WesternOutlaw Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 Clop...Clop...Clip...Clop... On a barren tan baseplate, cowboy Dusty Miller rides into Legorado on a brown horse with a one-piece black Lego sadle. As Dusty wipes the dust from his brow with a red bandana, he sees the small western town with not too much excitement. There's a General Store to do some trading, a Bank to cash in his single gold nugget, and a Sheriff's Office that he'd rather not visit. Fort Legorado stands in the sunset with a tired Union Army with not much to protect. Oh, not to forget old Crandall Mine as the one hideout where the outlaws pretend to hide, and the sheriff pretends to find them. Yes, the water in old Legorado has pretty much dried up with not much Wild West action left to pursue. Many of you would agree that the WW theme was a great collection of sets that Lego should have continued. Had they done so (or if the future holds more WW sets), what would you add to Legorado? - A saloon perhaps? - a chapel? What else? Help Dusty out by adding some fun to the old Wild West theme. OK, I'll keep a list: Western Town Armory/Gun Shop Blacksmith Bordello Cemetery Chapel Farmhouse Gallows Hotel Pony Express/Post Office Ranch Saloon Schoolhouse Snake Oil Wagon Stage Coach Trading Post Ghost Town Union Army Frontier Outpost Gold Wagon Train Sub-Theme Bridge Cattle Car Freight Car/Wagon Steam Engine Pullman Train Coach Train Station Water Tower Windmill Western Mountains/Scenery Ambush Site Canyon Pass Cliff Dwellings / Indian Hideout Expanded Mine Mining Scene - accessories and figs Quicksand Scene Tall Thin Rocks River Sub-Theme Riverboat/Paddle Wheel Trapper/River Scene Mexican Village Sub-Theme Cantina Hacienda Spanish Fort Spanish Mission Zorro License New Animals Buffalo Cow Mule Vulture New Figs/Elements Apache Indians Bartender Cactus Chinese Railroad Workers Doctor Grave Digger Mexican Bandit (with sombrero) Mexican Soldier Minister/Reverend Pioneer Prospector w/Mule Riverboat Captain Snake Oil Salesman Trapper (with racoon/Davy Crockett hat with tail) Quote
Athos Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 Saloon and chapel would be nice. A ranch would be too and a hotel and a blacksmith and an armory. Steve Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted November 8, 2006 Author Posted November 8, 2006 Dusty's first stop is at the Glitter Gulch Saloon. What a great place for him to swallow a shot of whiskey to wet his dry mouth! Big Al the bartender tells him where he can get a room, "McCormick's Bed-N-Breakfast", I think they call it, "right down the road next to the Bit and Bridle Blacksmith Shop". The bartender tells Dusty that he might also check out McAlister's Armory where he can get that rust from his gun cleaned. Dusty is starting to feel that Legorado isn't the small town he thought it was. Meanwhile, Blackboot Thomas and his gang of outlaws are plotting a wagon heist at Silverton Ranch, a hideout unknown to Sheriff McMillon. Quote
Governor Mister Phes Posted November 8, 2006 Governor Posted November 8, 2006 Definitely a brothel for the hard working but lonely outlaws... Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted November 8, 2006 Author Posted November 8, 2006 On his way to the Bed N Breakfast, Dusty can't help but to be steered toward a rather fancy two-story building with a large purple sign reading, The Blazing Bordello. A finely dressed woman stands on the porch with a long feathery scarf beconning an eager Dusty into her house... *wub* Rev. Olin Maynard and his congregation have tried to put an end to what they call "that sinfull house of ill-repute", but many of the unhappy husbands in the town would much rather visit the Bordello than Reverend Maynard's chapel. Quote
Brick Miner Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 well... this is pretty much the story of my MOCing :-D :-D :-D i have outlined a couple "sets" that i need to fill my western world. this is the order i plan to finish them... 1) Gunslingers Saloon 6758 2) Ghost Town's Haunted Pass 6776 3) Legorego Train Station 6789 (including a 6 car train) 4) Boulder Passage 6784 (this is a hollowed out canyon that the steam train passes through) (this is also a companion set to 6789)(and serves as the bandit's version of a train set ;-) ) 5) Water Tower Terror 6738 (return to Ghost Town) 6) Creepy Creature Camp 6714 (another Ghost Town set) 7) Frontier Outpost 6742 (a calvary lookout tower to accompany fort LEGOredo) 8) Trading Post 6742 (a meeting place where calvary, cowboys, and indians meet to do business)(this will be a companion set to 6741, and resemble a western fort) 9) Stage Coach Hold Up 6728 (also includes a robbing bandit to add some playability to an otherwise boring set ;-) ) 10) Precarious Bridge 6749 (last in the Ghost Town series) -------------------------------------------------- those are the solid ideas i have come up with... but there are a lot of possibilities, i just don't see LEGO doing some of them... like a cemetery or chapel because they are to religious specific. a pony express would be very cool... complete with robbers attempting to halt delivery of there warrants to other towns. i wish i could find a LEGOesque way of doing saddle bags |-/ then i would just MOC the idea myself :-D i would also (similar to castle fans) love to see some normal folk. pioneers would be great to fill LEGOredo and make the town seem more happening... a bonnet mold would be a good start in that department. -------------------------------------------------- hopefully Dusty has a long venture ahead !!! - BrickMiner Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted November 8, 2006 Author Posted November 8, 2006 Blackboot Thomas and his gang ride out to meet the Wells Fargo Stage Coach as they have an "inside tip" as to what time the bank loot will arrive in Legorado. They make it through Canyon Pass only minutes before a steaming Western Train passes through the canyon on its way to Legorado. Their plan is to hold up the coach with a few well-placed sticks of dynamite. This coach will have two month's worth of Union payroll that includes bonuses! After the robbery, the outlaws will ride to the Trading Post to purchase the provisions they need to make it to the Bridge South of the border. Lucky for the Union army; however, a Frontier Outpost stands far to the South and has a few troops that may thwart the outlaws's plan. Tumbleweeds roll through Legorado as a large thirsty Steam Engine pulls into Legorado Train Station next to an awaiting Water Tower. A drunken Dusty Miller leaves the brothel laughing histerically about a story one of the ladies told him. "Haunted Pass, Creepy Creature Camp, Water Tower Terror!", Dusty yells, that's just folklore and fairy tales"! Just then a cold and creeping wind blows through Legorado... :'-( Lucky for Dusty, it passes quickly... :-) Quote
Brick Miner Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 :-D :-D :-D love it !!! be sure to add "pony express/post office" to your master list ;-) - BrickMiner Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted November 8, 2006 Author Posted November 8, 2006 Telegraph for Sheriff McMillon: Blackboot Thomas has escaped from the Austin Jail STOP He has partnered with Ringo Bandito, Pistol Preston, and Dice R. Loaded STOP All are wanted men! STOP Sheriff Austin believes that he may find his way to Legorado STOP Union Payroll will be delivered November 8 STOP Wells Fargo Coach #4 STOP It's important that you stop Blackboot Thomas and his gang STOP Good Luck! STOP Please deliver urgently by way of Pony Express STOP Judge Gatling Texas Territory Quote
Norro Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 A trapper (and small river/scenery) would be a nice little set, and provide skins for the trading post. After that a cattle drive and ranch would be cool... God Bless, Nathan Quote
oo7 Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 I've always thought it would be cool and I have considered making one before and I will problably make one sometime in the future... A Western themed Paddle Steamer a.k.a. Riverboat! Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted November 9, 2006 Author Posted November 9, 2006 Bang! A dynamite stick blows the door off the stage coach. Shots are fired from inside the wagon! Ringo throws another stick. Bang! This one stops the wagon. "This is a hold up"! Blackboot Thomas tells the Stage Coach driver, "get off the wagon and don't be think'n 'bout doing anything stupid". Ringo grabs the rifleman inside the coach and ties his hands behind his back. In the Stage Coach is a large black lockbox. Blackboot Thomas warns, "now open the lockbox, or we're gonna tie you to the horses and let them drag you a mile or two before they get to Legorado. The Stage Coach driver pulls out a key from his shirt pocket. "You no good outlaws won't get away with this. Every Union soldier in miles from here will be looking for you", he responds as he pops open the lock. Blackboot Thomas and his gang take the loot and throw it in their saddle bags. "Now Get!", Blackboot Thomas yells as he fires shots into the air. Four horses pulling the coach take off fast leaving both the driver and the rifleman standing in the dust! The outlaws ride away toward the Trading Post to the west. The next day, the outlaws make it to the Trading Post somewhere along the Colorado River. Fur Trappers peddle their skins, furs, pelts, and other goods. The outlaws buy their needed provisions for an arduous journey across the desert. As Ringo ties the final provisions to the horses, Blackboot Thomas begins talking with Dice. "What do you reck'n you'll do with your share of the loot"? he asks. Dice responds, "I've always wanted to take a ride down the Mississippi on a Riverboat to New Orleans - and I plan to invest some of my money in a few games of cards. After I double my money, I may just find my way back to Mexico to open up a little Cantina. Rosa's I'll call it, Rosa's Cantina". Quote
bruce n h Posted November 9, 2006 Posted November 9, 2006 Hey, I've said this before, so if you've read a similar post by me, please disregard. IMO, the WW theme needed to go at least one more year, with a focus on civilian life. One new element would be needed for these sets - a molded cow. This could be a body like the minifig horse but with a different head, preferably with a clip so you could add the bull horns on some cows. A cow would be useful in other themes as well (castle, town, train), so it would be easy to justify the expense of a new mold, which is always TLC's argument why they won't produce this or that desired piece (and, heck, they made the molded Kaadu for one (!) set, a totally worthless element otherwise). Anyway: Small set: Cattle rustlers - includes sheriff, bandit, 2 cows, some bushes or something, a set along the lines of Sheriff's Showdown Next set: Pioneers - includes a covered wagon along the lines of the Weapons Wagon, a cow, and a family (Ma, Pa, and a kid or two) Medium sets, ranging in the US$20-40 range Farmstead - this one on a baseplate with a small house and/or barn, field, oxen (cow+horns) and plow, the family again Saloon - okay, perhaps LEGO wouldn't sell an actual saloon set, but a set that we would all recognize as the saloon. Includes some townspeople. Nathan wells has a great MOC along these lines. One-room-schoolhouse/church - again, LEGO might not want to sell a church set, but these little towns generally had a building that served as both church on Sunday and school during the week (see, for instance, episodes of Little House on the Prairie) Large set - Train station - this would include the station with an old style train, including a cattle car with a couple more cows. As with the Harry Potter Hogwarts Express, there could be a cheaper version and a motorized version. For "action" there could be train robbers. The western train could actually be a whole sub-line, with seperate sets for the station and various train cars so you could build smaller or larger trains, as in the My Own Train series. The above doesn't have any Native American sets. Unfortunately, as LEGO envisioned that half of the WW line there wasn't much else for them to do - basically smaller and larger villages with 1 or 2 or 3 teepees with slightly different settings. It would be neat if they would be a little more historically accurate and depict different tribes in addition to the sort of generic plains Indians they had. This website isn't so great but it does illustrate the wide variety of building styles of Native Americans from different areas. A cliff dwelling would certainly be a neat set, IMO (I've tried my hand at MOCing this). Of course different building styles should also come with different styles of dress. A nice small set would be a buffalo hunt. I have a MOC here along those lines - they could do a brick-built-buffalo as in my MOC or do a molded beast. Bruce Quote
Brick Miner Posted November 9, 2006 Posted November 9, 2006 Large set - Train station - this would include the station with an old style train, including a cattle car with a couple more cows. As with the Harry Potter Hogwarts Express, there could be a cheaper version and a motorized version. For "action" there could be train robbers.The western train could actually be a whole sub-line, with seperate sets for the station and various train cars so you could build smaller or larger trains, as in the My Own Train series. yes, this is one idea i wanted to explore in my MOC aswell... an all-new sub-theme to WW based on 1800's trains, complete with its own small, medium, and large sets. a mining car with mine would also fit well.actually, in reguards to LEGO revisiting the WW theme... this would be an excellent approach. because it really wouldn't have to relate much to WW, more just focused on 1800's trains, with a few WW elements. this would be a great return to the WW for LEGO. this line could be a sub-theme of train rather than WW, i see that as a more probable option for LEGO. The above doesn't have any Native American sets. Unfortunately, as LEGO envisioned that half of the WW line there wasn't much else for them to do - basically smaller and larger villages with 1 or 2 or 3 teepees with slightly different settings.i agree... they really killed a lot of possiblities here... the trading post is about the only thing i could think of yet to explore.A nice small set would be a buffalo hunt. I have a MOC here along those lines - they could do a brick-built-buffalo as in my MOC or do a molded beast.i would so much rather have a buffalo over a cow ;-) it would really be a neat mold. buffalo are beautiful creatures.- BrickMiner Quote
Athos Posted November 9, 2006 Posted November 9, 2006 What about some kind of hacienda? And a Spanish mission? Maybe we could have a Zorro theme? Steve Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted November 10, 2006 Author Posted November 10, 2006 Sheriff McMillon and his posse that includes Dusty Miller find the empty stagecoach along the western trail. "Wells Fargo Stage Coach #4", the Sheriff reads as he realizes that they did not make it in time. A large empty lockbox rests on the seat cusion. "They're probably 1-2 days ahead of us", Dusty says, "but we may still be able to catch them. They're probably on their way to Mexico by way of the western trail. They'll most likely need to make it to the Colorado Trading Post for provisions first . If we head southwest, we can beat them off at Carson Bridge". The posse rides off. (Great suggestions everyone. I love the idea of a Mexican Village (with a cantina, hacienda, and Spanish Mission). Great sub-theme idea! Our outlaws may find their way to Mexico soon). Also: I am keeping a comprehensive list of the ideas in the first message and have added a few myself. Quote
bruce n h Posted November 10, 2006 Posted November 10, 2006 i would so much rather have a buffalo over a cow My thinking on the cow is that it would be very useful across several themes. I'm sure trainheads would love to have a bunch of cows to populate fields their trains go past. As a castle guy I'd love to have some more animal options. Also, a farm theme would be a great town sub-theme. What about some kind of hacienda? And a Spanish mission? Maybe we could have a Zorro theme? That would be definitely cool. Living in southern California for several years I grew to really like the mission-style architecture. Is Zorro in the public domain, or does someone own the Zorro license? You've seen Jon Furman's Zorro MOC, right? Bruce Quote
Brick Miner Posted November 10, 2006 Posted November 10, 2006 Also: I am keeping a comprehensive list of the ideas in the first message and have added a few myself.i think pioneers (including a new bonnet piece) are one of the biggest elements to old west culture... they should definitely be added to your minifigures list ;-) plus they would give us some female options *sweet* - BrickMiner Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted November 12, 2006 Author Posted November 12, 2006 Once again, Sheriff McMillon and his posse are a few hours too late. Blackboot Thomas and his gang have arrived at Carson Bridge. But this time, a small band of three Union soldiers from the Frontier Outpost are waiting on the bridge with rifles at hand. Shots are fired! Bang! Pow! "Take cover boys" Blackboot yells! "shoot when they reload their rifles"! Suddenly, a cannon blast fires into the air! Bang! Ringo takes a hit. An angry Blackboot and Dice make a last running strike over the bridge shooting their pistols. One of the soldiers is hit, then the other. Just nicking the arm of the remaining soldier, Blackboot and Dice make it over the bridge. The final soldier decides not to follow, but rather get a message to the Outpost that two of the outlaws made it past the border. Hours later, Sheriff McMillon, Dusty, and the rest of the posse arrive at the Frontier Outpost to discover the news. They discuss the possibility of entering Mexico to bring back the two outlaws and the Union payroll. Unfortunately, Sheriff McMillon and the posse decide to turn back. But a rather stubborn Dusty Miller decides that a recent reward for the two outlaws ($500) is worth going to Mexico. Dusty puts on his hat and says goodbye to the others as he rides south toward Carson Bridge. Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted November 15, 2006 Author Posted November 15, 2006 Any more suggestions for the WW theme? The Tail of Dusty Miller can't end just yet... Quote
Brick Miner Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 quicksand would be a really cool set... but to make it functional seems impossible in minifig scale :-/ - BrickMiner Quote
Norro Posted November 15, 2006 Posted November 15, 2006 I would love to see those distinctive tall thin rock in a massive tan scenery set it could include an ambush site and a mine entrance for playability... but would mostly remain an excuse for a giant tan bonanza. God Bless, Nathan Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted November 20, 2006 Author Posted November 20, 2006 A happy Blackboot Thomas and Dice cross Carson Bridge and make it to the other side of the Rio Grande. "Hurray! we made it to Mexico", Blackboot yells. Dice gets on all fours and kisses the dirt. The two outlaws continue along a dusty trail as they arrive in Haciendo, a small Mexican mission town. They begin looking for a cantina until they find La Podrido Sitio, known to the locals as "the bad place". They enter the bar to discover a rather large Mexican cantina filled with rough looking characters, only to make their way to a fat bartender who seems to be called Gordo. They order two whiskeys when a fight in the corner breaks out. Chairs begin flying until a loud shot is fired! It was the bartender who shot his double barreled shot gun that he pulled from behind the bar. "Chanco, Pig"! he yells while two men carry the looser out of the bar. Dice looks at Blackboot only to say, "this is my kinda place"! Quote
Athos Posted November 20, 2006 Posted November 20, 2006 Is Zorro in the public domain, or does someone own the Zorro license? It looks like he was invented in the 1920s, so that means he is probably not in the public domain (I think its life of the author, plus 70 years, if I recall my copyright law correctly, which is unlikely). Though, I wonder what the status of the copyright is... My thinking on the cow is that it would be very useful across several themes. That was my thinking as well. My biggest disappointment with the Wild West line is no cows. For cryin' out loud, its cowboys after all! Steve Quote
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