Licensed Forum Suggestions

[mulletwing]

Superhero forum with a DC and Marvel split discussion.

[Lord Vladivus]

I agree that it would kill the Licensed a Forum if you split off SH. I wouldn't really want to split the forums into Marvel and DC, but when I have to wade through 5 or 6 pages discussing the merits of a New 52 Nightwing vs a blue one, and the likelihood of a Green Lantern fig, and how people want the most obscure one, it makes me think that perhaps we should- I struggle to find any Marvel news or even talk nowadays. It's all DC talk- which is fine (I prefer Marvel, but I still like DC), it just seems to me that there are a lot of AFOLs that are DC fans, and less Marvel ones. I must admit, I tend not to post in rumour topics, but I do like to find out things, so I frequently peruse them.

[Spider-Man]

Now might not be the best time to split superheroes off from the rest of the licensed properties because there is so little left to talk about without it. However, with the way TLG is going I imagine in the next couple years we will be getting a lot more licensed properties and maybe at that point there could possibly be a split into different forums.

[korpen4444]

I agree that it would kill the Licensed a Forum if you split off SH. I wouldn't really want to split the forums into Marvel and DC, but when I have to wade through 5 or 6 pages discussing the merits of a New 52 Nightwing vs a blue one, and the likelihood of a Green Lantern fig, and how people want the most obscure one, it makes me think that perhaps we should- I struggle to find any Marvel news or even talk nowadays. It's all DC talk- which is fine (I prefer Marvel, but I still like DC), it just seems to me that there are a lot of AFOLs that are DC fans, and less Marvel ones. I must admit, I tend not to post in rumour topics, but I do like to find out things, so I frequently peruse them.

Now you know how we feel when all you guys talk about is "when are we getting an exclusive!? X-Mansion! We want more Heroes! Lego doesn't give MARVEL enough love!"

But yeah, I think separating Super Heroes from Licensed would kill a very active forum. Though if it's going to be a wintergreen theme, it might need its own forum soon.

But don't split into DC and MARVEL. Hell, I don't even know why it's Hobbit and LOTR. They're technically the same .

Besides, like I said, it confuses those who like both.

[Sam892]

I agree that it would kill the Licensed a Forum if you split off SH. I wouldn't really want to split the forums into Marvel and DC, but when I have to wade through 5 or 6 pages discussing the merits of a New 52 Nightwing vs a blue one, and the likelihood of a Green Lantern fig, and how people want the most obscure one, it makes me think that perhaps we should- I struggle to find any Marvel news or even talk nowadays. It's all DC talk- which is fine (I prefer Marvel, but I still like DC), it just seems to me that there are a lot of AFOLs that are DC fans, and less Marvel ones. I must admit, I tend not to post in rumour topics, but I do like to find out things, so I frequently peruse them.

A lot of the problems come from posting in the wrong forum. So many members in the Superheroes discussion, post wish lists or stuff that doesn't have any relevance. As an example I'm fed up of talking about why LEGO should make sets based around Young Justice or B:TAS or Amazing Spider-man 2 or what ever. Posts like how great would it be if LEGO made a Winter solider sets, should go in the future Superheroes topic.

One of the biggest problems at least for me is when someone posts in a forum something along the lines of ' haven't been on for a while, is there any news? I can't be bothered to look through the last 8 pages'. Mainly because it kills the existing discussion and then the next 10 comments are people essentially saying 'nothing new'.

Like before we got this topic, a whole page of posts were about suggestions for a new banner and splitting the forum. Which while I have no problem discussing don't belong in Superheroes topic. That's a whole page maybe two of comments that are really frustrating, especially when we are in toy fair season.

Also complaining about the Brickshow. I know they suck and are unprofessional, but do we really need to hear about it everytime someone posts one of there reviews? That's another 5-6 posts.

Lastly if we cut all the Animated show vs animated show, or the why does 'insert superhero' need a 'insert vehicle' when he can fly/web swing/ teleport/ whatever debates it would free a lot of room.

If we could cut out all the non essential posts, I know the Mods do step in so really it's down on us. But I think everyone would be suprised at how much easier it would be to read topics.

Edited February 12, 2014 by Sam892

[mulletwing]

I agree that it would kill the Licensed a Forum if you split off SH. I wouldn't really want to split the forums into Marvel and DC, but when I have to wade through 5 or 6 pages discussing the merits of a New 52 Nightwing vs a blue one, and the likelihood of a Green Lantern fig, and how people want the most obscure one, it makes me think that perhaps we should- I struggle to find any Marvel news or even talk nowadays. It's all DC talk- which is fine (I prefer Marvel, but I still like DC), it just seems to me that there are a lot of AFOLs that are DC fans, and less Marvel ones. I must admit, I tend not to post in rumour topics, but I do like to find out things, so I frequently peruse them.

I like Marvel's movie universe, but they keep making sets based on kids shows which don't have as much adult appeal, IMO, as the 90's classic animated series (X-Men & Batman) did. That could be why we see more AFOL for DC than Marvel.

Edited February 12, 2014 by mulletwing

[Sam892]

I like Marvel's movie universe, but they keep making sets based on kids shows which don't have as much adult appeal, IMO, as the 90's classic animated series (X-Men & Batman) did. That could be why we see more AFOL for DC than Marvel.

What your saying is because you don't like what the current wave of Marvel sets is based on, you want them put into a seperate topic? The current Marvel products (2013&2014) are pretty equal, 6 Movie sets ( Iron man and Guardians ) and 7 TV themed.

What happens in 2015 when we most likely get a ton of movie stuff? Can they then go back in with DC?

Very few people like every set in a wave or year, but you can't just pretend they don't exist.

[korpen4444]

I don't really like all of MARVEL's sets, but they aren't bad, really. DC however, I rarely have a problem. Either way, keeping the topics together would be best. But, if we separated DC and MARVEL, then we need to separate the Future Super Heroes sets topic in half.

Which I wouldn't really mind. But still, one must follow the other.

For the new banner: Have Batman(BTB), Spider-man, and Mikey together vs. Shredder, Joker, and Doc Ock(classic).

[Lord Vladivus]

I suppose a lot of it is wish listing- I am guilty of ignoring the Marvel wish listing, but (and I think this is a symptom of the lack of love DC has been shown this wave in terms of numbers of sets) there seems to be a lot more wish listing. I'm quite happy for wish listing to go on, but it definitely needs to go in the right place. That goes for Marvel and DC.

There is a thin line, one moment it's- "I wish they'd put in blue Nightwing instead of the Red one but the set's pretty cool" and the next you have a bunch of posts listing things they could put blue Nightwing in, games exclusives, etc. So, I can understand why it happens, if I posted I'd be guilty of it. I tend to just observe in the rumour topics though, so I suppose I represent a ever so slightly different viewpoint than most of you guys.

I do agree about the review (that goes for all of them) bashing, if you don't like it, move on, some people like the reviews, it's mostly a matter of opinion.

Would be nice with a new banner- I'd like one that incorporates the current themes. This is one of the places on eurobricks that can't get away with older banners, as licensed themes (with the exception of Star Wars, and now Super Heroes), aren't evergreen for the most part, so they disappear. I daresay a Super Heroes orientated banner could last for a long time- as that theme is now evergreen.

Just my two bricks,

[Hrafnblod]

A lot of the problems come from posting in the wrong forum. So many members in the Superheroes discussion, post wish lists or stuff that doesn't have any relevance. As an example I'm fed up of talking about why LEGO should make sets based around Young Justice or B:TAS or Amazing Spider-man 2 or what ever. Posts like how great would it be if LEGO made a Winter solider sets, should go in the future Superheroes topic.

One of the biggest problems at least for me is when someone posts in a forum something along the lines of ' haven't been on for a while, is there any news? I can't be bothered to look through the last 8 pages'. Mainly because it kills the existing discussion and then the next 10 comments are people essentially saying 'nothing new'.

Like before we got this topic, a whole page of posts were about suggestions for a new banner and splitting the forum. Which while I have no problem discussing don't belong in Superheroes topic. That's a whole page maybe two of comments that are really frustrating, especially when we are in toy fair season.

Also complaining about the Brickshow. I know they suck and are unprofessional, but do we really need to hear about it everytime someone posts one of there reviews? That's another 5-6 posts.

Lastly if we cut all the Animated show vs animated show, or the why does 'insert superhero' need a 'insert vehicle' when he can fly/web swing/ teleport/ whatever debates it would free a lot of room.

If we could cut out all the non essential posts, I know the Mods do step in so really it's down on us. But I think everyone would be suprised at how much easier it would be to read topics.

I get that it's annoying when the topic goes off-topic (though with possible retailer-exclusives still unannounced, if unlikely, a TWS set still falls under -possible- 2014 material), there's also the other side of the coin, which is stifling the organic flow of discussion. There's pretty long droughts of information, over the life of that thread, and it's not much fun to just kill every discussion thread that drifts off-topic for a few posts. The show vs. show debates, sure, since that doesn't actually have anything to do with Lego. Discussing the merits or possibilities (or lack thereof) of ASM2, TWS, etc. sets falls within the scope of the topic, if you ask me. People are just looking for something to talk about considering we've gotten very little tangible information from the toy fairs.

[Clone OPatra]

There's pretty long droughts of information, over the life of that thread, and it's not much fun to just kill every discussion thread that drifts off-topic for a few posts. … People are just looking for something to talk about considering we've gotten very little tangible information from the toy fairs.

Why does a discussion thread need to be active if there's nothing relevant to discuss? Sometimes, there really is nothing concerning new sets and rumors, and when that's true it'd be better to just let the discussion thread sit there idly until new information comes along. What happens instead is that people invent discussion, which ends up taking the topic nowhere. When there's nothing to talk about, people shouldn't be talking about anything IMO.

[mulletwing]

What your saying is because you don't like what the current wave of Marvel sets is based on, you want them put into a seperate topic? The current Marvel products (2013&2014) are pretty equal, 6 Movie sets ( Iron man and Guardians ) and 7 TV themed.

What happens in 2015 when we most likely get a ton of movie stuff? Can they then go back in with DC?

Very few people like every set in a wave or year, but you can't just pretend they don't exist.

No, I'd split it even if there had been Winter Soldier or Dark World sets. I just don't want to hear the bickering between Marvel only fans, "When do we get an exclusive." or DC only fans, "We got less sets." If you go over to the other publisher's thread to be a troll, well the Mod should boot you from the forum.

However you raise a good point. Hypothetically, I, as a greater DC than Marvel fan, could check the Marvel thread after the toy fairs to see what the finalised X-Men and GotG sets look like. Now if I'm into it, I keep going back to that thread to see reviews and discussion. Or if I'm not into it, than I steer clear of the Marvel thread until 2015 and go back to the DC thread to complain about the lack of an Alan Scott or a SImon Baz Green Lantern minifig.

I'd rather have that choice. Wouldn't you?

[pranas]

I'm indifferent to DC and Marvel being split into separate topics, but think it would be a mistake to make Super Heroes it's own forum. It's not yet big or old enough of a theme to have it's own forum yet (the reason Star Wars gets a pass for having it's own section). If Super Heroes gets more years under it's belt and starts putting out 30+ sets a year like Star Wars does, then it can be it's own thing. Also taking them out right now would make the licensed forum a near ghost town. Ninja Turtles, Simpsons, and Disney Princesses are all really great themes, but they don't spur a lot of lively discussion like Super Heroes does.

So until Super Heroes gets older and bigger and/or if LEGO starts buying more licenses and the licensed forum starts feeling overcrowded, keep Super Heroes where it is.

[Hrafnblod]

Why does a discussion thread need to be active if there's nothing relevant to discuss? Sometimes, there really is nothing concerning new sets and rumors, and when that's true it'd be better to just let the discussion thread sit there idly until new information comes along. What happens instead is that people invent discussion, which ends up taking the topic nowhere. When there's nothing to talk about, people shouldn't be talking about anything IMO.

That whole line of thinking makes me sad. Nobody should be talking in a discussion forum?

[Sam892]

No, I'd split it even if there had been Winter Soldier or Dark World sets. I just don't want to hear the bickering between Marvel only fans, "When do we get an exclusive." or DC only fans, "We got less sets." If you go over to the other publisher's thread to be a troll, well the Mod should boot you from the forum.

However you raise a good point. Hypothetically, I, as a greater DC than Marvel fan, could check the Marvel thread after the toy fairs to see what the finalised X-Men and GotG sets look like. Now if I'm into it, I keep going back to that thread to see reviews and discussion. Or if I'm not into it, than I steer clear of the Marvel thread until 2015 and go back to the DC thread to complain about the lack of an Alan Scott or a SImon Baz Green Lantern minifig.

I'd rather have that choice. Wouldn't you?

The problem with this is that it only solves half the problem, and creates new ones. So let's say DC fans stay in the DC topic and Marvel fans stay in the their topic. That's fine but then you have 3 groups of people ( people who like both companies equally, people who like both but favour DC and people who like both but favour Marvel) who are then inconvenienced. A large number of people are having to go into two threads to essentially post the same comments. Both these themes are incredibly similar. Both in price points, make up of sets, number of pieces/ figures in sets.

Just look at this year,

Batman vs penguin £11.99, 2 figures, around 100 pieces

Spider man vs Electro, £11.99, 2 figures around 100 pieces

Bat copter, £19.99, 3 figures around 200 pieces

Spidey armored van, £19.99, 3 figures around 200 pieces

The line up for both side is incredibly similar, and when you take into account how LEGO alternates between marvel and DC, the whole Marvel vs DC thing will always be there.

Sure it won't be a fan war but people will always here about the other companies sets. Someone will always say that set looks terrible, the vehicle looks crap I prefer the DC £20 set to Marvels £20 set. People will always be comparing Marvel sets to DC and DC to Marvel, the problem now is that DC fans will be pissed of that people are comparing Marvel sets in the DC thread and vise versa. Also now the mods need to moderate 2 bickering threads instead of 1.

I feel the majority of Superhero fans aren't loyal to a single brand and pick and choose from each company. So to split a topic to me at least only seems to serve the minority, and create more work for everyone else.

[eldiano]

It makes sense for Lego to split Super heroes by DC and Marvel on their main page and on their eshop, makes sense for this forum... enough said!!!

[GandalfofHoth]

I think it would be great if you separated the DC and Marvel thread, It's been drowned by Marvel, and although I like Marvel, I like DC a lot more and would like a forum devoted to each. I think everybody is in favor of a new banner. And if the Mods want the licensed forum to continue to succeed you MUST keep the superhero's in it, it pretty much rules this forum now that HP and others have left. If another strong theme came out, that would last a while maybe, but not now.

[CorneliusMurdock]

I thought I was clear that Superheroes will NOT get a separate forum at this time. The debate on that can stop.

Please be patient about the banner.

[Borex]

Yes, please do separate the superheroes thread into a marvel and a dc one.

I don't care for dc, and i don't care for the discussion my publisher is better than yours too.

I think if the threads are separated people will stay on topic more and it will be more about the actual rumours.

I also think there is too much speculation and 'wishing for' going on.

Often i have to struggle through pages and pages about people that want killer croc or people that need agent coulson or the winter soldier. Thats why we have the future superheroes thread.

And oh yeah i dont give a flying duck about the banner.

I thought I was clear that Superheroes will NOT get a separate forum at this time. The debate on that can stop.

You already decided that? Did everyone already give his/her reaction on this topic? Why so hasty?

Edited February 12, 2014 by Borex

[Hrafnblod]

You already decided that? Did everyone already give his/her reaction on this topic? Why so hasty?

Because it's not something the staff are willing to do right now, irrespective of people's reactions, is what I gather. It's just as well, it's a terrible idea that would kill the Licensed forum, as has been pointed out.

[Super Goblin]

Why does a discussion thread need to be active if there's nothing relevant to discuss? Sometimes, there really is nothing concerning new sets and rumors, and when that's true it'd be better to just let the discussion thread sit there idly until new information comes along. What happens instead is that people invent discussion, which ends up taking the topic nowhere. When there's nothing to talk about, people shouldn't be talking about anything IMO.

This line of thinking is my main problem with this site. This is a discussion forum, discussion should be allowed to flow naturally. Instead it is micromanaged and feels artificial sometimes. In a real life discussion/conversation the topic changes, evolves and comes back to the original topic.

[korpen4444]

Yes, please do separate the superheroes thread into a marvel and a dc one.

I don't care for dc, and i don't care for the discussion my publisher is better than yours too.

I think if the threads are separated people will stay on topic more and it will be more about the actual rumours.

Fat chance . Separating just gives opportunity to trolls, from both sides.

This is a discussion forum, discussion should be allowed to flow naturally. Instead it is micromanaged and feels artificial sometimes. In a real life discussion/conversation the topic changes, evolves and comes back to the original topic.

I have to say, I agree with this a little. The "Stay on topic" vibe of this site can sometimes kill a very popular thread. It IS a discussion. So let people discuss.

[Blondie-Wan]

It's just as well, it's a terrible idea that would kill the Licensed forum, as has been pointed out.

How so?

[Sam892]

How so?

We've been over quite a bit, but basically, there isn't enough licence themes at the moment to sustain a Licenced forum. If you took away superheroes, the only ongoing themes you have are, TMNT, Disney Princesses and what looks like a one off, simpsons theme.

[Hrafnblod]

I have to say, I agree with this a little. The "Stay on topic" vibe of this site can sometimes kill a very popular thread. It IS a discussion. So let people discuss.

Agreed. So, so much. I'm all for mods stepping in when it starts to become actual flaming but it seems like it happens every time people discuss something else even if it's connected to the main topic.

We've been over quite a bit, but basically, there isn't enough licence themes at the moment to sustain a Licenced forum. If you took away superheroes, the only ongoing themes you have are, TMNT, Disney Princesses and what looks like a one off, simpsons theme.

Yup, and to elaborate, not a whole lot of discussion on this board actually pertains to any of the other licensed themes. So there isn't much else, anyway, and no one's talking about it very much. It isn't taking away from Superheroes discussion to keep it in the Licensed forum but it would kill Licensed discussion if we took away Superheroes. Which isn't going to happen, anyway.

Edited February 12, 2014 by Hrafnblod