Ariattny Sugarbottom

Ah so, you were blocked last night, as I was visited by the Water Bearer and drawn a bath, and given the effect that I can not talk about. Okay. Nice one, scum, you saved me. If you weren't also trying to kill me, I'd thank you. That's why you were so pissed at me, Helana, because I am alive, and you didn't want that! That's amazing. Helena, what you don't seem to get, is that we need to get rid of you as well. Sure, killing a scum would be better, but since we don't know any for sure, you are a good alternative. Blackmailing the town like you are doesn't work. Not for you, not for anyone. Your threat makes sense, you need to survive till the end, that's fine. Carrying it out will not help you in any way, but I guess that's up to you, it will probably make the rest of the game fairly uninteresting, but there you go. You see, you keep saying it's the town's fault you are going to be lynched. It's really not, we have to lynch you to win anyways. You brought this on yourself, when you said you were a 100% sure Purplonia was town, and you decided to go this route, there is no other outcome than you being lynched here today. If you're going to make a deal with the town that will end up in us letting you live for the time being, which doesn't work anyway with our win condition being as is, you should have made sure you could swing both ways. Meaning: you should have made sure you knew at least one scum, so you could say: Don't help me, I release PRs, help me, I give you a Scum. Easier said than done, but right now we have NO benefit to letting you live. What's keeping you from telling the names of the PR's anyway? And by the way, what proof have we got that you know these PR's? You can keep blabbing on about this, but that's the reality of it. You are going to be lynched, we really have no choice in that. The only two things up for grabs is how people will view you from now on.

Vote: Helena Hippopaw. Die you waterbearing bitch. I've always wanted to say those five words. We might not win, but honestly, I'm more and more okay with just you not winning. Go back to mafia school, you should. Pioneer my megablocks.

Hm. The action used on me associated with it is certainly no kill, I am still here, and yes it is something, and no, I am not allowed to say what it is. Hope someone else that got targetted by this is still alive and going to speak up. The only thing I can think of... Is that they are in the same faction. Makes sense with the same color allegiance. Then Purplonia could be the serial killer, or she could be the water bearer and someone else is the serial killer, although you do make a good point with the killer haveing the jug. One of those three. You might need to use an encyclopedia and look up Tourette's, you don't seem to understand what it is. And why don't you suggest us a lynch candidate, oh speaker of all the power roles and the towniest of the town. Gee, I can't imagine why. That's a very townie thing to say. Now how about those answers?

You know what I meant. Shut up in case you plan on being useless and not helping the town, not answering, not explaining, no nothing. This seems to be the case, so in that case, I would personally like you to not say anything, but there you go. Make no mistake, YOU are the focus today. You are being completely useless. You think telling people to go find another lynch victim is helpful? No, no it, it is not. Even if there is the off chance you are town and were lied to by Purplonia, that teaches us three things: A: You are dumb. B: You probably should not be in any town block ever because you are bad at it. I think it's more likely you are the SK/scum that talked herself into a corner. Your next post better be an explanation, for your sake. I guess your scum buddies need time to help you write it. Perhaps call them names and tell them to work harder, it seems to be your style.

Why I am pretty sure Purplonia was not in fact the Serial Killer? Last night, I was visited by a Water Bearer. Water Bearer being written in the light grey same as Purplonia's allegiance. And what was found on (in?) Purplonia's body? A water jug. Coincidence? Not likely. I am not allowed to say what being visited by the Water Bearer means, but perhaps there are others that have been visited by him? Purplonia can not be a Water Bearer and a Serial Killer at the same time, therefore there are only two possible explanations: The Serial Killer is still out there. Shut up. Why for animal-heaven's sake? There is no good reason.

11 things: Then why did you not out Purplonia? What good, does it serve the town to keep her role a secret? Surely none. Why would she trust you with her kills? It just doesn't make sense. And are you honestly saying I am a moron for going after Wong Wang? Really? And I did not push for any lynch on day one, if I remember correctly? If you're not going to answer people's concerns and explain everything, I will be pushing for a lynch of you. Do you really think your threats scare me or something?

You just talked yourself into a corner. Four things: If the SK kills by such odd things, why did you not out him exactly? What use is a Serial Killer to the town if they choose their own targets, not by likelyhood of scum, but with some other ruleset. Explain everything at once. It can't be that hard. Here's what I think: You are either the Serial Killer, and you are annoyed that you tried to kill me and failed, and that's why you are so nasty towards me. Possibly Purplonia was an ally of some sort, as you basically saved her life with some pretty big actions yesterday. Must be annoying, to see her get killed. Or, you are actually scum.

Hm ok.... As I said, I'm waiting on my answer just to be sure I'm not breaking any rules, but I'm pretty sure you're lying about this, and I have pretty good evidence to prove it. Six questions: -Why would the SK work with you? (who claims to be town) We aren't really winning, are we now? -Why kill me? Purplonia never mentioned suspicion towards me, if by any chance you were stringing her along possibly with you knowing her to be the SK or something like that. Would it not make more sense for her to kill one of the people she voiced suspicion with? Actually, no one voiced any suspicion towards me except Godric on night 1 with what he said was a jab and Wong on night 2 with what we know was just one of many of his actions that weren't too smart. A lot of people have actually voiced that they think I am town. Unless all those people are somehow not in your super-secret-probably-non-existant town block, you'd have ducked up majorly. Not that it matters, since Purplonia wasn't the SK. night 1 and 2 should be day 1 and 2, of course.

Why can't it be one of the five other possibilities, that the stiffener is the SK? I have a good reason to think Purplonia was not the Serial Killer, but I am not quite sure what I can say about that. I'll let you know...

I'm just asking you to explain yourself, Helena??? Something which I think is totally neccesary considering you flat out lied/were being lied to. You are being totally defensive. Instead of calling me names, how about you answer my five points? Also, this doesn't make any sense. You knew Pink was town, so somehow that makes Godric scum, your words. But you never knew Godric was scum after all? Convenient and really confusing! Also I believe you used the words "99% certain" over Godric's scumminess at one point. Never said I knew for a fact seems pretty off there... How about you send that behind the scenes stuff to me as well? Oh wait, being suspicious of suspicious people makes me an idiot, something you'd never do. My mistake. And why am I a total moron again? I'm just coming back to this because I think this is really not okay. I ask for an explanation, I point out what you did, and in return I get called a total moron twice, it get's said I have a huge ego and my ego suffers from tourette's (how does that even work), and you call my words inane, pissy inferior plastic bricks? I think this is totally uncalled for. I demand an apology.

Hold on, you can't just brush that off, Two things: - You said, you knew for a fact that Purplonia was town. Knew. As in certain. Well that wasn't true. Explain. You aren't an investigator since I doubt they'd see a third party as a town. - You uses shoddy logic and said you were 99% certain Godric must have been scum. What are the odds? He wasn't. - You claim to know a vig, that didn't kill. A vig doesn't have a solid reason not to kill at this point. You are likely not telling the truth here. - Everyone, I think Helena is acting like she's in some sort of a town block, don't claim to her! Likely the fact Purplonia got killed send her plan in disarray, whatever that plan was. I want you explaining this Helena, I am sure you remember, lynch all liars? And you have been saying some pretty big lies.

You can't be in here!

My thoughts on the four main suspects: Hm. I think Godric's first thing, the fact that he's being called out for voting for someone he called a dangerous townie or something like that, is not a good base for a bandwagon against him. I think it's very possible it was what he said it was. The defense that followed sucked, but that seems to be a trend, considering the previous days. I do think it's interesting he's calling other targets scum, and there are some people that seem to follow thought-lines very closely to his. Purplonia, I really don't know. Some of what you say seems suspicious to me, but honestly I am at this point way more suspicious of Gertrude... Her posts and her attempts to lynch Purplonia strike me as odd way more... I think it's odd you there are people saying they shouldn't split the vote. Why? Splitting the vote doesn't matter. Most votes get's lynched. If scum want to manipulate the vote, I doubt there's a real advantage to having two suspects over three... For now, I am going to vote: Godric Goaty-Blather. May very well change it later. I need to go over what Gertrude has said, I feel like. With other targets I meant other people under scrutiny, I didn't state that very clearly.

Ugh. Damn it, Wong. So... let's see. Every person I ever really suspected is dead and turned up town. Good for your confidence... At this very moment I'm trying to see if there's any good ways to see scum among the voters, although I doubt it, as the three people that were under high scrutiny, Krup, Wong and Snarky, were all town. The scum could easily switch and hide between them... I'm going to look for people that casually switched their votes just to make sure one of those was lynched, I guess.

Barkonius, earlier you stated something pretty heavily, why don't you respond to the questions raised at that statement? I'm not going to quote everything again, but I will continue where I left off. After Wong initiated the curse, he went on to make a really odd post that looks to me like he's trying to make Krup out to be suspicious. Uhm... What? Surely Snarky was his highest target since that's who he chose? If he did indeed just use it, to save his life, which worked? Who would he choose? The one that had the most votes, or the other one? Several people went on about how it must be a townie thing. Scum buddies backing him up? A bit later, he makes another post, this time explaining that it was him and why he did it. It may very well just be my imagination, but the post looks to be in a slightly different tone than the rest. I will quote this one because it's very relevant. What do you think? The: "stupid idea, I know" was never there, and we've never seen it since. He did not explain why he hadn't used it after explaining shit. By this post and the fact that he made two posts after using it, before explaining it, we know he was somehow forced to explain. Either by teammates since Wong was still on track of being lynched, or simply from the fact that if Snarky came up town, he'd definitely be lynched today so we'd know it must have been him that did it. Funnily enough, the fact that he came forward with this did save his life. After this, a lot of people came up and quickly voted Snarky, creating a bandwagon. I come back to the people saying it must be a town thing. Why? Seriously, why would it be? The rest of the ordeal is that Wong refuses to adress any points raised at him for the longest time. Comes back to agree with the others that Snarky isn't putting up much of a defense. A real shame, Snarky. I believe that if you did, perhaps you could have lived. I ask him then to respond to his points, which he does barely. He states he thought Krup was weird, and continues to say that he thinks Snarky is suspicous because he is not providing a defense. Hold on, I have some major time line issues here... Come on Wang... When called out on not responding at all, he says Krup is now too bumbling and stumbling to be town, a direct departure from what he said earlier. He also says a voice in his head said he should pick Snarky. Do Odor Eaters communicate via telepathy? Anyway, that's all I can say, I guess. I feel Wong has bearely (sorry) provided any defense for himself, continues to be insulting to the town in various ways, and is just genuinely unhelpful. This doesn't make him scum. Everything added up together does. If he flips scum, we have some very, very good leads for the following days. At this point, I personally don't see any better candidates for lynching. Pfew, that were like, eleven points.

So I assumed the tally as given to us by the host was correct. What is the problem? And I am not a 100% sure. If that makes me wishy-washy, okay. Instead of posts like this, could you respond to your accusations? I was hesistant to vote of Snarky too. What is the chance one of two people, one picked by the other, one of them is scum? As I said yesterday, there was a very, very good chance both of them are town. You are not making much sense here, for not seeing that. Why? Especially since it was pushed greatly by quite a few people that it was only a town thing. While it wasn't certain to be that at all. May everyone not be town or scum? Except myself I am not convinced of anyone myself. It's about who you think is most likely to be scum, not who MUST be scum, since (most of us) won't be able to say that. I also think it's hilarious some people accuse me for being too aggresive, while others accuse me of being hesistant. Surely I am neither. *Accuse me OF being too aggressive.

I said that as a fact, I don't know facts. If you notice, why I think slightly differently now, check the example thing. Anyone has access to that. It'd be really odd for a scum to insist on it. And Twatty isn't on the tally, so sorry. Now she is.

I'm not sure at all he's scum. I promised I would look at all he's said and done, and with what I've gone through and recapped now with the information we now have, it's definitely looking as he's very scummy, along with possibly Dillpickle, but don't think I am at 100% or even at 80%. Does it matter when I vote? If I vote before the time's up, it's fine right? Don't see the problem. I'm not trying to prove a point with my vote or use it as pressure, as Wong knows he messed up, or at least I hope so. I have to admit that I have this grinding feeling in my head that says Wong is just a very useless townie that doesn't know up from down and left from right... If it comforts you: Vote: Wong Wang I can still change it later if I feel like it anyway. I think it's also very useful if we figure out what we learn from lynching Wong exactly, in the case he turns up town. In the case he's scum we have a LOT of leads for follow ups, anyhow. For now I am going to take an act of nobility, I will be back with the rest of the Wong ordeal, and if I can find the time, all the possible leads if we lynch him, with both possibilites. I think at this point Wong might simply be the best lynch as well because he gives us a lot of leads. Who are you voting for, Twatty? Seems a bit odd to call someone out on not voting if you haven't done so yourself...

I promised I would take a thorough look at Wong Wang's statements. I have 9001 points: Wong's first serious statement. He seems to be very wishy washy. Possibly scum behaviour, but not sure at all. This statement doesn't really add a lot of substance. He states the three possibilities and repeats what someone else already said. Scum tend to make substanceless posts, or posts that seem like they have substance. Nothing major. Again, obvious and nothing of substance. After these posts, our very own Bartholomew Bearbutt called him out on these useless posts, here is his response: Note: He's basically defending himself already here. He says it's okay to repeat things. ... What? It seems he jumped the fence here. He seems agitated, driven in the corner by a single statement. Very interesting. How insightful! So... nothing else? Okay.... He wants to vote for someone who is quiet? And vote for someone that has the most votes, because they have the most votes? No that isn't weird at all. This is to Flabflom, in response to that. A really scummy thought if you ask me. What happens if the vote is split? We unsplit it, obviously. Simple as that. Another driven-in-the-corner defense, I think. He was also called out for not responding much to the Krup discussion, by Flabflom, a little bit later. I'll be honest, a lot of what he says makes me want to cringe. That first part? Ugh. If he's town, I don't know, It's pretty rude, but you might need some more education. Rest of the post is basically useless. I fail to see how Bearbutt's words were suspicious in any way, myself. Note that Dillpickle calls both Wong Wang and Bearbutt out. I can't see the reason he would call Bearbutt out though. Did he mean because he wasn't dealing with the Krup thing? Hm. Drubulum calls out Wong Wang for being completely useless at this point. Also, the two hours Wong mentioned came and went. Belinda votes for him. He doesn't respond. I can agree with your logic. Here's a few irrelevant sentences, I vote Krup, not because of what we know, but because he is weird. That is his post here. What the hell. Timly calls the Wong ordeal trivial. Krup says Wong (and Snarky as well) could be lying low while this whole thing is going on. Twatty switches her vote to Wong, with the reasoning that Wong didn't defend himself at all. Which is a good point I will return to in a bit. Dillpickle unvotes Bartholomew, and is seemingly conflicted between Wang and Krup, before deciding on Krup. Is it impossible to say Dillpickle is Wong's ally who came to his aid when Bartholomew was the first to raise attention to Wong? Bartholomew questioned why he was being accused in the first place, something which I haven't figured out yet either. The Bear votes for Wong as well, with the added argument that Wong seemed to wait to see which bandwagon to take. Drubulum said Wong was very silent since he was accused. Lulu raises several points (which where mostly already raised against Wong, but votes for Snarky instead) Something interesting, she calls him she half the time she is talking about. Knowledge we have not? Or? Wong completely breaks character, whatever that means, And he calls his own defense decent? What defense? I haven't missed a post, have I? Plus useless banter. His rulebreak causes his vote count to spring from 4 to 10 fairly quickly, against Krup's 12 at this point, Flabflom's 6 and Snarky's four. This is were it gets interesting. At this point, Krup makes this post: To me, this is scummy as megabluck. It's the scummiest thing Krup had done all day, to me at least. Obviously not to everyone, as Langston Lionheart votes for Wong with the reasoning that he likes Drubulum Panck's case, and that he was suspicious of Wang's bandwagony vote for Krup. Okay. He also misreads the rules as he speaks about Majority. Majorities are for scrubs, we use Most! Much better. He just said where he was coming from... Helena Hippopaw switches her vote from Krup to Wang at this point, on the basis that Krup did not lie to her in private, so he must be alright. ... Okay.... Not very good reasoning there, but I might be missing something. She calls the votes tied. They weren't. THIS is where the curse happens. Okay, let's recap. At this point, Six people had voted for Wong, along with his penalty votes he had Twelve. Ten people still had their votes on Krup. There were a few people that hadn't voted ( I think). There was around 8-10 hours (I think) left in the day? Wong had not defended himself. He had not stated anything about this. he just went and did it. Shortly after we got noticed it happened, he posts this: How about explaining shit???? How about stating things clearly??? I will do the rest later, but to me it's not looking good for him. What does that even mean. And no, that wasn't a question so it doesn't need a questionmark. It was just a general indication that you're dumb. Deal with it.

Wong is scum. He didn't get the same message we did. Jerky way to do things, but there you go.

You misunderstand. I meant you shouldn't use it to incriminate me, because there is no incrimination to be had.

I really weren't sowing any confusion, no one seems to pay attention it, anyhow. Also, in this particular way of doing things, it's still more likely to have a scum gladiator thing than in the way muggles do it. Don't use this to incriminate me.

Hm. I could swear it was worded differently. In that case, I apologize for causing some confusion.

Five things were mentioned: The good guys had non-transferable spells/curses/whatever, but the bad guys had like a pool of them they could switch out from, I think this was before Harriett and her thunderbutt came here. I meant it's not impossible to have a villainous person with a gladiator action. Obviously not here, with the knowledge of them sharing it, but there you go. At this point, I think it's more likely Wong is telling the truth about his action, and his allegiance with it, but I am also at this point looking at everything he has said and done carefully, which you will get my thoughts over later today.

Those posts are by Krup and Godric respectively.