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I wouldn't be surprised if LEGO put Voldemort from Malfoy Manor into the bike, if they want three figures. He's in the scene, and it makes him more accessible for the time being. As far as the new show, I oddly wouldn't be surprised if LEGO first delves into it with some 18+ stuff. The show is on HBO, which I don't think has as much of a younger audience, so testing the waters with an 18+ model representing an iconic location (or something like the little mermaid one with something as an "overall" representation could work well.

I was debating posting something similar, but you got to it first. While the Star Wars bubble might recognize a UT-AT to an extent, no casual fan will, much less a kid who has limited ability to get any $160 sets and will want one they recognize.

It was never rumored as a 4+ set, but it was rumored at $55 ($50 at that point) for a short bit due a set number mixup between that and the Snowspeeder... Yeah I have mixed thoughts on the Turbo. I don't hate the downsizing in this case. I think a lot of it looks pretty solid from an appearance standpoint, but Solid Brix' comments about the missing cannons, etc. have definitely swayed me a bit. The build of it all is just so unstable. That's fine enough for me as a display set, but awful as a kids' product (which it is).

So originally, the rumor was that 75414 was a Turbo Tank, and 75413 was a set with Galactic Marines, which people believed was a UT-AT due to the figure lineup. 75414 was then confirmed to be a RTG set, ultimately clarified to be a Hot Rod Snowspeeder. 75413 was then rumored to potentially be the Turbo Tank, but a different, less reliable, individual claimed it was an RX-200. That individual's claim was debunked, and it is now confirmed to be a Turbo Tank.

They wouldn't do a new mould for a promo though, so that won't work. So 2025: Bacara(?), Plo's head, Mundi's head extension (?), Clone P1 Pilot (they could reuse a regular P1 mould, so unknown), K2 body/head, Dedra hair/hat, ARC 170 pilot helmet, Death Trooper helmet, Kaminoan (?)... So the Death Star should hopefully have new moulds then... I've also wondered if the B1 buildable droid and the MTT could be a good time to release a new mould for the Battle droids...

I'm sure that LEGO is planning for this to be a long-term set. It's obvious that they would want this around for the 50th anniversary of ANH in two years, and I'm sure they are hoping that this will have enough buyers to push into more $1k range sets. All of this is obviously dependent on sales though. Frankly I don't think a formula directly works well for releases. There are movies coming out on occasion, and new shows, and other new content that LEGO may or may not make sets for (please Jedi III, LEGO, whenever it releases). The biggest thing is that there should be variety and accessibility with what is on shelves, in my opinion. I don't care if there are 10 clone sets around, but I want to be able to get the main characters from trilogies easily for kids, and to have options of what era and movies I want with more than minimal numbers of sets for important periods of the universe. For example, I feel like right now, there is a relatively good amount of variety. There is a number of clone wars sets (including some unexpected ones like the Gunship), some great OT sets like the ISD and Tantive, some PT sets like Obi Wan's Delta-7 and the AT-TE, and a mix of 18+ buildables from mulitple eras for fans of those (plus UCS, but looking at non-D2Cs here). You can dispute on quality of sets and certain things you may want, but there is a mix of everything at this time, which I think is good. On the PT and Clone Wars end, you can also get Cody, Rex, Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Ahsoka on shelves right now, with all except Cody in relatively cheap sets. The OT doesn't have this, which I find to be a fault with the current lineup. Part of the reason why people are upset with this summer is that there isn't variety. Sure, you get some cool buildables for fans of those, including ones from multiple eras, but it's mostly TCW (desirable sets or not, it's one era for most all playsets). This doesn't fix the issues with lack of available OT figures, not to even mention the fact that ST fans are getting almost nothing, and no figures.

Apologizes. I was sent a picture of one of the Zillo cannons alongside the speculation of a TX130, so I mixed them up. You are correct.

Just to note, a TX-130 isn't a Republic Fighter Tank like so many people are calling it. I think the TX-130 is the giant never-made cannons from the Zillo Beast...

Think about it this way - If LEGO makes Plo Koon's fighter in June, and a bunch of people buy that for the figure, and then they release a set with him with Wolf (or even just a desirable Plo Starfighter or something that people will also want), then they just made an extra $13 per Plo for the people who didn't wait.

I would tend to agree with this, but I want to take it a step further. LEGO knows that they can get more money if they don't give people the option to get the Star Wars characters for cheaper. Think about it this way: Imagine you want to build up an army of Stormtroopers (in 2025, mind you) - If you want three stormtroopers, the cheapest option is to pay $40 per set of 3 with the Rebel vs. Imperial battle pack, totaling $200 if you want 15 of them. If LEGO put Stormies in a CMF, it would cost people $75 to get 15 of them, and if they call it quits at that, LEGO knows they could have gotten $125 more if they had packaged differently, since there is a large group that would buy up battle packs (with everything they didn't want too) to amass their army. Or, for the clone-peoples in the room, the most economical way to buy 212th troopers from a store shelf is the $140 AT-TE (now $112 USD in a lot of places, so we'll go with that). That's an extra $97 for LEGO for every AT-TE people buy to expand their 212th army. One more example - Imagine LEGO did a CMF with Ghost Ben Kenobi for $5. People would buy one of them, and call it a day, or maybe they'd buy 3 CMFs if they did the three ROTJ ghosts. Now consider if LEGO put all three ghosts into a $500 Ewok Village as the only "new" figures. How many people would quickly buy that Ewok Village to finally get the ghost figures that LEGO had never made before. This is pretty different than Harry Potter. For one, there isn't a big enough LEGO Harry Potter extensive collector fanbase in the same sense as Star Wars. People don't army-build Harry Potter (intentionally), and no one is going to drop $300 to get a James Potter figure unless he comes in a great set with good builds, etc. (and people would buy this for the whole package), so putting figs like James, or Azkaban Bellatrix, or others into a CMF isn't going to affect Harry Potter sales in the same way that putting Ben's Ghost in a $5 set would affect a $500 Ewok Village.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. People aren't saying we want all OT stuff again. In fact, people are even specifically saying that they wished the MTT was a PT one in some cases. People just want variety. And getting a bunch of buildable characters as pretty much the only non-TCW "playsets" is NOT variety, no matter how good the playsets could be. Additionally, some people just have more fondness for the main trilogies of movies (I'm even including ST in there, since some people prefer that to TCW (not arguing that point, just putting it out there)), and so when a wave is basically all non-trilogy playsets, it's a lot less exciting to those people (myself included). I am happy we are getting clone sets for people who want them, but we (I think I speak for a lot of people here) want a mix of clone sets with everything else. NOT the "clone drought" (as people want to put it) of the mid 2010s, but a mix of things from it all.

This. Brick Reporter being involved is the important part - he is consistently an unreliable source of information. And yeah, the emojis are about as vague as possible for Marvel. If A-Tower hadn't been released, people could just as reasonably claim that the scientist was Stark and it must be that set too. I.E. the emojis literally mean nothing.

Just saying, but a new Landspeeder or Snowspeeder would be well overdue in system scale... I honestly wouldn't mind if that was what was released.

At least we're getting the midi and helmet, but no mainline system sets is awful.

Agreed on this. I'm intrigued to see how the Death Star turns out, but the MTT being blue killed my interest there, and the amount of clone related sets is of no interest to me. I just hope the last two sets are something either PT or OT based that aren't just clones (or ST based even)... @Renown please tell me there is at least something interesting left...

I would love to see more Raimi sets than just the train one.. Here's hoping

Wouldn't say this is necessarily true. The last Palpatine that they put in a Dark Side book ended up releasing almost exactly the same in later sets. However, it does put any future Exegol set in question for sure.

Tons of people in the LEGO community are fans of D&D, otherwise there wouldn't be the hype around the set and CMFs all over. They are selling like crazy because of people liking D&D and medieval, so that's wrong to say nobody is a fan. The thing is, LEGO sets are for kids, who are growing up and haven't been able to buy a Luke's landspeeder in 4 years - the kid who was 2 years old in 2020 is now 6, and may want one. Same with any other fighter. There's a reason why we get vehicles like those frequently - because they sell to the main target audience of retail LEGO Star Wars - kids. Someone like Ziro wouldn't be interesting/pertinent to kids (since he was last focused on in CW heavily about 14 years ago in a couple of 20 minute episodes). Kids want their recognizable vehicles, etc. There's a reason why the Coruscant gunship doesn't do well, as much as the Justifier, or the Bad Batch shuttle, or anything else like that - the price isn't viable (main problem with the Justifier), and the content isn't known enough by the main interested consumer. You can appeal to the diehard fans too, which is why they make weird things like the red gunship, but those things don't always do well, and Landspeeders and X-Wings sell better.

I'm going to say it, but none of those Hutts are appealing (much less known) except Jabba to the average consumer, especially to likely add a large amount of cost to the respective set. And I'm not sure what small animals you mean. They put Correlian hounds in multiple sets during Solo, etc., but Star Wars doesn't have consistent "small creatures" like friends cats and dogs. Generic nobodies only show up in sets like the Cantinas, etc. where they make sense, and even then, if they put "non-canon" aliens, etc. into sets, then people would complain excessively about how they were "paying more for non-canon stuff" and "why didn't they put this other clearly recognizable unknown character there instead." As stupid as it sounds, we all know the drill. Also, we know they can't do a CMF for whatever licensing reasons, and even if they did make one, it would NOT be one per year, since it would be competing with other unlicensed and licensed (and now themed - like space, F1, etc.) CMFs. At best, it would be 1 per 2-3 years, if they even could make them. As much as consumers may not "care how they get the molds," there does need to be some recognition that there isn't free reign from any designer for anything, like people also want to pretend. It doesn't inherently matter how much a theme sells, etc., it matters what budget the company sets for things, and other such constraints that supersede. Having a process cause less molds (not the same as "poor product quality" in the same sense), also likely means that budget is going into something else desired by a consumer (or known to be desirable to the consumer group overall), which would lead to other complaints if not addressed. It's a game of compromises based on ability and budget, not LEGO just being evil and greedy like people like to assume (yes, they are greedy, but there are lines that people ignore).

CMFs have a different budget entirely for their own stuff. Star Wars has a single overall theme budget generally (not a budget for UCS, other sets, etc. separate), so the moulds in this set depend on the number of new moulds they can make for the year (which is generally assigned). For all we know, they only had the number of moulds for Jabba, Wooof, Leia, Salacious, and Max, and so they compromised on Bib. The price of a set on release doesn't determine how many moulds it can have in a 1:1 relationship like a lot of people seem to think. To add to this, 2003 (and even 2012) were very different times. LEGO is now budgeting for FAR more themes than they had then when special fig moulds were just starting (and probably cost a lot, but they made less then). LEGO designers are given a limit within themes/sets for number of new parts, recolors, etc. they are allowed, and even then there are situations like the Jurassic gate where a designer wanted to add a goat mould, and LEGO didn't let them since there wasn't versatility outside of that set at the time (obviously they do make a lot of one-off moulds, but it's dependent on outside factors sometimes). I will also say, by the looks of it, this set has VERY few stickers, which is great. Max's instrument, and maybe a couple of panels.

At this stage, we already have the leaked figure list - Jabba, Rebo, Salacious, Leia, 3PO, R2, Gamorrean, Klaatu, Bib, and one other alien.

As happy as I am with the figs that are there, I think it suffers HEAVILY from release timeframe. Some of the figs included pair great with figs from the Disney 100 CMF, but yet there's no way to get that for the average consumer now.

Regarding the first point, we were discussing overall interest, so was mainly going off of that idea. Certainly price factors in, but that's why I also focused on $45 and $50 sets too (which are the "cheaper" sets more often than not anymore). And those sets were revealed because of Gamescom going on. I wouldn't bet on any other January 2025 pictures until closer to December timeframe, but certainly more descriptions could come.

A couple of extra notes to this: The Boba Palace set, which by all accounts should have sold well since it had a variety of aliens, a palace remake for the first time in years, and Boba Fett, failed miserably given that they were hard to sell even on clearance. The Kenobi duel, which by all accounts should have sold alright to kids who wanted Kenobi and Vader, plus a cool droid, etc. for a cheap(er) price, sat on shelves with no interest, and was only sold when it hit $25 or less on clearance for people who wanted to stock up to resell Ned-B. The Ghost only got pushed forward a year in retirement (to 2025) because LEGO discounted it and people bought it up to resell during the discount on May 4th (which LEGO interpreted as renewed interest I'm sure). The Ahsoka shuttle sold well when it hit Costco for $60 or less, but it just sits on shelves near me with little to no interest. I literally forgot that the E-WING set exists.. And so do a lot of people I think - it's sold well at $90ish, but I otherwise I haven't seen it do all that great, and a similar case with the Tie/Mando fighter... The Mando N-1 sits at $48 everywhere, and even then, it doesn't sell well due to lack of interest. The TCWS7 sets did well, yes, but part of the lack of availability was the release time during 2020 with the pandemic, so I don't think we can go off those numbers for interest (though I'm sure they would have done well anyway). All that to say (and this is certainly region-specific), I don't think the show sets as a whole have been good sellers - at bare minimum at MSRP... I don't really blame LEGO for stopping doing as many, and for using the few that do release (like Peredia, Onyx, etc.) to pack in all the important characters to make sure they sell.

The only post I've seen with this is from the Brick Reporter who is NOT AT ALL RELIABLE. His "full list of figs" is just speculation at this point outside of the viable rumor below from a reputable source (whom BR did not credit in his post). That being said, a reliable source on Instagram (HelloThereRex) did post that Anakin was coming in the set, and that there was a new cockpit design. Guessing that the new cockpit design is part of the cost.