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Wow, you even tried presuming how others would respond to your last post and wrote retorts in advance. You must be very fun at parties. Ultimately your opinion on the matter is as worthless to LEGO as mine or any others you read in here. Honestly I think I've outlived my necessity for this forum, so my calling you out as obnoxious is probably the catalyst to make sure I don't bother coming here anymore. LotR was the only reason I came here and now that it's ended these threads are only full of people like you (and noticeable others) who insist on whining over the details ad nauseam. Members like Faefrost who actually seem to have a decent grasp on what's going on try to explain with what seems to me like very sound logic, but it typically falls on deaf ears. There is so much circular discussion going on in here that it's doomed to entropy; paying attention to these threads has been mostly a waste of time for a while now. If the Minas Tirith somehow makes it through Ideas I'm sure I'll hear about it. Enjoy your toys everyone, and lighten up.

Attempting to force your weak opinion this way is what I'm calling lazy. If you feel so strongly about your opinion that you feel the desire to force it onto others online more than once in multiple places, take the time to re-state your argument. The "read my argument elsewhere because I don't have time to educate you fools" approach is lazy, at best. The hubris of that suggestion alone leaves a bad taste in my mouth. And I never put any words in your mouth, I pointed directly to the center of your "argument". You claim that making these sets character focused was the sole reason the sales faltered. You also claim that the movies weren't hero-centric like the books, simply because there were cinematic battle scenes. Both arguments are narrow, misguided, and (I feel) incorrect. Yeah, I mean I wonder why LEGO even bothers paying for a presumably expensive marketing team when they could just tap the community for deep insights in the vein of, "kids don't care about main characters!"

Lazy argument is lazy. I've read your points and still disagree with you. Tolkien glorifies the hell out of the main characters in all of his writings, and PJ accentuates this heavily in the films. Yes there are battles, but there is also so many levels of character development and heroic themes that you have to be delusional to think that the main characters aren't the main focus. Suggesting that others are "in denial" because they're pointing out the massive holes in your argument comes across as desperation. I'm confident that the line has ended, and that it was poorly executed in some respects, but I still disagree with most of the points you're (trying) to make.

haha this gave me a chuckle to be fair this could be said about pretty much any thread; it's easy to get lost in any fanbase conversation if you aren't a fan. There's probably some cross-over, but they really aren't the same thing. There are plenty of Tolkien fans who would buy WETA collectibles but wouldn't consider buying Tolkien-themed LEGO. The aesthetics are entirely different between a brick toy and a reproduction/memorabilia piece.

maybe someone on the Ideas team follows the crazy speculation in this thread and put it there knowing how easy it would be to troll everyone

Rivendell Rivendell RivenDELL sorry, not trying to be a grammar nazi but I just keep seeing this mistake and it bugs me. It's never been Rivendale; I think some people just don't realize that.

sweet, light bley is my favorite color...

haha I know right? as soon as I realized I could manipulate him into a "super villain hang-wringing pose" I was sold. ;)

yeah I actually just came back to edit that out of my post haha. I already found the form on their website and submitted the request. The 'select which pieces' format was very easy and well-thought out. I'm very impressed by their website all around, to be honest.

And after a few hours of building, here it is. Can't really say I understand why there were so many gripes about this set. I think it's fantastic! Also makes a perfect display for The Company. Also, my set was missing one 2x1 sand-green brick. Has anyone else ever experience this before? I've never had a LEGO set with a missing piece before. I was building on a clean table and dumping bags out into bowls, but I still looked everywhere around the table and double checked the bags and am positive it was not included. Will LEGO send me a replacement brick if I contact them? Seems silly but it's noticeable (you can see the lower pillar just to the right of Bofur)

I get what you're saying, but you can't really use the generalized "you" in those statements because those are exactly the reasons I watch the films. Maybe many people watch them as action films, but my favorite parts of the LotR and Hobbit films have always been the parts that take place in the Shire.

That's interesting, and I agree it does look better. if you weren't in Australia I'd be trying to snag your extra ;)

decided to go ahead and buy lonely mountain. Amazon Prime got them back in at MSRP so I went ahead with it rather than missing out on it and having to pay more at TRU (not to mention the added tax). Can't wait to finally get my hands on Smaug and get the final pieces of a complete Tolkien LEGO collection :)

awesome packaging though, and I love the lack of logic behind LotR characters fighting the Goblin King!

and don't forget that sweet Eye of Sauron piece!

believe you just said exactly what I've been thinking about the whole thing for a while now. cheers.

Amazing to me that the Pirate Ambush set is still full price at my local TRU...and they have five of them on the shelf. Otherwise a few Council of Elrond sets are the only other remaining LotR sets I've seen on the shelves around here in a while.

guess you missed my post just above yours. Seems this isn't just one location :(

Wow, so I was just at Target and saw they have already put Hobbit Wave 3 sets on clearance. Of course they only ever had WKB and the Lake Town sets so they weren't that invested in this wave, but it seems very hasty considering the movie was released like two weeks ago. Apparently they had to make room for the new Chima sets since these were taking the entire section of shelf space where they'd crammed the 2 Hobbit sets. Makes me sad, and I'm thinking I might need to pull the trigger on Lonely Mountain soon...

Should come as no surprise, but I liked the film. Possibly because I went into it knowing what to expect. I did feel like the film started off very powerfully and didn't reach much of a crescendo after that. I mean, there was definitely an overall plot arc, but that Galadriel v.Sauron scene early on was one of the coolest sequences from any of the Middle Earth films. Gave me chills and made my eyes water. I probably would have moved that further back into the film a bit, but I'm not going to complain because I absolutely loved the whole Council v. Dol Guldur plot.

haha man, either you're really bad at this debate thing or you were being intentionally ridiculous. Moving on.

I find it hilarious that I specifically stated I wasn't trying to start a debate, and admitted that the Balrog would win, yet reading these responses you'd think otherwise. But to respond to a few posts...This isn't Pokemon. The "elemental upper hand" isn't an instant trump card in Tolkien lore. Treebeard isn't even a tree, nor is he simply a "wood elemental" that immediately wilts in the presence of fire. Logically it'd be a weakness, but if you know anything about how revered and powerful he is the idea that a Balrog would just trample over him without effort because he is fire lol, is absurd. There are examples of powerful elves killing Balrogs, and I'm unaware of anywhere it mentioning that elves used to have fire-proof skin, but more importantly this gives precedence to the fact that Maiar can be defeated by lesser beings. If you believe Balrog wins simply because fire>wood, you are ignorant about the combat dynamics in Tolkien's lore. Treebeard is the oldest living creature in Middle Earth, and Tolkien puts as much emphasis on willpower and experience as anything else. That's the only point I'm making here.

not trying to start a nerd debate here, but I don't agree with that. A Balrog would probably win in the end, yeah, but Treebeard is massively old and powerful; doubt he'd cave instantly.

probably the best sentence I'll read today haha is the crest on Bombur's helmet a pig?