Tommy Styrvoky Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) I have designed this reinforced differential for a large 2 differential steering system for a very large tank model in the far future. I lack the small turntables to build this at the moment, but I believe this will function correctly and be a medium sized differential that doesn't utilize the large turntables. Since I lack the small turntables, I think this will work, but I'm not sure how well it will hold up to torsional stress, but this could be fixed if there is 2 gears being used to power both turntables in sync. It may be prone to seperation where the turntables are connected to the main frame of the differential. Version 1 http://www.bricksafe...erential xl.ldr Version 2 I reinforced the differential http://www.bricksafe...ntial xl V2.ldr version 3 Version 3, I took Zblj's suggestion and replaced the 20z's with knob gears. http://www.bricksafe.com/files/Tommy_styrvoky/differential%20xl%20V3.ldr differential xl V3 by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr differential xl V3 exploded by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr Edited April 9, 2015 by Tommy Styrvoky Quote
Tommy Styrvoky Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 Can you please also post a picture? I will try, as I am at school and for some odd reason I can't upload photos to flickr, but I can try uploading to bricksafe. Quote
Tommy Styrvoky Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 Can you please also post a picture? Images have been added. Quote
Tommy Styrvoky Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) I reinforced the differential further, I don't think it will come apart or have any problems now. http://www.bricksafe.com/files/Tommy_styrvoky/differential%20xl%20V2.ldr Edited April 8, 2015 by Tommy Styrvoky Quote
Zerobricks Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Sorry but that is IMPOSSIBLE to build. Tricky to build Use knob gears, they are stronger. Edited April 8, 2015 by Zblj Quote
nikolyakov Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 But how you will connect 5L liftarm in the middle and #1 connectors? Some force? Quote
Tommy Styrvoky Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) But how you will connect 5L liftarm in the middle and #1 connectors? Some force? It's possible to assemble without force, it's just a puzzle. Version 3, I took Zblj's suggestion and replaced the 20z's with knob gears. http://www.bricksafe.com/files/Tommy_styrvoky/differential%20xl%20V3.ldr Edited April 9, 2015 by Tommy Styrvoky Quote
Jeroen Ottens Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 For even further locking of all parts you might want to use two thin 5L beams with crossholes at the end instead of the 5L thick beam in the center. That way the #1 connectors are fixed in rotation. In practice it will stiffen the structure I think. Quote
Tommy Styrvoky Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 differential xl V3 by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr This photo summarizes the assembly components, first build the central piece, then attach components with turntables, then mount axles to knob gears, finally attach the longitudinal pins to complete it. differential xl V3 exploded by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr Quote
Boxerlego Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 This differential build looks like it is going well. It will be interesting to see how the reinforced differential will work out with both kinds of gearing bevel and knob. The knob gears when under high load tend squeak after a little while. Quote
Tommy Styrvoky Posted April 9, 2015 Author Posted April 9, 2015 For some odd reason I forgot to have the newer color for the 5 long axles, the instructions have been updated, and I am preparing to upload this to rebrickable. Also I will begin designing a XL dual differential steering system. Quote
Tommy Styrvoky Posted April 9, 2015 Author Posted April 9, 2015 here's some new renders, I am still working on improving them, right now I use LDview to render them. differential xl V3 by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr differential xl V3 exploded by Tommy Styrvoky, on Flickr Quote
__________________________ Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 This is a pretty clever idea! Would this be useful for subtractors for tanks? For any other application, it seems 2 perpendicular knob gears would be best. Quote
Tommy Styrvoky Posted April 12, 2015 Author Posted April 12, 2015 the model is up on rebrickable http://rebrickable.com/mocs/TommyStyrvoky/xl-differential Quote
__________________________ Posted April 12, 2015 Posted April 12, 2015 the model is up on rebrickable http://rebrickable.c...xl-differential 5 bucks for 100% of the pieces I think I actually have the parts to build this...This is a step toward more powerful tanks, since there is no worry of the knob gears breaking under massive torque. Quote
DickesC Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 Has anyone actually built this? From the pictures i think it will break under high load Quote
Tommy Styrvoky Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 Has anyone actually built this? From the pictures i think it will break under high load It should be structurally solid, if it is reinforced correctly in the frame around it. Where do you think the differential will break ? Quote
DickesC Posted April 13, 2015 Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) If you look at this picture I think there is nothing that prevents the turntable on the right side to go "up" (and the left one to go "down") But i think it has to be built to check that Edited April 13, 2015 by DickesC Quote
Tommy Styrvoky Posted April 13, 2015 Author Posted April 13, 2015 https://www.flickr.c...07/17061951286/ If you look at this picture I think there is nothing that prevents the turntable on the right side to go "up" (and the left one to go "down") But i think it has to be built to check that That's the only place that I worried about, but if the differential is build in a sturdy frame, I don't think it will be possible to force the central section out, as It would require an immense amount of force between the wheels. Quote
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