sdotcarter Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) Hey guys, A long time lurker here, and had to register because I cant quite wrap my head around something. Im looking to reproduce my jeep wrangler minus the 5 speed transmission. I have the solid axles built, but im looking for a transfer case. 2 hi, a faster speed just by rear wheels along with a driving ring selector for a 4 low. ( 4wd crawling ratio ) My wrangler is equipped with a np231 t-case http://www.thejeep.c...part4/H12-4.gif Is something like this replicable with lego? I try and build first in my head but this particular thought i cant figure out but maybe its simple. Anyways, thanks for having me, and good building. Edit: Power through 1 xl or two l's if that matters Edited June 4, 2014 by sdotcarter Quote
Rockbrick Posted June 4, 2014 Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) use something like this in the centre drive shaft but with one side 'locked' all the time (for the rear wheels) then you can use a selector to also engage the front axle or not then using the larger ring or smaller ring you can achieve low or high ratio - but would require another selector I can't see how to do that with just one selector at the moment Edited June 4, 2014 by Rockbrick Quote
Bzroom Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 That's really awesome. I wish i had room for this in my 4x4 moc Quote
aeh5040 Posted June 5, 2014 Posted June 5, 2014 That's really awesome. I wish i had room for this in my 4x4 moc Well, of course it could be made more compact in various ways... Quote
sdotcarter Posted June 6, 2014 Author Posted June 6, 2014 aeh5040, That is pretty much a marvelous solution, but I spot 1:1 ratios for both 2hi and 4 low. Since your more talented then me can a solution be made from this? Or would a two speed gear box be needed? Quote
Bzroom Posted June 6, 2014 Posted June 6, 2014 When you stall one side of the differential, through the planetary gears, the other side is driven with twice the speed. Quote
aeh5040 Posted June 6, 2014 Posted June 6, 2014 aeh5040, That is pretty much a marvelous solution, but I spot 1:1 ratios for both 2hi and 4 low. Since your more talented then me can a solution be made from this? Or would a two speed gear box be needed? Nope. "Hi" is a 2:1 ratio (geared up), "Lo" is 1:1, as Bzroom says. Just try it :) Differentials can be tricky ... Quote
Hrafn Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 I just realized one way to make aeh5040's design more compact while also adding the ability to lock the differential while in 4x4 mode. The differential case should be driven. When the driving ring is to the left, it's 2WD high mode; in the center, 4WD low with an open diff; and to the right, 4WD with a locked diff. Quote
Technic Builder Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 The above example is very compact, but when in 2WD high mode wouldn't the front axle be locked? In other words, the front wheels still roll on the ground, they still turn the front diff which in turn turns that axle which would be not able to move due to the driving ring bing slid to the left. Quote
Hrafn Posted June 7, 2014 Posted June 7, 2014 The above example is very compact, but when in 2WD high mode wouldn't the front axle be locked? In other words, the front wheels still roll on the ground, they still turn the front diff which in turn turns that axle which would be not able to move due to the driving ring bing slid to the left. Yeah, I realized that right after posting it. There are ways of dealing with that issue (ratchet clutch, second driving ring disengaging the front prop shaft, etc.) but then the design is no longer more compact than the original. Quote
sdotcarter Posted June 8, 2014 Author Posted June 8, 2014 Appreciating all the comments and help guys. With summer here my fishing vessel gets top priority but I plan on building the frame + axles within the next week. Id like to do a "super car" but I doubt i have the skills to do it. Thanks again guys. Quote
Thobricks Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Hello, I would Need a Transfer case with three positions:2WD,4WD, 4WD Low. Better syncronized, linear should be no Problem. any idea? Thank you Thanks Quote
Blakbird Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 I would Need a Transfer case with three positions:2WD,4WD, 4WD Low. Better syncronized, linear should be no Problem. any idea? Sheepo's Land Rover has exactly that system. You might want to check that out as a starting point. Quote
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