LEGO Star Wars 2015 Pictures and Rumors

[Kim-Kwang-Seok]

By the way it'd be very interessting to see how much percent of the actual sales come from "real collectors" - like us. Why should the Lego company care that much about all these details & high quality standards, if not for us?

About Captain Phasma

It's quite possible Lego didn't work with the latest concept art. That happens from time to time cause they have to start designing & producing much erlier. This could also effect the spacecrafts.

What bothers me a lot (altough I was expecting it) is the black head

I'd have bought the Set including Phasma just to get the headpice

[Darth Malgus]

Lego try to balance both sides of the equation AFOL & kids. Can't be easy to grt that much detail in a minifig all the time.

[LL924]

Regarding BB-8, the posted picture appears to show the body of the droid "blurred". Is this meant to represent motion (i.e. that the figure will have a rolling base)? Or perhaps this was done just to keep some of the pieces used and the exact design under wraps for a bit longer?

[weasel47]

Regarding BB-8, the posted picture appears to show the body of the droid "blurred". Is this meant to represent motion (i.e. that the figure will have a rolling base)? Or perhaps this was done just to keep some of the pieces used and the exact design under wraps for a bit longer?

My guess is that it's neither. LEGO enhances images all the time to imply motion and energy (such as glowing light sabers). I think it's meant to represent motion but not meant to indicate that the figure actually rolls.

[Darth_Brick360]

well to begin with the helmet mold is inaccurate. Wich is understandable to an extent BUT on top of that lego has added some inaccurate print.

Then thers the lack of groin plate wich would really set her apart from being just a silver stormtrooper clone.

And the selection of what to print on the legs is absurd

I did not notice the inaccurate print, but I am okay with the helmet. Thanks for pointing those mistakes out to me.

the detail isn't all captured, and creates a nice, Lego feel to it.

I totally agree. Although, I would argue that some of the MCU minifigures are too detailed, but that doesn't belong here.

Edited June 22, 2015 by Darth_Brick360

[Jacob_9821]

By the way it'd be very interessting to see how much percent of the actual sales come from "real collectors" - like us. Why should the Lego company care that much about all these details & high quality standards, if not for us?

Well, their motto is, "Only the best is good enough". Their quality hasn't faltered because if it did, LEGO wouldn't be reputable as a quality company.

Anyway, that Phasma looks quite good except for one thing. The helmet has a strange line going across the chin area. I have no clue why it's there and from what we've seen of that character, that isn't on the helmet. Looks like I'll be making a modification to her.

[Zodack]

What bothers me a lot (altough I was expecting it) is the black head

I'd have bought the Set including Phasma just to get the headpice

I'm fairly sure it has been said before (and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong), but as leaks of this kind come from a factory they are often incomplete so in order to display them they leaker uses whatever means they have available. Hence the solid black cape and black head. Knowing LEGO they are probably stand-ins for the real thing that we will see in September.

[NNOPMOC]

A great many people seem to be assuming that the figure you saw (wich we now cannot see so cannot offer valid counter argument) was the genuine release article. I've mentioned before how people seem very quick to comment on or critique something that hasn't officially been released yet so potentially is not an actual release item. For all we know this minifig could have been mocked up from available pieces in the fectory before being smuggled out and the reason for the 'black' head is that whomever smuggled that piece did not know or did not have access to the the correct head. . . Just a suggestion.

Deskp: I think you have to remember Lego is a kids Toy, targeted towards kids. What you've said in terms of accuracy is true but I'm pretty sure kids aren't going to be that fussed if there is a line too many, as long as the figure resembles its on screen counterpart (which it does very well) then I'm sure kids will be happy with that.

Bravo Tariq. Finally, someone else who recognizes that TLG has many more millions of customers who, if they can keep the minifigs out of their mouth (or their dogs mouth) long enough, are still unlikely to appreciate the subtleties of screen accurate design less than whether it will sink in the fish tank/fit inside Dad's prize scale Bugatti model/melt in the microwave/look better with policeman legs and a fireman hat. . .

Hands up all those who think TLG will fire someone if enough of you complain on this forum about poor helmet design? Ever considered that TLG wanted the images removed precisely because they were a bad representation of the 'finished' product? Though it is more likely that they were removed because it was an accurate model (apart from the head) which, if they haven't seen Phasma without a helmet, they may still not know which 'face' will best suit. . . Also, consider that Boba Fett never took his helmet off in the OT, so until Jeremy Bullock turned up at conventions to do signings, hundreds of people probably passed him in the street not knowing he had played such an iconic character.

So many reasons why the head could be black in that picture, and all people seem to want to do is express their disappointment. . .

[Kdapt-Preacher]

Pretty much everything that shows up here tends to change so dramatically from the first pictures we get to the final product that I can't understand why there's so much hate in this thread. Look at what happened just days ago with the Sith Infiltrator--it was absolutely despised and used as an example of what never to do and a set never to buy on the basis of the first photos, and then when we see the actual set everybody agrees that it's fine. This will be the same way.

[Venkefedo]

Pretty much everything that shows up here tends to change so dramatically from the first pictures we get to the final product that I can't understand why there's so much hate in this thread. Look at what happened just days ago with the Sith Infiltrator--it was absolutely despised and used as an example of what never to do and a set never to buy on the basis of the first photos, and then when we see the actual set everybody agrees that it's fine. This will be the same way.

...most likely true. Also, off-topic, I'm reading "Ringworld" for the first time, and just today at lunch got to the point where Speaker mentions the Kdapt-Preacher heresy.

[Clone 01354 Productions]

--it was absolutely despised and used as an example of what never to do and a set never to buy on the basis of the first photos, and then when we see the actual set everybody agrees that it's fine.

.....I don't think it's fine. In fact, the set didn't change much from prelim to final--it's still a blocky mess covered in too many slopes.

[Nokturn]

.....I don't think it's fine. In fact, the set didn't change much from prelim to final--it's still a blocky mess covered in too many slopes.

I agree. I really liked the direction they were going with the 2011 version, honestly. The new one is a giant step back; it's similar to the 2007 version.

[Raskolnikov]

Regardless of whether "everyone" thinks the new Sith Infiltrator is "fine," it's factually true that there was a very negative initial reaction when the set was leaked. When final images came out, there was a much more positive reaction (from a lot of people, anyway, if not you personally).

In general, I think we can agree that things can change from between preliminary leaks and final products, so it's best to be cautiously critical or cautiously optimistic. Comments based on preliminary images that are overly negative, or that claim that there has been a general decline in Lego quality, etc., are jumping the gun at best.

[TheBrickHitHouse]

Regardless of whether "everyone" thinks the new Sith Infiltrator is "fine," it's factually true that there was a very negative initial reaction when the set was leaked. When final images came out, there was a much more positive reaction (from a lot of people, anyway, if not you personally).

In general, I think we can agree that things can change from between preliminary leaks and final products, so it's best to be cautiously critical or cautiously optimistic. Comments based on preliminary images that are overly negative, or that claim that there has been a general decline in Lego quality, etc., are jumping the gun at best.

People are sick of reissues, reissues of sets AFOLs don't like and reissues from a film AFOLs don't like.

We could get a few AOTC sets before there's the need to release a 5th (?) Sith Infiltrator

[IronFish]

People are sick of reissues, reissues of sets AFOLs don't like and reissues from a film AFOLs don't like.

We could get a few AOTC sets before there's the need to release a 5th (?) Sith Infiltrator

I think that we need some more Ep II sets not based the battle of Geonosis, like a new version of the airspeeder chase, or some set that includes a Lego Kaminoan minifig.

[lomis]

People are sick of reissues

Excluding 75094: Imperial Shuttle Tydirium, right?

Because that set is a lot more accessible than 10212: Imperial Shuttle and blows the other shuttles (7264-1: Imperial Inspection and 7166: Imperial Shuttle) out of the water!

To be honest - I don't mind reissues at all and if the new Sith Infiltrator sells well, I don't see the problem.

I won't be buying one, but it doesn't upset me at all.

[Vodnik]

I think that we need some more Ep II sets not based the battle of Geonosis, like a new version of the airspeeder chase, or some set that includes a Lego Kaminoan minifig.

They would have to use the Friends minidoll mold for it to make it look half decent

[Fire spray 31]

I don't mind reissues because it gives fans a chance to get a set they might of missed the first time around. Not to mention we get better designs (usually) and more mini figures! I do get annoyed when they seem to repeat some sets ALOT like the naboo fighter and sith infiltrator while other sets like Jango Fett's Slave 1 only is seen 1 time. It is especially annoying with the Naboo fighter because that thing has barely changed.

[lowlead]

^^Agreed.

I would very much like to sit in on a meeting in Billund when they're deciding on such moves as reissues. I have yet to extract a pattern for their choices - beyond the obvious 'cuz it's been a while.

[NNOPMOC]

[sorry to remain off topic but there doesn't appear to be any "news" lately . . .]

. . . It never ceases to amaze me how some commentators on this forum seem to think that their opinion, being only one in the many MILLIONS of collectors of Lego WORLDWIDE, is of any interest or consequence to TLG. If they make a set and it sells well in a short space of time then clearly there is a market for that set. No company is going to say "Well, they didn't seem to like that one. . . Lets have another crack at it and see if we can sell a few dozen more. Oh, BTW, I got a DVD out at the weekend and saw what they call the OT? Gosh, isn't it dated compared to the PT. Goodness knows I wasn't even alive when the OT came out but they do seem to make a fuss about it on the Forum saying PT is despised and OT is adored. . ."

Well, here are some fun facts. In each trilogy, the first film of the trilogy (A New Hope and Phantom Menace) grossed the highest of the three films for domestic (US) and worldwide markets, with the second film doing the least well, and the third film still some way behind the first. Domestic (US) opening weekends for the PT films were $64M, $80M and $108M respectively . . . yeah, they were all obviously failures. Star Wars A New Hope is nearly 40 years old, a true classic, and a defining moment of cinema without a shadow of a doubt. I still get hairs standing up on my arms and neck when I hear the 20th Century Fox theme and a little bit of wee escapes when I first see that beautiful Star Destroyer rumbling across the screen . . . but in all that time, after every anniversary and re-release to the cinemas, it still hasn't cracked the $1Billion threshold (unless you adjust for inflation). Phantom Menace did that in the first two years, I believe.

So, when people 'bang on' about how unpopular the PT is and why are TLG still trotting out those hated sets . . . consider for a moment that you are but a handful of (highly vocal, to be sure) people who share this view, and no company, however successful, is going to waste money and resources on a product that is doomed not to sell.

And please don't ever speak on behalf of "AFOLs" . . . "People are 'I am' sick of reissues, reissues of sets AFOLs 'I' don't like and reissues from a film AFOLs 'I' don't like...", because we like a great many things that you, as individuals, do not.

[Happy for a moderator to remove this now that I've had my rant. ]

[Flieger]

I would very much like to sit in on a meeting in Billund when they're deciding on such moves as reissues. I have yet to extract a pattern for their choices - beyond the obvious 'cuz it's been a while.

What other argument would you need? If a set sold well in the target group of 10-14 year olds in 2011, it probably will sell in that target group (which did not get the set back then) in 2015 too.

Of course I would like to see some fresh ideas, but I see the logic of reissues. And it is not just about kids. A lot of afols do not have decades of Lego collecting experience.

People are sick of reissues, reissues of sets AFOLs don't like and reissues from a film AFOLs don't like.

That seems to be the true problem here. The AT-AT gets reissued every four years, just like the Naboo Starfighter, yet people don't hate on it as much.

I don't think that is fair.

PS: I am an afol, I was adult when the PT was released, I like the OT better as films - but I prefer the PT Lego.

Edited June 23, 2015 by Flieger

[IronFish]

PT movie may not be as good as the OT but it did have some cool ships that make/would make cool sets

[StarWars8Spoiler]

Concerning the picture of BB-8 and the disassembled Rey's Speeder, I have a question. Is the dark-bley 2x4 plate with clips a new piece?

[Venkefedo]

Concerning the picture of BB-8 and the disassembled Rey's Speeder, I have a question. Is the dark-bley 2x4 plate with clips a new piece?

It's most likely this piece... seems like more rows of studs beneath the pieces overlapping it. And it's available in dark-bley already.

[Fulcrumfan91]

People are sick of reissues, reissues of sets AFOLs don't like and reissues from a film AFOLs don't like.

We could get a few AOTC sets before there's the need to release a 5th (?) Sith Infiltrator

Again...reissues happen because Lego's target audience is children, not AFOLs. Case and point: LOTR.

[sorry to remain off topic but there doesn't appear to be any "news" lately . . .]

. . . It never ceases to amaze me how some commentators on this forum seem to think that their opinion, being only one in the many MILLIONS of collectors of Lego WORLDWIDE, is of any interest or consequence to TLG. If they make a set and it sells well in a short space of time then clearly there is a market for that set. No company is going to say "Well, they didn't seem to like that one. . . Lets have another crack at it and see if we can sell a few dozen more. Oh, BTW, I got a DVD out at the weekend and saw what they call the OT? Gosh, isn't it dated compared to the PT. Goodness knows I wasn't even alive when the OT came out but they do seem to make a fuss about it on the Forum saying PT is despised and OT is adored. . ."

Well, here are some fun facts. In each trilogy, the first film of the trilogy (A New Hope and Phantom Menace) grossed the highest of the three films for domestic (US) and worldwide markets, with the second film doing the least well, and the third film still some way behind the first. Domestic (US) opening weekends for the PT films were $64M, $80M and $108M respectively . . . yeah, they were all obviously failures. Star Wars A New Hope is nearly 40 years old, a true classic, and a defining moment of cinema without a shadow of a doubt. I still get hairs standing up on my arms and neck when I hear the 20th Century Fox theme and a little bit of wee escapes when I first see that beautiful Star Destroyer rumbling across the screen . . . but in all that time, after every anniversary and re-release to the cinemas, it still hasn't cracked the $1Billion threshold (unless you adjust for inflation). Phantom Menace did that in the first two years, I believe.

So, when people 'bang on' about how unpopular the PT is and why are TLG still trotting out those hated sets . . . consider for a moment that you are but a handful of (highly vocal, to be sure) people who share this view, and no company, however successful, is going to waste money and resources on a product that is doomed not to sell.

And please don't ever speak on behalf of "AFOLs" . . . "People are 'I am' sick of reissues, reissues of sets AFOLs 'I' don't like and reissues from a film AFOLs 'I' don't like...", because we like a great many things that you, as individuals, do not.

[Happy for a moderator to remove this now that I've had my rant. ]

Extremely well said. Thank you.