Blacktron Mafia: Day 3, Spaceship Soldiers

[mostlytechnic]

The code plan obviously failed, since one of the persons getting a part of the main code died (Vasquez). I got a response from Seamus about the code saying Bock and 4 of 2 also recieved the code, but he did not mention the others that were informed of their parts. So Seamus, Bock and 4 of 2 are involved with eachother one way or the other.

WTF? How do you figure we're "involved"? You GAVE ME THEIR TWO NAMES. Because you did that (and I had no idea you did not tell them names), I contacted each to just say hi and let them know I had indeed received a code piece. That's all.

How does me reporting to you that 4 of 2 contacted me indicate we're working together?

Exactly.

Okay. If anyone wishes to counterclaim investigator, protector, blocker, watcher, tracker, bulletproof townie or vigilante, please contact me or someone you trust.

Minga's not going to come out and say which roles have claimed because that would just be a road map for scum. So she's only stating the more common roles.

As others said, this is crap. Counterclaim BY DEFINITION means there has to already BE a claim. So no, don't expect any counterclaims out of the blue.

4 of 2

I think he's a very weird link in the chain of what happened with ZipZop's code. PMing me that he was in the chain seems like a "Hey, look at me, I'm trusted!" and then he suggested we try to piece together the code even though ZipZop was still alive. Then he hasn't really offered much in trying to piece the whole ZipZop mess together or answered to what he was thinking and what was said to him and how he knew about Bock and... He's just weird.

Sorry I didn't LIVE in mafia land over the weekend. I missed the entire discussion and just now read through it all. You provided the entire PM chain between us in public now, so people can read for themselves what I said.

Oh good, 4 of 2 is here. I'm going to predict his response.

Ahem... "Do you think I'd be stupid enough to broadcast our plan?"

Yes, it's called a slip–up...

4 of 2 and Paul, you're both here and you've been called out so feel free to respond whenever.

Yup, beat me to it. Maybe Paul IS scum and I gave him the idea? Dunno. I only know I'm not. Or maybe he's town and I gave him the idea to watch for scum targeting Clem with anything - their own watcher, a killer, rolecop, whatever. Or maybe just A WATCHER WATCHING CLEM WAS A GOOD IDEA SO TWO PEOPLE BOTH HAD IT.

Now, to clarify on the PM from Zipzop thing. I have no idea why he chose who he did. None. Frankly, I don't think any of us was a good choice and spreading it to SIX people is even less good (and I still don't get how that was supposed to work...). Here's the PMs I got from him:

First:

Hi, I have given Seamus and Bock part of a code in case I get killed tonight. Make sure my concerns are raised to the right persons.

I should also have mentioned this more clearly in the day thread:

Concerns that need to be raised:

-"Tracker" claimed after I called them out.

-"Tracker" asked to get in contact if anyone else contacted me.

-"X (subject of "tracker"s result)" claimed to have been contacted by the same person after I mentioned the claim in the day thread, even though there is no possible way X could know who contacted me.

-X was fishing for the name of the tracker, and gave me a hint that was wrong (and I confused some roles for a while, thinking X had the right person).

Then, I replied with "hope we both survive the night to discuss in public tomorrow" and he sent me (5 hours after the initial PM)

"Agreed. And I am glad I woke up in the middle of the night over here. Here is your part of the code: The highest number is the tracker."

I finally remember what pinged me from the vote analysis. I re-read Minga's summary:

6 votes for Clementine Lister (Lind Whisperer): (Chromeknight, Sir Stig, Xenophobic Monoxide, Lazychicken, Lady K, Dragonfire

That's the day 1 votes. Is there any chance that NO scum would have been on the Clem wagon, unless Clem IS scum? Nope. So out of Clem, Zipzop, and Minga, there is a scum.

All three have been subjects of massive discussion. I still lean town on Clem because fake-claiming backup seems too audacious. And Minga seems to be actually helpful in trying to assemble a town block AND keep people quiet. So:

Vote: Zipzop Beetlejuice (Sir Stig)

[Dannylonglegs]

Vote Update:

4 of 2 (mostlytechnic): 1 vote (TinyPiesRUs)

Bock Pathos (Bob): 1 vote (RangeroftheForest)

'Rip' Sewer (Captain Nemo): 1 vote (mediumsnowman)

Zipzop Beetlejuice (Sir Stig): 1 vote (mostlytechnic)

With 12 players, a majority of 7 is required to lynch. You have about 26 hours till the day ends. Make it count.

[Hinckley]

Make it count.

[Piratedave84]

I'm not implicated with 4 of 2 in any way.

I decided to watch Clem to see if someone would target him given he had outed himself as a (sort of) PR.

You're analysis is good but again, it's not representative of the truth.

I'm still unsure of where to place my vote but I have a few ideas namely:

zip zop and 4 of 2 over the code sharing thing which I still don't understand; can we sort out once and for all who actually got codes?

And

Seamus for reasons stated earlier

[mostlytechnic]

zip zop and 4 of 2 over the code sharing thing which I still don't understand; can we sort out once and for all who actually got codes?

Nutshell : I got a piece that said the highest number was the tracker, and that Seamus and Bock had the other pieces. That's all I knew until more names started flying in today's discussion.

[Piratedave84]

Nutshell : I got a piece that said the highest number was the tracker, and that Seamus and Bock had the other pieces. That's all I knew until more names started flying in today's discussion.

This is what bothers me here; of you 3(Bock, Zio Zop, Seamus) someone is bound to be lying and therefore scum. (Personally I'm leaning Zip Zop)

There's no way the code thing should be this complicated; Christ, we had a 75 000 000 part code going in another 'situation' and we managed to sort through it with relative ease.

[mostlytechnic]

I agree that zipzop's supposed code was overly complicated. Until today, I didn't, since I thought it was 3 people. I assumed from his initial PM that Seamus and Bock each got a list of some names with numbers, and then I had the "key" which would tell us which number was the tracker. I had no idea (and still don't understand) what all he was trying to do.

[Hinckley]

I got +2

Someone got 1 and 17

Another person was told order of confirmed in the C&D thread, higher number is the tracker.

The third and nineteenth people to confirm. Clem and Laura.

*yawn* *stretch*

"Clementine Lister, reporting for duty, sir!"

Laura Starbucks reporting for duty! Signature updates coming in shortly.

I admit to rambling off so many theories that I can find almost anything possible so I want everyone to be objective about my suspicion. However, I will say that Dave and 4 of 2 both seem to be rather:

[Hinckley]

4 of 2, have you ever played a game here with a Scum Watcher?

[Ranger of the Forest]

Again, I don't think it makes me anything. The result of a watcher and nobody targeting me is completely neutral. It just means I wasn't blocked, killed, protected, framed, tailored, etc.

What is it you think a Godfather does? You think his watcher result comes up...negative?

I’m not saying you’re town. The last part was my poor attempt at humor, I’m sorry you didn’t find it amusing Although to be fair, I can’t even remember what exactly I meant by it, apart from trying to be funny in a situation that frankly does not call for humor, so never mind

10 points to the Hogwarts House of your choice. And immunity to malicious pranks.

See? Someone gets my sense of humor Most likely Gryffindor, although Ravenclaw is also a distinct possibility

But anyways, I find it odd and rather disturbing that people aren’t commenting more, especially since there’s not all that much time left in the day. I know everyone has busy schedules and timezone differences, but if we keep this up we won’t have a lynch at all today Right now I feel like people pop in, state a few things, don’t take any sort of stance on the current topics, and then crawl back into the woodwork. There are potentially 4/5 scum out there who are currently doing a bang up job of staying in the background. We need to have a lynch today, and we need to do it right. Which is why I’m hoping more people will come and share their own thoughts, instead of blindly bandwagoning off of others. I’m afraid that at this point, we either won’t ave a lynch or we’ll have a very hasty one against someone who is likely town

This whole thing is just the face over and over again, basically.

[Hinckley]

I’m not saying you’re town. The last part was my poor attempt at humor, I’m sorry you didn’t find it amusing Although to be fair, I can’t even remember what exactly I meant by it, apart from trying to be funny in a situation that frankly does not call for humor, so never mind

See? Someone gets my sense of humor Most likely Gryffindor, although Ravenclaw is also a distinct possibility

It's a IRL problem of mine that I think I'm the only one who can joke. Sorry.

But anyways, I find it odd and rather disturbing that people aren’t commenting more, especially since there’s not all that much time left in the day. I know everyone has busy schedules and timezone differences, but if we keep this up we won’t have a lynch at all today Right now I feel like people pop in, state a few things, don’t take any sort of stance on the current topics, and then crawl back into the woodwork. There are potentially 4/5 scum out there who are currently doing a bang up job of staying in the background. We need to have a lynch today, and we need to do it right. Which is why I’m hoping more people will come and share their own thoughts, instead of blindly bandwagoning off of others. I’m afraid that at this point, we either won’t ave a lynch or we’ll have a very hasty one against someone who is likely town

This whole thing is just the face over and over again, basically.

A common Scum tell is only posting to defend one's self. So some of these people who are dropping in just to comment, it should be noted which ones only comment on the issues that pertain directly to them and skirt all other issues.

[MagPiesRUs]

My space computer isn't starting up so I typed a response on my phone which apparently didn't send. Even in the future nothing works. :rolleyeswithaguntohead: :daggerintheeye:

4 of 2, I still don't know why you posted up a detailed theory about prs and vanillas claiming to Clem and then negated it in the very same post. I'm also not sure why there HAS to be a scum among the Clem bandwagoners. I don't believe the scum would all vote for wen, but that doesn't necessarily mean some had to have voted for Clem. I find your vote on an inactive to be a scummier move than a Clem vote, personally.

Paul, you said today that the main reason you voted for Dr wen was because you wanted to make sure he was hammered, but at the time you said something about you suspecting him before the bandwagon got moving.

Zipzup, can you explain your code plan again? I'm still not quite following it. I can confirm that you sent me a pm where you initially told me that you had sent codes to seamus and Vazquez, then later on gave me a code that stated that x was the first number. Why did you specifically send codes to us, and what were you hoping to achieve if Vazquez and the tracker didn't die? Can you talk us through what would have happened in an ideal situation? I'm sure it must make sense, but I'm still not grasping it.

So Nathan thought we had 24 hours left. Why was he hovering and watching the vote and when would be a good time for him to vote if there was that much time left?

I wasn't hovering. I woke up, read through a few pages worth of posts, noticed that there were only a few hours left in the day and voted for claw because of the suspicions I'd raised earlier.

[mostlytechnic]

4 of 2, have you ever played a game here with a Scum Watcher?

Nope, but since pretty much every single game here the host has tried SOMETHING new, I don't restrict my thinking to only the normal. I've also only been scum a couple times, so I'm honestly not that familiar with the "normal" scum team setup. Just noticed that my sig doesn't state side on a bunch of the games, but it's only been 2 or 3 games I've been scum IIRC. And it's not like it's that outlandish of a role. Heck, Mafascum wiki declares watcher to be normal on either alignment. Not just townie.

4 of 2, I still don't know why you posted up a detailed theory about prs and vanillas claiming to Clem and then negated it in the very same post. I'm also not sure why there HAS to be a scum among the Clem bandwagoners. I don't believe the scum would all vote for wen, but that doesn't necessarily mean some had to have voted for Clem. I find your vote on an inactive to be a scummier move than a Clem vote, personally.

Because I was thinking out loud. Hypothetical scenarios. Heard of em? Apparently though a few people couldn't follow my logic and kept asking... it wasn't meant to be a long discussion of how to claim to clem. It was looking at her as town vs scum, and the claiming idea was a side thought. I knew it was a bad idea so I said not to IN THAT VERY SAME POST so people didn't think it was a real suggestion.

Moving on to my vote for zipzop.... here's all the day 1 votes, with proven townies in green:

11 votes for Doctor Wen (Xenophobic Monoxide): (Mediumsnowman, Hinckley, Tariq, Bob, Captain Nemo, TinyPiesRUs, CallMePie, Fhomess, Piratedave84, Jluck, Ranger of the Forest)

6 votes for Clementine Lister (Lind Whisperer): (Chromeknight, Sir Stig, Xenophobic Monoxide, Lazychicken, Lady K, Dragonfire)

1 vote for Vasquez Rodriguez (Lady K): (Lind Whisperer)

1 vote for Hannah Ford (Ranger of the Forest): Mostlytechnic

I'm assuming there's 4 scum and a SK. I know I'm town, and I think Clem is town. So that means all the scum are on the Clem and Wen bandwagons. Would ALL the scum really be on one? Especially when the voting was a bit split most of the day? It's not like it was a total runaway mass vote like when the investigator announces they've found a scum. So yes, I think there is scum voting Clem on day 1.

[Sir Stig]

Zipzup, can you explain your code plan again? I'm still not quite following it. I can confirm that you sent me a pm where you initially told me that you had sent codes to seamus and Vazquez, then later on gave me a code that stated that x was the first number. Why did you specifically send codes to us, and what were you hoping to achieve if Vazquez and the tracker didn't die? Can you talk us through what would have happened in an ideal situation? I'm sure it must make sense, but I'm still not grasping it.

Ok, I will try to get everything.

Because I did not trust Clementine (for obvious reasons), nor Laura (read the PMs between us that I posted earlier today, spacetime).

If I was killed it would have been a big chance that one or both of them were scum. They needed to be checked out, but at the time it was total chaos, a lot of people that barely posted. I was ambiguous about the whole issue, but had no one I felt I could trust. I bluffed Clementine saying I had discussed this with one other person because I thought it would make it less likely that he or his team would kill me.

Seamus have posted the PMs between him and me. This was his suggestion:

Give one person a code and the other person the solution. So, for example, tell Actor 3 "f" and then tell Actor 4 that you've given Actor 3 "the letter of the alphabet that corresponds with the order the player appears in the list of players in the confirmation thread."

So, f would be the fourth person down. That way you're not telling anybody anything and they can connect only if you die.

How could these connect only if I die? If I was unlucky and gave the code to two scum I would have given them the tracker (Laura) and Clem that a had a tracker report that said he stayed home the first night (likely true considering we now know Laura was town). This does not prove Clem to be town however, but it matches with his claim of the back up role. If I gave one of the codes to a scum they could lie about their part, ending up with getting another townie killed at the cost of putting themselves and the other townie under suspicion.

So I tried to make a code that would be hard to keep hidden. Keep in mind that this was in case I got killed, because that was the scenario where they would be compromised, if it was a scum play. Since I did not die, why the eagerness of getting it out in the open and revealing the ones that would be more inclined to be town?

Here is the full code:

Seamus got +2, nothing more. This is because he brings things up no matter what side he is on. Although I am now of the opinion that he makes up his mind (consciously or subconsciously) first and then tries to pick things apart to force things to fit his predetermined opinion.

Vasques got 1 and 17, nothing more.

Bock got confirmation page, order of signing in posts.

This was the initial code.

I sent reminder posts to:

Nathan informing him that Seamus and Vasques got the code.

4 of 2 informing her that Seamus and Bock got the code.

Diamond Dodd informing him that Bock and Vasques got the code.

Later I realised I had not specified which number was the tracker and which one the tracker result was about. So I informed:

4 of 2 that the highest number was the tracker.

Nathan that the lowest number was for X.

This would make 1 and 17, +2 = 3 and 19 on the confirmation page signing in order. Lowest number is Clementine (X, fomrely known as the make up artist, not to be confused with costume designer) and Laura (tracker).

I admit in hindsight that it was to complicated. Or not complicated enough, since it would not have worked if Seamus, Vasques or Bock got killed.

Let me reason a bit here: Neither of the initial codeholders knew who the other was, before 4 of 2 informed Seamus and Bock about the code. Vasques got killed. Which brings up an important question. 4 of 2: at what time did you inform them of the code? Was it Day 2 or Day 3?

I don't know where my mind was in the PMs with Clementine. When I realized I had messed up the roles, I still somehow thought Clementine said the same person contacted him. I can only blame this on brain dysfunction because of information overload. The similarities of the flattering PMs we both received mislead me, and I was wondering why would the tracker inform Clementine about a result that although it matches with her claimed role, does not prove him town. Going back and reading the PMs between me and Clementine I see that this is where my confusion started. I should have informed in public that I had been contacted by someone saying they had a tracker result showing Clem staying at home. However this was not so clear to me at the time, and I had a strong scumread on Laura at the time.

Although the code went obsolete it has had some other unexpected results. It was not clear that the tracker was dead at the start of the day. Seamus and Minga in particular have been very eager to get the identities of these, even though I wasn't killed. It also compromises Bock and or Seamus since 4 of 2 informed both of them who had the code. I hope 4 of 2 can give us an honest answer. If it was before the night actions, either of them could have informed their team and/or killed Vasques to prevent the code from... Implicating someone. Quite possibly Clementine. But since I am alive and could share that... discredit me and get me lynched.

My top suspects at this time:

Seamus

Clementine

Bock?

[MagPiesRUs]

Because I was thinking out loud. Hypothetical scenarios. Heard of em? Apparently though a few people couldn't follow my logic and kept asking... it wasn't meant to be a long discussion of how to claim to clem. It was looking at her as town vs scum, and the claiming idea was a side thought. I knew it was a bad idea so I said not to IN THAT VERY SAME POST so people didn't think it was a real suggestion.

I know it was a hypothetical, but if you knew it was a bad idea and you didn't recommend it, why did you post it at all? It just feels like a complicated theory scum would come up with to both appear helpful and to distract the thread and fill up time.

[mostlytechnic]

4 of 2: at what time did you inform them of the code? Was it Day 2 or Day 3?

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Although the code went obsolete it has had some other unexpected results. It was not clear that the tracker was dead at the start of the day. Seamus and Minga in particular have been very eager to get the identities of these, even though I wasn't killed. It also compromises Bock and or Seamus since 4 of 2 informed both of them who had the code. I hope 4 of 2 can give us an honest answer. If it was before the night actions, either of them could have informed their team and/or killed Vasques to prevent the code from... Implicating someone. Quite possibly Clementine. But since I am alive and could share that... discredit me and get me lynched.

My PMs to both Seamus and Bock were after the night action deadline. Seamus I contacted during the night between day 2 and 3. Bock I didn't contact until Seamus started talking about your codes in day 3. More importantly, I did NOT and COULD NOT have compromised anyone - you ONLY gave me the names of Seamus and Bock, NOT Nathan or Vasquez. I had no idea they were involved in the code system until they were brought up today. And also, why did you NOT give Seamus and Bock any names like you did me? How were they supposed to connect with the rest of the code if you had died?

I know it was a hypothetical, but if you knew it was a bad idea and you didn't recommend it, why did you post it at all? It just feels like a complicated theory scum would come up with to both appear helpful and to distract the thread and fill up time.

By that logic, which one of us dropped the topic days ago (and TRIED to drop it even before that, but Seamus et al kept bringing it up) and which one of us is wasting time with re-beating a dead horse now?

Heck, I even answered some of Seamus's smaller questions via PM just to try to stop the public distraction that it had become.

[MagPiesRUs]

By that logic, which one of us dropped the topic days ago (and TRIED to drop it even before that, but Seamus et al kept bringing it up) and which one of us is wasting time with re-beating a dead horse now?

Heck, I even answered some of Seamus's smaller questions via PM just to try to stop the public distraction that it had become.

I wouldn't consider questioning something scummy that you said and which you have no explanation for 'wasting time '. It seems you're using Paul's defense now, admitting to doing weird things and expecting us to forget about them.

[mostlytechnic]

I wouldn't consider questioning something scummy that you said and which you have no explanation for 'wasting time '. It seems you're using Paul's defense now, admitting to doing weird things and expecting us to forget about them.

But that's not what you're doing. You're just repeating questions that have already been addressed multiple times. So I'm done with this topic.

[Hinckley]

Although the code went obsolete it has had some other unexpected results. It was not clear that the tracker was dead at the start of the day. Seamus and Minga in particular have been very eager to get the identities of these, even though I wasn't killed. It also compromises Bock and or Seamus since 4 of 2 informed both of them who had the code. I hope 4 of 2 can give us an honest answer. If it was before the night actions, either of them could have informed their team and/or killed Vasques to prevent the code from... Implicating someone. Quite possibly Clementine. But since I am alive and could share that... discredit me and get me lynched.

My top suspects at this time:

Seamus

Clementine

Bock?

Your logic is dizzying, mate. So, 4 of 2 contacted me about him and Bock having the other parts of the code (after the NA deadline, yes I can confirm that, 7 hours after the NA deadline to be exact) and I didn't respond to him and instead went directly to you. Then in the morning, 4 of 2 suggests that me, him and Bock connect our code even though you're still alive and you don't have any suspicion of 4 of 2? And you suspect me because Vazquez got killed when her name was never mentioned to me as someone who had the code? And where did I push for the identities of the people you gave the code to?

Also, your earlier implications that Bock, 4 of 2 and I were working together because 4 of 2 told me that they were involved with the code doesn't make sense as you did give 4 of 2 mine and Bock's name. You are one of the most confusing people I've ever had to deal with in this game.

Furthermore, if you gave 2 identical codes to two sets of three people how does the code break when one person dies? One set of three is still complete.

Nobody can honestly be this illogical. Your tracker is dead and for some reason you're focusing on why someone you gave your tortured code to is dead, whenever it seems to me that Vazquez wasn't even one of the people that was revealed to anybody else as being part of the code. I kind of don't want to even post this because if you respond to it, I'm going to have to read it and just trying to sift through your logic fills me with a sense of dread. You're all mouth and trousers!

[Sir Stig]

I've never said I was not suspicious of 4 of 2.

Furthermore, if you gave 2 identical codes to two sets of three people how does the code break when one person dies? One set of three is still complete.

You are reading things that are not there. Try to read my above post explaining everything about the code. Where did you get 2 identical codes from?

Nobody can honestly be this illogical. Your tracker is dead and for some reason you're focusing on why someone you gave your tortured code to is dead, whenever it seems to me that Vazquez wasn't even one of the people that was revealed to anybody else as being part of the code. I kind of don't want to even post this because if you respond to it, I'm going to have to read it and just trying to sift through your logic fills me with a sense of dread. You're all mouth and trousers!

The tracker is dead. Why did I bring up Vasquez? Yeah, you are right. 4 of 2 only knew Bock and you had the code. I did not think that one through.

I come with no absolutes, but I have to bring up valid questions, when I think of them. I am not working as quickly to draw conclusions, and I try to work by deduction. If I come up with questions that are not fully developed, feel free to point it out, like you just did. I think It is better if I don't try so hard.

Well then my top suspects are:

I don't have a clue.

[Hinckley]

Why are people not voting??

[mediumsnowman]

Why are people not voting??

I would assume since Paul claimed, no one candidate has come out as overly scummy to be lynched, like Wen and Claw. Of the 4/12 people who have voted, they have all voted for different people.

[Hinckley]

I would assume since Paul claimed, no one candidate has come out as overly scummy to be lynched, like Wen and Claw. Of the 4/12 people who have voted, they have all voted for different people.

Yes, Paul claimed Scum Watcher. Are you even reading?

*I know he didn't claim Scum Watcher but that's what is highly implicated by 4 of 2 postulating yesterday that the Scum Watcher would target Clem to find the protector...and Paul targeted Clem and found (I assume) the protector! Hello????

I'm not implicated with 4 of 2 in any way.

Yes you are. I've implicated you with him. You watched Clem and found someone targeting her. 4 of 2 postulated that the Scum Watcher would watch Clem to find the protector. That implicates you two together if you like it or not. You're implicated with him. You are. Implicated. With. 4 of 2.

Nope, but since pretty much every single game here the host has tried SOMETHING new, I don't restrict my thinking to only the normal. I've also only been scum a couple times, so I'm honestly not that familiar with the "normal" scum team setup. Just noticed that my sig doesn't state side on a bunch of the games, but it's only been 2 or 3 games I've been scum IIRC. And it's not like it's that outlandish of a role. Heck, Mafascum wiki declares watcher to be normal on either alignment. Not just townie.

Mmmmm Hmmmmmmm. I see. So you randomly chose Scum Watcher because hosts try new things. Yet at the same time you say you weren't even aware that it would be different from the norm. I'm not saying it's an outlandish role. I'm saying it's an uncanny coincidence that there's never (or rarely) been one on EB and you randomly chose it to postulate what Clem could do with claiming her role. Then the Scummiest player in the game claimed Watcher and did what you said the Scum Watcher would do.

Yup, beat me to it. Maybe Paul IS scum and I gave him the idea? Dunno. I only know I'm not. Or maybe he's town and I gave him the idea to watch for scum targeting Clem with anything - their own watcher, a killer, rolecop, whatever. Or maybe just A WATCHER WATCHING CLEM WAS A GOOD IDEA SO TWO PEOPLE BOTH HAD IT.

You could've been trying to play the Townie and not realized that Scum Watcher wasn't common on EB (because you've only played Scum twice ) and made that list not realizing it would implicate you later. Or you forgot you had said it when you were discussing Night Actions. Or wouldn't realize anyone would pick up on it or it might be left as WIFOM.

And just to be an megablocks, I reject the idea that you wouldn't know a Scum setup because you've only played Scum twice. So you don't pay attention when people report Night Action results? You've never tried to figure out what the Scum could be doing? You've never read the Conclusion of a game where the host posts all the roles and Night Actions?

[Hinckley]

It's so strange. 4 of 2 and Paul were hovering around here, doing nothing. Then I posted and they left! Amazing... I'm like a magician. I can make Scum disappear. Or maybe I'm some sort of household cleaner!

For cleaning out Scum buildup.

[mostlytechnic]

Yes you are. I've implicated you with him. You watched Clem and found someone targeting her. 4 of 2 postulated that the Scum Watcher would watch Clem to find the protector. That implicates you two together if you like it or not. You're implicated with him. You are. Implicated. With. 4 of 2.

And just to be an megablocks, I reject the idea that you wouldn't know a Scum setup because you've only played Scum twice. So you don't pay attention when people report Night Action results? You've never tried to figure out what the Scum could be doing? You've never read the Conclusion of a game where the host posts all the roles and Night Actions?

Well if one minor statement by me and one night action by Paul means we're on the same team, then he's town. Because I am. Or MAYBE you're making too much out of nothing. I mean, you're not far off here from saying "player X used the word 'indeed' yesterday and player Y used it today, they MUST be quoting off the scum board together!"

And since you mentioned it, yes, you are

And yes, I've read the conclusions and so forth - but that doesn't mean I memorized every night action that has ever been used. Why would I assume that no scum team has ever had a watcher on EB when I haven't played in every game ever, haven't been scum very often, and it's explicitly normal according to mafiascum? It seems to me like a logical role to give the scum, so therefore something I didn't even think twice about mentioning. If we've had pill games and shape-shifters and so forth, why would me thinking that the scum might have a watcher be so inconceivable to you?

It's so strange. 4 of 2 and Paul were hovering around here, doing nothing. Then I posted and they left! Amazing... I'm like a magician. I can make Scum disappear. Or maybe I'm some sort of household cleaner!

You do love to make a big deal out of people reading and not posting. Remember, most of us have jobs on this planet. And the last post I read from you (before this latest couple) was the "why haven't people voted?!?!?!" post - and I HAVE. So I didn't feel the need to respond to your bolded tantrum.