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7710 with Red and Black motor

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I have always snubbed the 7710 set because it is not motorized, but after seeing the various models made by @Paperinik77pk during these days I'm evaluating the idea of expanding my collection of 12 volts by purchasing this set and power it immediately! :sweet:

The doubt, however, is: Red engine or Black engine? :look:

The red engine costs a fortune but the black engine makes the locomotive too dark.

So I thought of replacing the black base with a red one and matching the black engine.

Which of the two versions do you prefer?

I put some photos of the renderings made today with the locomotives in comparison and the related convoys! :wink:

...ah I was forgetting ...I added the doors to the locomotive to make it a little more valuable, without them it reminded me of my very first (and needy :grin:) set 171.

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Hi there! :sweet:

Gooooood question!

It is all a matter of cost and look (plus originality of the set).

First thing, in 7710 instructions TLG shows the optional 7865 Motor, which was only in black. Therefore, also back in time, a 7710 could have been expanded only with that option. The path of perfect originality goes in this direction. But...

...Red Motor is the perfect choice for having a nice look and give some credit to this small locomotive. Plus, it's a German one, so red wheels and chassis are a perfect choice. Red motor is expensive, but will be more and more and more valuable in the future. The bad side is: a 7730/7750/7727 will be particularly sorry to see their motor on a 7710 ! Sincerely...who cares? :tongue:

Red or Black base...no doubt here, at least for me. Black one, otherwise the locomotive will resemble too much the 7810. But for the original sets I want a perfect original look, so it's a matter of personal taste.

Red or black cylinders? Black with black motor, black also with the red one. Big sister 7730 is teaching us this way! :laugh:

Doors or not - again a matter of taste - I prefer the original version without doors.

So , currently my 12v version has: black base, black buffers, red motor, working central 12v headlight and reproduction stickers. Same for the 4,5v version but in addition there's a blue battery car of the 7720 (optional at the time) and a 4,5v light brick :sweet:

One thing I would recommend you...build 2 more wagons - they are a nice addition!!!

Ciaaaao!

Davide

 

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Red base and black motor for me all days of week....

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Posted (edited)

Black base with black motor, even if it looks dark, it looks less German, as all the other steam 12V locomotives are. But if you really don't want the two same colors, I think that black base with red motor doesn't look bad either. I powered mine with a MOCed 4,5V tender (with set n°107), so it's also possible this way if you want something other (and cheaper) than a 12V motor.

Edit: 50th message in 8 years, that's definitely the speed of a 4,5V train!

Edited by Evans
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So ...thanks @Paperinik77pk  and @Selander for your view, I think that Davide has a true purist point of view (an I respect it), but giving up the red cylinders, the red base and the doors is a violence for me ... the red base, however, with a red engine would remind too much the 7715 and the 7727, locomotives that I already have (also with a tender in 7750 style)

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I think I will try the solution suggested by @Selander since I don't respect the original design so much ... if I have to make a bang I have to do it big! :devil_laugh::laugh:

Edited by LEGO Train 12 Volts

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8 minutes ago, Evans said:

I powered mine with a MOCed 4,5V tender (with set n°107), so it's also possible this way if you want something other (and cheaper) than a 12V motor.

Edit: 50th message in 8 years, that's definitely the speed of a 4,5V train!

Nice idea, I can use the 12 volts motor (part. X550a) and leave the locomotive with the original wheels ...however the piston rods cannot be used :sceptic:

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9 minutes ago, LEGO Train 12 Volts said:

piston rods cannot be used

There is still possibility to put 70's piston rods (like in set n°133), these are yellow, but it's better than nothing. I still need to find a pair for my 7710. :classic:

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36 minutes ago, LEGO Train 12 Volts said:

So ...thanks @Paperinik77pk  and @Selander for your view, I think that Davide has a true purist point of view (an I respect it), but giving up the red cylinders, the red base and the doors is a violence for me ... the red base, however, with a red engine would remind too much the 7715 and the 7727, locomotives that I already have (also with a tender in 7750 style)

I think I will try the solution suggested by @Selander since I don't respect the original design so much ... if I have to make a bang I have to do it big! :devil_laugh::laugh:

eeeeh yes :blush: , I admit it - on original sets I'm a bit too much rigid - that's why probably I'm so interested in  retro-Mocs - so I can do whatever I likeeee! Mwuhahahahhaah!!! (bad villain laugh) :devil::devil_laugh:

Go for the big-bang!!! At this point  three working headlights and tail lights are a mandatory requirement! :wub::wub::wub:

Ciao!

Davide

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5 hours ago, Evans said:

There is still possibility to put 70's piston rods (like in set n°133)

I've that set and is one of my favorite locomotives (with set 182) but those rods are too yellow and too weak for the gray era in my opinion.

4 hours ago, Paperinik77pk said:

Go for the big-bang!!! At this point  three working headlights and tail lights are a mandatory requirement! :wub::wub::wub:

Ciao!

Davide

Oh yes, I will use 5 warm leds (the doors are there also to cover wires of tail lights)! :wink:

I can't immagine one of my locomotive without lights! :laugh:

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Great job modifying 7710.  I used to enjoy pushing it around during breaks in writing lab reports.   :classic:

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14 hours ago, dr_spock said:

I used to enjoy pushing it around during breaks in writing lab reports.   :classic:

Oh yes, an excellent antistress! :laugh:

12 hours ago, Pdaitabird said:

That engine looks great with the lights and side rods! :thumbup:

The side rods do justice to this small locomotive! :wink:

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Posted (edited)

Those render pic.'s looks very nice.

The 7710 is most close to original with red 12v motor and without the doors :wink: . Yes I know, that costs twice of black one. And 2 extra wagons give the little train more 'body'. Were did you get those stickers? There are people who make reproductions, so close you can't see the difference with original.

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