oo7 Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 This picture is from the Brickshelf folder of the guy who made that huge Orthanc in the "Most Popular" section of Brickshelf. It looks like he "cheated" with those round castle walls but how exacty did he manage this? And he also has some nice Egypt, Western and Castle MOC displays in his folder. Quote
ApophisV Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 His "cheat" was simply to bend the wall. If you build a huge wall structure with 1x2 bricks you'll notice that the wall can be bend slightly because there are very tiny gaps between the surfaces of the bricks... Quote
xenologer Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 Plastic is flexible. Additionally, no mould (especially now that they switched to cheap plastic) :-( is ever perfect. There is a built-in 'manufacturing tolerance' so if you stay within that small margin... you can do gradual bends in the wall... Quote
Norro Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 The real challenge here is connecting the wall or adding walkways... the bending happens easily enough... God Bless, Nathan Quote
Sir Dillon Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 Yup, if you try to build a wall of 2x2s, you can see that the can bend a small amount. Quote
Starwars4J Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 This technique is used a lot in building space MOCs, I just find it interesting that he fit an arch in there! Quote
Commander Wolf Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 If you use 1x3's and insert 1x1 rounds between them, it will bend even further. Personally I think the rounds also add texture to a wall. Quote
ImperialJohn Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 If you use 1x3's and insert 1x1 rounds between them, it will bend even further. Like in this picture Quote
Hobbes Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 I just find it interesting that he fit an arch in there! That's because the wall isn't bent where the arch is ;-) I personally like a bent castle wall without 1x1 round bricks better. The round bricks do add structure to a wall, that's true, but on a castle wall they'd look out of place IMHO. This guy's exhibition pictures are from the exhibition I mentioned here, unfortunately I couldn't make it there to take more pics. Quote
JINZONINGEN73 Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 At first I thought he'd merely built onto some curved railroad tracks. :-D But it's too wide for that. Brick Miner Posted Today, 12:48 AM oh.gif those techniques make me sick.gif It did produce a pretty sexy result though. Can't deny that. Quote
Starwars4J Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 That's because the wall isn't bent where the arch is ;-) But if you look, there is a constant curve Quote
Hobbes Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 But if you look, there is a constant curve Ah, you mean the small arch. Well, that arch brick "stands out" a little. The wall is bent, the arch brick, of course, isn't. I guess that brick is the longest you could fit in that "radius". It's definitely an "illegal building technique", though ;-) Quote
WesternOutlaw Posted October 14, 2006 Posted October 14, 2006 I find the term "illegal building technique" pretty silly. No one tells me how to build! I love the result of this building technique. I never knew you could bend 1x2s to arrive at this result. Great idea! I will definately try it. I would imagine that it takes a pretty wide curve though to get a curve you could attach to a square structure. Quote
Hobbes Posted October 14, 2006 Posted October 14, 2006 I find the term "illegal building technique" pretty silly. No one tells me how to build! I'm with you :-) I love the result of this building technique. I never knew you could bend 1x2s to arrive at this result. Great idea! I didn't know, either, and as I said, for castle walls I like this technique better than the 1x1 round bricks. I would imagine that it takes a pretty wide curve though to get a curve you could attach to a square structure. I think so, too. On the other hand it doesn't look that wide on the picture... Quote
oo7 Posted October 14, 2006 Author Posted October 14, 2006 I didn't know, either, and as I said, for castle walls I like this technique better than the 1x1 round bricks. Same here, I didn't ever think that you could curve a wall of small bricks like that, but now that I do it makes sense. ;-) But that was only part of the question, I still don't exactly know how he conected it to the baseplate or made the curved walkway. Quote
Sir Dillon Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 I think so, too. On the other hand it doesn't look that wide on the picture... I was thinking that too... I experimented with it a little, and I couldn't get my wall to bend as much as it looks like his does. The most I could get mine to bend was about this much: http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/Cyin/Odd/walltest02.jpg (That isn't my picture, BTW.) Of course, I didn't bend mine very hard, because I didn't want to damage the pieces. I wonder how he got his to bend that much... or maybe it just looks more bent then it is... :-/ Quote
JINZONINGEN73 Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 I'm with you :-) Yeah, some make sense, to avoid damage, trapped Technic axles or lack of structural integrity. But if it doesn't fall under those categories, bite me? lol Quote
Norro Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 I wonder how he got his to bend that much... or maybe it just looks more bent then it is... :-/ This was discussed on CC a while ago in connection with an amazing town hall MOC... JoJo said the builder (from his LUG) used a lot of stress and the bricks were permanently damaged... God Bless, Nathan Quote
Mr. Lego-builder Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 Even though I am more of a City person, this technique fails to amaze me every time. The curve on that model is very impressive. Here's what I think: If you see view it carefully, you can see that the arch is more of an opticle illusion, being so well integrated into the curved wall. Also, the pieces connecting it to the rest of the wall is a 1X3 brick. I wonder if that makes a difference? 8-| Second, he might have used an underlying techique by securing each end by elastic, or some sort od object that creates resistance and therefore, causing it to bend at such a degree. Or on each brick he added, he would bend it a little. In the end this might have caused it to bend more than instead of building it first then bending it after the whole wall was done... Personally, I have tried the same technique, but with 1x2 plates (not bricks) and I got it to curve almost to the extent shown in this wall, but not quit, when I was going for more of a rounded look to add to one of my City's buildings. Quote
xenologer Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 I find the term "illegal building technique" pretty silly. I prefer the term 'Out of System' its a more politically correct way of saying it. Quote
Norro Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 [sNIP] its a more politically correct way of saying it. Not that anyone wants that... X-D ;-) God Bless, Nathan Quote
Brick Miner Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 I prefer the term 'Out of System' its a more politically correct way of saying it."Out of System" sounds really really unappealing... so, i'll have to use that terminology from now on ;-) - BrickMiner Quote
Norro Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 I do love 'out of system' though... Thanks much! God Bless, Nathan Quote
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