Harry Potter 2020 - Rumors & Discussion

[BacktoBricks]

Just now, Legoman123 said:

So what are the two sets going to be? 

We don't know yet. We only know the set numbers and one is supposedly going to cost $99.99

[Tariq j]

The $100 set sounds interesting. Chamber of Secrets would be ideal. I wouldn’t mind seeing WWW though. 

[Micmac]

11 minutes ago, BacktoBricks said:

That's an interesting analysis. Whilst there was certainly a lot of wishlisting about it last year, it feels like the Durmstrang Ship has been largely forgotten about at the moment, probably largely because of the idea that the sets this year will focus on OOP or HBP. And you could well be right; I would say that the ship appears so briefly in the movie that you wouldn't think that Lego would turn it into a set, but the fact that they made the Beauxbaton carriage negates that argument. The only other thing is, I don't think there are enough vehicles to sustain the structure you've laid out so I suspect this year may be the one that breaks that mould and we don't get any 'vehicles' as such.

I totally agree that they are definitely running out of vehicles and I wonder if the owl set is them moving over from vehicle builds to creature builds. The fact that we are getting Privet Drive means that Lego is going to be peppering earlier movies into the perceived movie (OOP/HBP) release schedule. The only other vehicle I can think after the Drumstrang ship is Hagrid's motorbike and that would need scene elements as it would be very small set. It would however go with the Privet drive set coming out this year though so maybe if we don't get the ship maybe that could be the vehicle option this year. How they get the Hagrid figure on a motorbike will be interesting. 

[Huigberts Builds]

3 hours ago, Micmac said:

I totally agree that they are definitely running out of vehicles and I wonder if the owl set is them moving over from vehicle builds to creature builds. The fact that we are getting Privet Drive means that Lego is going to be peppering earlier movies into the perceived movie (OOP/HBP) release schedule. The only other vehicle I can think after the Drumstrang ship is Hagrid's motorbike and that would need scene elements as it would be very small set. It would however go with the Privet drive set coming out this year though so maybe if we don't get the ship maybe that could be the vehicle option this year. How they get the Hagrid figure on a motorbike will be interesting. 

There's also the 2 version of the Dursley's car, but they're unlikely to be made into sets. Than there's the Hogwarts Carriage from OotP (an open carriage, different from the COG carriage we received. The Gringots Vault Cart. The sleigh fudge uses in hogsmeade in poa (could come with a 3 broomsticks set). The inferi cave boat. And there are probably still more to come in the Fantastic Beasts movies. Plus the before mentioned Durmstrang Ship and Sirius his motorbike. That's at least 6 more sets with a vehicle (not counting Dursley's (which could kinda come in a zoo or privet drive re-release) and the fantastic beasts vehicles that are yet to come. I think there's still plenty of sets including vehicles to come. Especially considering Lego likes to recycle every few years.

[joeee]

Ah, it probably is the Durmstrang ship. Hope they make a mast with the Durmstrang symbol on it!

Interestingly, I am so excited for the Dursley house. I get this home-y feeling about building a small house at home in my warm bedroom. I know, I'm weird, but I am so excited!

[Micmac]

1 hour ago, Huigberts Builds said:

There's also the 2 version of the Dursley's car, but they're unlikely to be made into sets. Than there's the Hogwarts Carriage from OotP (an open carriage, different from the COG carriage we received. The Gringots Vault Cart. The sleigh fudge uses in hogsmeade in poa (could come with a 3 broomsticks set). The inferi cave boat. And there are probably still more to come in the Fantastic Beasts movies. Plus the before mentioned Durmstrang Ship and Sirius his motorbike. That's at least 6 more sets with a vehicle (not counting Dursley's (which could kinda come in a zoo or privet drive re-release) and the fantastic beasts vehicles that are yet to come. I think there's still plenty of sets including vehicles to come. Especially considering Lego likes to recycle every few years.

The whomping willow came with the car and Privet drive has the car too but I was mostly referring to how we have had four sets that were just vehicles. I think all of your suggestions would be part of a set and not the set themselves. The Durmstrang ship is really the only big vehicle left for them to make a stand alone set from. 

[DNSNVN01]

1 hour ago, Micmac said:

The whomping willow came with the car and Privet drive has the car too but I was mostly referring to how we have had four sets that were just vehicles. I think all of your suggestions would be part of a set and not the set themselves. The Durmstrang ship is really the only big vehicle left for them to make a stand alone set from. 

Personally, I think if they're going to make a durmstrang ship set for 100 they should include the second task as side builds. Given that it's still more important than the ship itself. One side build as the the pier where they jump off/spectate and another build for the victims to be chained too. We could then get karkaroff, harry shark krum Ron, Hermione merpeople grindylows, and unlikely but maybe a character like barty crouch sr, mad eye or neville. Or maybe even a typical durmstrang student as well. The durmstrang may not be a significant enough for people to buy it at 100

[Vindicare]

 

16 hours ago, AlbusPercivalWulfricBrian said:

I did not wanted to say that I wouldn’t love a grimmauld place set. I just don’t think it could be the rumored 99$ set, because they will likely make it as a really small set/advent calendar or like an exclusive set for collectors/die hard Harry Potter fans for at least 200$. I don’t believe it’s possible to make a statisfying set for less and I also don’t think they would make a playset for children for that price. - but in conclusion, all I wanted to say is that it’s more likely that the 99$ set is the burrow.

They could do Grimmauld Place similar to how they did 76108 Sanctum Sanctorum Showdown. It’s a good sized building in width, height, & depth. 5 minifigs, with one being a bigfig. They could replace that with two minifigs & that would give us a decent line up. 

[Huigberts Builds]

1 hour ago, Micmac said:

The whomping willow came with the car and Privet drive has the car too but I was mostly referring to how we have had four sets that were just vehicles. I think all of your suggestions would be part of a set and not the set themselves. The Durmstrang ship is really the only big vehicle left for them to make a stand alone set from. 

I guess that's true. Still the Hogwarts Express also had a station so only three really. Of course the Express was the main build and can stand on its own but so could the others, although in a considerably smaller set.

Like an open Hogwarts carriage could stand on it's own like the grindelwald one, however it might be a little bit too repetitve to get so soon after the other one. The vault car could also work on its own with some roller coaster track pieces, similar to what they did with the first Gringots set, but they might indeed rather combine it with a bigger bank build.

14 minutes ago, Vindicare said:

They could do Grimmauld Place similar to how they did 76108 Sanctum Sanctorum Showdown. It’s a good sized building in width, height, & depth. 5 minifigs, with one being a bigfig. They could replace that with two minifigs & that would give us a decent line up. 

The problem is that opposite to the Sanctum Sanctorum (with its special round roof window, the cafetaria under the apartment and the just overall very appealing building) Grimmauld Place is just a visually very boring and unappealing building. The only thing that makes it stand out is the appearing between buildings feature, which can't be left out of such a set. Problem is, that would raise the price far beyond $100,-.

Personally I think it's either WWW, which could work like the sanctum sanctorum, only the inside would be kinda dull, or more likely the Burrow.

Still has the price been confirmed? I know the set numbers have been, but I'm uncertain if the price was.

[lego_guyon02]

28 minutes ago, DNSNVN01 said:

Personally, I think if they're going to make a durmstrang ship set for 100 they should include the second task as side builds. Given that it's still more important than the ship itself. One side build as the the pier where they jump off/spectate and another build for the victims to be chained too. We could then get karkaroff, harry shark krum Ron, Hermione merpeople grindylows, and unlikely but maybe a character like barty crouch sr, mad eye or neville. Or maybe even a typical durmstrang student as well. The durmstrang may not be a significant enough for people to buy it at 100

I don't think lego will force the Durmstrang ship on customers so the Second Task is more likely to be a standalone set. Sure, us fans want both but there's a high chance generic customers may want one and not the other so combining them is far from ideal

[Roebuck]

9 hours ago, Micmac said:

So with two more sets coming in August one must be a vehicle and the other a scene set. If one of the sets is 100 could it possible be the Durmstrang ship. I can't imagine any other big vehicle. Maybe the ship comes with the second task and merpeople.

It it interesting, but people try to see patterns even if it are not any. So if they are following your pattern there must be a vehicle and a scene set, if there is no pattern they can be anything

29 minutes ago, Guyon2002 said:

I don't think lego will force the Durmstrang ship on customers so the Second Task is more likely to be a standalone set. Sure, us fans want both but there's a high chance generic customers may want one and not the other so combining them is far from ideal

I do not think they will combine those either. I just remember the last bulky Durmstrang ship so that is not high on my wish list, but a new one would probably look much better..

Trying to speculate a pattern of my own. If I remember correct Lego decided to make 20 HP sets in the beginning, so that is 5 sets per 2 movies. 2018 had 5 sets (+2FB), maybe they decided to skip FB in 2019 because of lower sales, no movie coming out etc. So 2019 gets its 5 sets, but also 2 extra in a later wave they where not planning to make in the beginning. Lego have from the start seen that the sets sell extremely well so now they have had time to adjust , so in 2020 we get the 5 sets that where planned. In addition we also get privet drive a set they where not planning originally to make from film 1-2 and a Hedwig to try and expand the line up of sets..
I know it is a messy pattern, but it would be interesting to know which 20 sets they decided to make in the beginning, not that it matters much anymore since we get additional sets every year because of the good sales.. COS was obviously a set they decided to skip since they put the basilisk in the GH set, but now most bets are off so it is definitely back on the table with the rest of the sets they where skipping in the beginning 
 

[Mariella]

9 hours ago, Micmac said:

I totally agree that they are definitely running out of vehicles and I wonder if the owl set is them moving over from vehicle builds to creature builds. The fact that we are getting Privet Drive means that Lego is going to be peppering earlier movies into the perceived movie (OOP/HBP) release schedule. The only other vehicle I can think after the Drumstrang ship is Hagrid's motorbike and that would need scene elements as it would be very small set. It would however go with the Privet drive set coming out this year though so maybe if we don't get the ship maybe that could be the vehicle option this year. How they get the Hagrid figure on a motorbike will be interesting. 

I mean, Hedwig sort of is a vehicle, or wizarding transportation if you will - just not for people but for letters.

[Antonin Dulohov]

I really hope that LEGO don’t do the Durmstrang ship again - I think the 4768 set from 2005 is just superb and is unlikely to be bettered! 

Edited February 10, 2020 by Antonin Dulohov

[Seaber]

The Lord of the Rings had the Corsair Ship to appeal to Pirate theme fans, even though it plays a very minor role in the Theatrical Release, and not too big a role in the Extended. The Durmstrang Ship could fulfill a similar role in Harry Potter, as well as being one of the few vehicles. 

 

The only other transport I can think of that hasn't been mentioned so far is the Ukrainian Ironbelly from Deathly Hallows. 

[Balrogofmorgoth]

As cool as the previous Durmstrang Ship was, I actually think there’s room for a lot of improvement. The set is from 2005 for crying out loud, it can definitely be improved

[Bugbot20082]

I agree, a ‘pirate ship’, tied to a hot-selling licensed theme is not something Lego would likely pass on, and it would be the natural way to get an updated Igor and Krum in their ‘arrival’ outfits (new hat mould?); very complimentary to the carriage set we have from last year.

As a potentially large build, with a budget for 6+ Figures, I think it would be neat if they added in the less important Lake Task figures, and maybe Barty Crouch Sr.

To prevent two versions of Krum in one set his shark-head version along with Harry would be in a much smaller set (a remake of the original) released at the same time.

This way if you get both sets you complete your collection of 2nd Task champions, and maybe get an extra mer-person, and you spent most of your money on a big impressive ship rather than lots of mossy ruins.

Edited February 10, 2020 by Bugbot20082

[Tariq j]

With many new techniques and parts having come out since in 2005 I think there’s a definitely room for improvement. Plus if we can get the carriage (which was an awesome set) - why not this?

For a Second Task set I could see a small pontoon being made. Maybe with a judging booth as well. They could also have a printed 1x1 circle tile to represent the Gillyweed. 

A Gringotts Vault Car could be a very interesting set. It could be a fully fledged ride like the Temple of Doom set or a slightly smaller scale like the original.

[wooster]

6 hours ago, Antonin Dulohov said:

I really hope that LEGO don’t do the Durmstrang ship again - I think the 4768 set from 2005 is just superb and is unlikely to be bettered! 

To each his/her own.  But I think this 2005 ship is lacking, and woefully underbuilt.  I would like a new ship on the size and scale of the Brick Bounty (70413).  

[RandomSniper109]

8 hours ago, Huigberts Builds said:

I guess that's true. Still the Hogwarts Express also had a station so only three really. Of course the Express was the main build and can stand on its own but so could the others, although in a considerably smaller set.

Like an open Hogwarts carriage could stand on it's own like the grindelwald one, however it might be a little bit too repetitve to get so soon after the other one. The vault car could also work on its own with some roller coaster track pieces, similar to what they did with the first Gringots set, but they might indeed rather combine it with a bigger bank build.

The problem is that opposite to the Sanctum Sanctorum (with its special round roof window, the cafetaria under the apartment and the just overall very appealing building) Grimmauld Place is just a visually very boring and unappealing building. The only thing that makes it stand out is the appearing between buildings feature, which can't be left out of such a set. Problem is, that would raise the price far beyond $100,-.

Personally I think it's either WWW, which could work like the sanctum sanctorum, only the inside would be kinda dull, or more likely the Burrow.

Still has the price been confirmed? I know the set numbers have been, but I'm uncertain if the price was.

The sanctum was 2 buildings so they could have 1 building at the back (12) and then half of 11 and half of 13 (wouldn’t have to be filled or have any interior) that is on a technic rail that can just slide to the side

[Ultron]

Idk if Im just excited, but it seems that the theme is doing well. Third consistent wave in a row with a good amount of sets. Hoping the quality remains great too 

[BacktoBricks]

24 minutes ago, Ultron said:

Idk if Im just excited, but it seems that the theme is doing well. Third consistent wave in a row with a good amount of sets. Hoping the quality remains great too 

I think that's undeniable and like you I hope it continues. I suspect the designers are having a great time too. Can you imagine being a Lego designer on this theme? Not only can you build and design Lego really well, but you're probably a big HP fan and you get to design the sets with what seems like a fairly healthy budget and freedom. Only downside is, you know exactly what's coming.

[Bugbot20082]

If they eventually do a Lake-Task Set I hope it comes with a pack of the new sealife decorations from the friends theme (49595), perhaps in a new colour such as dark orange or tan 

Edited February 10, 2020 by Bugbot20082

[Seaber]

9 hours ago, Antonin Dulohov said:

I really hope that LEGO don’t do the Durmstrang ship again - I think the 4768 set from 2005 is just superb and is unlikely to be bettered! 

It was good for the time, but comparing it to the source material now you can see what it lacks - sails and those four handsome domes around the cabin to name two obvious ones, but the shape overall could be improved a lot. 

 

It's still a great set though! 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/102537907@N03/10198628956

[lego_guyon02]

9 hours ago, Antonin Dulohov said:

I really hope that LEGO don’t do the Durmstrang ship again - I think the 4768 set from 2005 is just superb and is unlikely to be bettered! 

Not even one small part of the boat looks good in comparison to today's standars. Especially looking at the sourcematerial this old set is really outdated. It looked fine for 2005 but we're ready for a new, more detailed version

[dvt]

9 hours ago, Antonin Dulohov said:

I really hope that LEGO don’t do the Durmstrang ship again - I think the 4768 set from 2005 is just superb and is unlikely to be bettered! 

15 yrs is a long time in LEGO time.  Builds have gotten so much more detailed in the last 5 years, let alone 15.  The ship from concept art, actual films, as well as the latest book that was put out (which has some awesome art all around) would provide a much better direction than what I view as a fairly cartoony and simple set that LEGO created.  it does align with the overall vibe of the previous release, but I would expect something a lot more updated for the current wave and greatly look forward to it if it happens.