a mistaken townie? At first you seem to be finding her behaviour worrying, but by the end it looks like you're implying she just has tunnel vision. Even when I'm revealed as town. Wait, you'll be 'revealed as town', you say? Oh, in that case I retract my earlier comments. I was selfish and I watched myself. My logic was that I could confirm a claim if someone was to target me (i.e. the tracker, blocker, or cop). I was looking to find new 'friends' seeing that the town block is IMO not doing much so I thought the cop would target me or the blocker. Honestly I felt I would be a good SK kill target and fully expected to die last night. I initially thought of watching Bock because I felt he would be a good scum kill but I changed my mind at the last second. Wouldn't you have had a better chance of being let in to the town block by actually contributing to it instead of trying to search them out independently? I don't think you've explained why Bock would have been a good scum kill yet either. Didn't you initially vote for him yesterday?
Hinckley Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Liar. If Diamond hadn't turned up scum, Minga would have voted Paul just for this. I am interested to hear Paul's response to this. I wonder where he has been.
mostlytechnic Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Why have you been defending Paul if you haven't looked at him. You keep saying you have a slight Town read on him. How did you come to that if you haven't been paying attention to him. So, you're OK with him pushing which is part of the fishing. Are you OK with the fact that Paul says Minga told him that I'm the Serial Killer and Minga has said that is a lie? Does that even phase you? Or is that just how the New Mafia Kids do things? They lie. Is that what you mean by handle information differently. Making shit up is a different way to handle information. :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: :poke: I said very clearly the first time that my slight town read on him is BECAUSE you're alive and fixated on us both. The fact that you're alive should give everyone a town-read on both of us. And congrats on a successful rick-roll... my kids were in the room while I was reading your post so I clicked the link to show them the video. And got a surprise.... But how do you know that someone was blocked? How do you know that it wasn't the protector who stopped the kill? I don't, which is why I've never said the the blocked person IS scum, I've said over and over that they're very likely scum and it'd be a great place to start looking tomorrow. Oh, and Seamus... I know you've lied many times as town before. There ARE reasons to do it, when you're trying to trap someone or mislead scum. That doesn't mean Paul is town, but it DOES show that liar is not always scum. (and yeah, I know I still haven't given you an in-depth study of Paul. I will when I get a chance. )
Dragonfire Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I said very clearly the first time that my slight town read on him is BECAUSE you're alive and fixated on us both. The fact that you're alive should give everyone a town-read on both of us. How do you know the scum didn't try to kill Seamus last night?
Hinckley Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 How do you know the scum didn't try to kill Seamus last night?
mostlytechnic Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 How do you know the scum didn't try to kill Seamus last night? I don't. I'm playing the odds here. There's 11 of us still alive, so probably 6 or 7 non-scum, so the odds of the scum targeting Seamus is around 15%. AND OH YEAH, I KNOW I'M TOWN so therefore my logic that he's alive as a distracting to the town makes complete sense.
Hinckley Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I don't. I'm playing the odds here. There's 11 of us still alive, so probably 6 or 7 non-scum, so the odds of the scum targeting Seamus is around 15%. ooh! Ooh! Can you do the probability of a killer being blocked? I love statistics but in the old country, they believe math to be the Devil's work so I nary get to see any!
Dragonfire Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I don't. I'm playing the odds here. There's 11 of us still alive, so probably 6 or 7 non-scum, so the odds of the scum targeting Seamus is around 15%. AND OH YEAH, I KNOW I'M TOWN so therefore my logic that he's alive as a distracting to the town makes complete sense. To be honest, I think both of you are town here. Why don't you (4of2) quit defending yourself and start looking into other people. For instance, you've said you think Zipzop is scum based on the Day One voting. Why don't you do an ISO of him like you did with Rip yesterday and do something conclusive rather than pointlessly arguing with other townies?
Ranger of the Forest Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Your fixation on me is extremely worrying. I'm surprised that you didn't vote for me instead of Dodd, since you seem so lazer focused on the idea that I'm scum. Even when I'm revealed as town, whether it be by my death or in the conclusion, I have a feeling that you're still going to insist I'm scum. I don’t think you get why I’m more suspicious of you than ever now. Why weren’t you lynched yesterday instead of Rip? If you and he were both town, then why did the vote start drifting away from you and on to Rip? It wouldn’t matter to the scum which one of you got lynched if you were both town, so why not jump on the person who already has a couple votes on him? Would get the same result either way. Oh wait no, I’m completely wrong. This is all an elaborate attempt to set you up and make you look like scum, my mistake
Hinckley Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I don’t think you get why I’m more suspicious of you than ever now. Why weren’t you lynched yesterday instead of Rip? If you and he were both town, then why did the vote start drifting away from you and on to Rip? It wouldn’t matter to the scum which one of you got lynched if you were both town, so why not jump on the person who already has a couple votes on him? Would get the same result either way. Oh wait no, I’m completely wrong. This is all an elaborate attempt to set you up and make you look like scum, my mistake I don't know. He did say "extremely" wrong instead of just wrong so ... That's pretty convincing.
Hinckley Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Oh, and Seamus... I know you've lied many times as town before. There ARE reasons to do it, when you're trying to trap someone or mislead scum. That doesn't mean Paul is town, but it DOES show that liar is not always scum. (and yeah, I know I still haven't given you an in-depth study of Paul. I will when I get a chance. ) Paul says Minga told him I'm the Serial Killer. Minga says he's lying. ^Your post is written from the perspective that you know Paul is lying. Why is that? You haven't studied him in-depth but conclude somehow that he's the one of the two who is lying. I don't know why Paul hasn't posted these PMs from Minga. He's been online. He's been here. He was composing a post...
Dragonfire Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Here's the PM Minga sent Paul, after which he told me that he thought Seamus was the SK. For your information, due to certain happenings last night we're pretty sure Hinckley isn't scum....
Sir Stig Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Vote: Diamond Dodd (CallMePie) Send him to the disintegrator!
Ranger of the Forest Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 I don't know. He did say "extremely" wrong instead of just wrong so ... That's pretty convincing. Oh yes, you’re right, it is. My mistake
Dannylonglegs Posted September 19, 2015 Author Posted September 19, 2015 This unanimous vote makes my life easier. Final vote tally and day end in a few hours. Maybe around 9 or 10 EST. You can start sending in night actions if you feel like it.
Hinckley Posted September 19, 2015 Posted September 19, 2015 Vote: Diamond Dodd (CallMePie) Send him to the disintegrator! Yay, you're still here! I was afraid I had hurt your feelings by criticizing your posting style. Sorry.
Dannylonglegs Posted September 20, 2015 Author Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) The day is over. Final Vote Tally: Diamond Dodd (CallmePie): 10 votes (Mediumsnowman, Hinckley, Lind Whisperer, TinyPiesRUs, Dragonfire, Bob, Mostlytechnic, PirateDave84, Ranger of the Forest, Sir Stig ) Nonvoting: 1: CallmePie With 10 votes, Diamond Dodd (CallmePie) has been lynched. you have 24 hours to get your night actions in. Edited September 20, 2015 by Dannylonglegs
Dannylonglegs Posted September 20, 2015 Author Posted September 20, 2015 (edited) Lord Bob IV: "I bet 30 credits on the the Blacktron infiltration team." Governor Bob: "Where is your revolutionary zeal, Lord Bob?! I bet 60 credits on the Blacktron Infiltrators!" Lady Kianna: "If you're both betting on Black, then who's going to pay whom?" Lord Bob IV: "Didn't think about that." Governor Bob: "That sucks." Onyx Cerebus: "It's time. Ready the Renegade, and prepare the Invaders. I have received word that our comrades have lowered the shields. The Federation has oppressed our systems. They inflict unlawful taxes upon developing worlds. They hold doctrines of human superiority! They think that a galaxy can be controlled by some far-off bureaucracy on the core worlds, while caring not at all for those languishing on the fringes of society. They think of our revolution as interstellar piracy. They refer to us as rebel scum... But we will show them exactly what scum is capable of! When the Federation's suns finally set... All that will be left... Is Black." Meanwhile, the meeting room on LI-420 was abuzz with conversation. Seamus argued with practically everyone, taking umbrage particularly with "The younguns" Seamus: "Oi, you! Quit boggarting the spice!" Paul Harkonnenn: "It's prescription!" Meanwhile, Harriet Stomper bemoaned the loss of yet another confidante. "All of my side-space misters/mistresses are dead!" She lamented. "I guess I really am a reference to Harriet Slutter." Finally someone pointed a finger at Diamond Dodd. "I rummaged through their clothes, and saw many a cute outfit!" The person stated "But I also found a button with a Big lime green "B" On it! They works for Blacktron!" The table collectively gasped in shock! Diamond Dodd: "It was planted I swear! I don't work for Blacktron! I love the Federation!" They protested... But someone wasn't convinced... Nathan: "How could you..." He began, his chair toppling behind him, a look of anger, confusion, and heartbreak crossing his hansom face. "How could you have lied to me... all this time?!" Diamond: "No! I never lied to you! Not about the important stuff... Like my love for you! That's not a lie, Maurice! I'm not a Blacktron spy!" Nathan: "I trusted you! We were going to share our world together!" Diamond: "Oh please Maurice! You have to believe me!" Nathan: "But... they say there's an investigation result... that couldn't be falsified... Diamond... I don't know that I can trust you anymore." The words hit Diamond hard, and their eyes welled with an analogous fluid to tears. it also welled in the valleys between their 'hair-tentacle-things'. Diamond: "I'm not a Blacktron spy!" They stated, in a defeated, broken voice. "I considered I might lose my life, on this planet..." They continued, glancing back at Nathan, "But I never considered I'd lose you." They then turned back to Danny Longlegs, welcoming 'Interrogation' *sobbing* Danny: "Wow. That's rough, buddy. Now, let's get you interrogated, shall we?" ________ Later, Outside the facility, a mysterious, caped figure performed mysterious and cosmic activities.... When a shadow fell across his path... "That's no Space Dragon." The figure stated. Get your night actions in. Edited September 20, 2015 by Dannylonglegs
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