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Pirates Mafia III - Day Three
Justin Reynaud replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
Wow. I'm so glad we got one! I found Joshua suspicious, but was worried he'd flip town. Jean dying is a tragedy for sure. Whatever his role was it certainly seemed to give him an edge that helped the town a lot. With where we are right now 2 possibilities seem to be out there. 1st, Fred and Daniel are working together and playing a very risky scum game. Doesn't seem likely but their words and actions leave the door open for this. 2nd, Alex is scum and hid behind Vincent's text walls the first 2 days. Alex's vanilla claim is suspicious even if we aren't in role-madness. Both the past 2 pirate games have been role-madness. To claim vanilla at this point is just asking for it. It was stupid of me, I know. But I did not count all the votes before placing mine on Joshua. So I did not realize I hammered him. I wanted to lynch him, but I know being the hammer can cast suspicion on said person. It is what it is at this point. I realize I did a suspicious thing, but I'm trying to be open and honest about it. Jean PM'd me at the beginning of last night to point out that I hammered Joshua. Here is his PM: The whole interaction was pinging me hard, but now we know he was town and everything looks different. The way he is pushing for me to believe Joshua was scum now makes he take everything he's said a lot more seriously. I still need to go back and read days 1 and 2, but that's where I'm at now. -
If you are town, who are you most suspicious off?
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Wow, can I just say thank you to everyone for changing the atmosphere of this game literally overnight! I do believe this will make the game more enjoyable for everyone. We are nearing the end of the day and I don't want to go 2 days without a lynch. Joshua has pinged me a little, but not enough that I think it's the right thing to lynch him today. But as I've said from the beginning, lynches early on are extremely helpful when it comes to analyzing behavior towards the end of the game. Unvote: Vincent Denis Vote: Joshua Levitt
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Hello everyone. I wasn't lurking for the past 4 pages of conversation, I was just enjoying the Easter holiday with my family and then had my duties to attend to this morning. Now that I've had a chance to catch up let me comment on a few things: You have been "attacking" Daniel and "defending" Vincent. I'm going to continue to use those words since that's what you have been doing even though you want to try to re-define them. Due to no fault of your own making, these two players have been posting walls and walls of text. To come in and say "I think Daniel is scummy" and "I agree with Vincent" (oversimplified, I know) and not give any more detail pings me as scummy. If you're going to attack one of these two, you unfortunately have to be ready to post a longer reason as to why they seem like scum to you. This is one of the reasons I think they are both acting scummy. It's hard to isolate what makes them seem like scum or town. But give simple statements about it seems like you are either too eager to get 1 lynched or too sure that 1 is on your team. Neither outcome looks good for you. And I try to be so careful when proof reading my posts! My apologies for using incorrect grammer/spelling when using "killer". As for "intruder," that's just a fancy way to say "scum." I wasn't trying to be vague so much as roleplay a little at that point. We are in a Pirates Mafia game after all. As for poke votes, you only have to look as far back as Pirates II to see their helpfulness. Really, if you are an experienced player this seems like a very odd question. At the beginning of day 1 what other kinds of votes are there? What other players are you referring to that Daniel is harassing? Seems to be you and Aiden mostly. Your whole strategy has been to post text walls and Aiden has been super defensive. All 3 of you seem scummy as I posted before. To clarify the reason I think you are scummy, it's because you have been inconsistent and have been hiding behind text walls. Let me also address here why I haven't said more about Joshua since you keep calling me out on that. Should he have been more careful with details when he counted the number of those voting or not voting for a lynch? Yes. Have his actions been odd? Yes. Are they odd enough to ping me as scum, not yet. But that's in part because he, like so many others right now, are not posting much at all. Both you and Daniel have been unhelpful by making the threads hard to navigate and understand. You both keep saying you're done, but then you come right back and keep posting at each other. As for Daniel's claim. If he is who he says he is, then he seems to be playing true to his nature as we saw in the last game. He is loud, he is brash, but it's also his play style. I'm not saying I believe him, but I don't doubt him more because of his claims. It just fits his style.
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These do not coincide lol. Somehow I knew you would misunderstand this! The level headed-ness I referred to was you being less emotionally reactive. That doesn't mean you are being a model citizen today. I'm not going to do your work for you if you want to clear your name from all suspicion. But I will give you my claim that you never answered: His explanations for why he is defending Vincent seem too simple for a townie looking to contribute. Granted, he may have just gotten caught up in the debate early on and is now looking to defend his choices. But it doesn't look that way to me. So far you've only stated that you didn't defend Vincent. If you want to play that game, then instead answer why you think Daniel is scum. Your one liners have come across as too simplistic so far. Again, it could be you have just gotten caught up in the text-wall battle. But I haven't seen anything from you that seems to clear your name. I've never heard of "killering" someone. Care to explain But seriously, what do you mean by "intruder"? Do you just mean scum? You seem to be putting words in my mouth again and again. I'll try to lay it out plainly, then tell me if any of it doesn't make sense. I voted for Joshua as a poke to get conversation started. In many previous games pokes have caused debate among many people, not just the one poked. People started talking which was exactly the point, I've stated this many times. Joshua started talking, but not much. I left my vote on him (as I stated at the time) because he was still being really quiet. Because lurking can be a sign of a scum player or a sign of a scared townie I assumed that a more relevant reason to vote for someone would present itself before the day was over. And it did. He still hasn't said much, so I'm still suspicious of him. But lots of players are being too quiet right now. I hope this clarifies everything for you. I'd love to know if anyone else doesn't understand the timeline. Seems so straight forward to me, but if I need to clarify more I will. I find Daniel suspicious, yes. I am innocent so anyone's defense comes across as correct. But why he wants to defend me could be for any number of reasons. If you had read all of my previous post you would have noted that I find both you and he unhelpful and that I think lynching both of you would be a good thing. I don't think I used the word "scummy" for him before, so if that's what you want clarity on then yes, I find Daniel scummy.
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Here is what you said at the end of day 1: My original and follow up reason for poke-voting was to get data, i.e. people talking so we could analyse what they said later. Here's the specific comment I made first: I don't understand what else you want. The point I made was talking is good. The point you are laying out is that I said getting people to talk is good. Where is the disagreement? All of this insistence on getting answers to questions I've already answered is a great scum play to make a townie look guilty.You, Vincent, ping very hard as scum to me. You keeping using the words "defense" and "offense," but you're very inconsistent about it. Let me remind you of what you said on day 1: and Call it offensive, call it defensive, it doesn't matter. You swooped in to fully agree with with Vincent and attack those who thought him scummy. You seem to have a little more of a level head on your shoulders today, but your lack of answers to the day 1 claims against you plus your unhelpful comments so far today still pings me as scummy. It make it easier for future readers, You, Aiden, ping as scum to me. "Didn't discern"? What did I not discern about Joshua's comments? And I did give my comments on him: You want everyone to read your walls of text, but you can't be bothered to read my comments? Why are you being so careless? Again, PING! The wall of text war between Daniel and Vincent is making everyone look like they are flying under the radar. Vincent has accused me of flying under the radar and I've been one of the more vocal players! I would love to lynch both of them just to prevent that. But I have to agree with those who have said that could be exactly what the scum want. On the other hand, Daniel and Vincent could be actually working together and just playing a really, really elaborate scum move. So I'm left between a rock and a hard place. I know there are more votes on Daniel right now, but Vincent is pinging me too hard to ignore. Vote: Vincent Denis
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Defensive much? Your response is pinging scum so loud! I read every comment carefully so my vote is an informed one. You jumped in to defend Vincent, and now you are defending yourself like the entire town called you scum. If you were town, then you would try to defend your actions rather than throw f-bombs all over the place. But you are acting like scum. Scum would know I'm town and would be worried about others seeing through the mask it seems I've pulled off your face. I'm more sure of my vote now.
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Sorry to interrupt the Daniel&Vincent show, but my popcorn ran out and I thought I'd share my thoughts so far. I believe what I said was: And the poke votes most certainly have got people talking! Um, it's day one. At the beginning of the day all we have are random votes. But that's better than talking about riding giraffes and drinking 5 barrels of rum. As the day goes on those random votes spark conversation which can help lead us to more informed votes. Your reaction to the poke votes doesn't quite ping me as scummy, but it doesn't seem helpful either. I would almost agree with you, except no one can PM during the day this time. If there was a way for the scum to coordinate their public arguments I would almost lean towards Daniel and Vincent both being scum and trying an elaborate scheme. But since they can't I think they are both town, just very foolish townies. This is a very good insight. I will make a mental note to remember one of them may be a Godfather role. As others have said, this vote seems completely unnecessary. Bob already said he would be mod-killed if he can't find a replacement. If you're trying to look helpful/active this is a silly way to do it. I agree with your reasoning. Not enough to throw a vote on him, but his vote for Michael does ping me as scummy. But, through all of the arguments what pings me the most is Aiden. I think both Daniel and Vincent are toxic right now. So to have anyone jump to their defense strikes me as odd. His explanations for why he is defending Vincent seem too simple for a townie looking to contribute. Granted, he may have just gotten caught up in the debate early on and is now looking to defend his choices. But it doesn't look that way to me. Unvote: Joshua Levitt Vote: Aiden Leon
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I am sorry to hear you are under the weather. Your attitude seems to be most abrasive rather than helpful. My vote was a poke to get everyone talking, not just Joshua. And people are still talking, so I see no reason to remove it just yet. Though I imagine a more suitable candidate will present himself before the day is over. As Daniel has pointed out, the poke votes have got people talking. What else would you like to ask for? Perhaps you have Joshua Levitt confused with one of the other soldiers? He has only day old scruff for facial hair as far as I can tell. It is true I neglected to bid him hello when I last commented. I have corrected this now. Andrew's poke on Michael remains intact even though it seems obvious now he is the one we are waiting on a replacement for. Is there a reason you want to analysis my vote more than Andrews? It does not seem likely, but could it be that you and Joshua are both scum and you are seeking to defend him in his absence? Joshua has not added much to the discussion yet. Hopefully he is quickly recovering, but just in case he is trying to lay low for some reason my initial poke remains.
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I know not this Warren Pratt you speak of. Though I have seen in the fort records that he was a soldier here not that long ago. And I am not understanding your 2nd question. Why should I listen to someone else's reasoning? Because that's what we all do... and it was sound reasoning... My vote was a poke to get people talking. I'm glad I succeeded
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I think a day 1 lynch is critical. We dare not waste a chance to killer one of the intruders. And at the very least it allows us data to work off of in future days. I find Andrew's logic about poke votes to be sound. Since he has already voted for Michael, I will vote for Joshua. Vote: Joshua Levitt
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As I stand watch at my post, I reflect on the antics of my fellow soldiers. Everyone at the fort seems fairly subdued. Perhaps they heard about what happened during the hunt for Redbeard's traitors. Only one person, Old Andrew, seems quick to point fingers today. Or maybe it's the touch of la maladie that seems to be sweeping our fair world keeping everyone more reserved. I shall continue to stand watch and munch on my bite of pelican jerky.
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Quoi, no one wants to ride the pelican? Si non, maybe we can cook him and get some fresh food!
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Pirates Mafia III - Confirmation
Justin Reynaud replied to Bob's topic in LEGO Mafia and Role-Play Games
Justin reporting for duty. My personal stance on facial hair is why bother with beard wax or de-worming? My mustachio is enough to charm all the ladies. So where are they? Oh... just dudes in this fort. Well that sucks. Can I get transferred?