Alfadas Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Hi all, I need help with MOCs. I recently made a MOC, and got the comment that it was to empty. I just had a 32x32 green plate, on wich I made my MOC. I put some green and brown cheese slopes on it, and some plants. What plants are good for MOCing? I just have these plants, but I am sure there are better plants than these. I also got the advice that I need difference in heights. What parts are best for it? I have a few green 2x6 flats, but there are way better parts for it, but what are they? Please help! Quote
Legonardo Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Ok. Very broad question. Lets see... you can work wanders with just that, but if your out to buy things, 5*6 leaf stems 3*4 leaf stems are an easy way to start, flower stems are also quite good. Variation is important, if you can get smaller plates and bigger pates for that matter do so, try keep your base from being flat really. Most of all Look at builders like mark of falworth, or derfel cadarns older builds to see what sor of things they do, when your confident doing that, try things that even they dont do Quote
narbilu Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Just carfully read the guide made by Derfel... He is one of our inspirations: Detailed guide to building a medieval village Quote
Alfadas Posted October 21, 2013 Author Posted October 21, 2013 Thanks both of you, especially that guide is really useful, thanks! But Legonardo, what do you mean with 5*6 and 4*3 leaf stems? These things? Quote
The_Cook Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Try thinking smaller, go for an 8x8 diorama rather than a 32x32. Remember that some of the people here have been collecting bricks for years and have real day jobs that they can use to subsidise their hobby/obsession. When you're starting out with just a few sets, then you have to tailor the size of your MOCs accordingly. For a given number of bricks you can achieve a much greater density of bricks in an 8x8 space than you could with the same set of bricks in a 32x32 space. I would also suggest considering to build in a style or to develop a style that works without needing such density of bricks. I appreciate that the historic forums are heavily populated with hugely intricate MOC designs utilising hundreds and thousands of bricks in styles typified by Derfel Cardan and Legonardo, but it doesn't have to be that way. My personal preference is to try and follow the TLG style of achieving what needs to be achieved with as few bricks as possible. Third thing. Practice, practice, practice. Then be critical with yourself and ask yourself how can I improve, then try it! The beauty of Lego bricks is that unlike say woodwork or metalwork if you're not happy with something that you've created you can pull it apart and reform it continuosly until you're happy with it. Quote
Alfadas Posted October 21, 2013 Author Posted October 21, 2013 Thanks! I thought of smaller dioramas, but for the AoM challenges you need quite a big base plate to include all thing that are required. But for free-builds, I can go smaller. 8x8 is for me way to small. 16x16 or 20x20 is better for me, so I can make a nice layout with quite a lot of figs. The technics Derfel Cardan uses are great to look at, but you need indeed truckloads of bricks for them. I do have a quite large collection, but I don't use that for MOCs, I only use spareparts and loose bricks. You can check my collection here. I have nice parts, and pretty much, but as said, I don't use them in MOCs. Maybe I should do that. Thanks again, I will think of this with future MOCs! Quote
mpoh98 Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Thanks both of you, especially that guide is really useful, thanks! But Legonardo, what do you mean with 5*6 and 4*3 leaf stems? These things? Yes, that is what he meant. Just follow these suggestions, especially Derfel's viiage guide, and you should be well off! Quote
Gideon Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I do have a quite large collection, but I don't use that for MOCs, I only use spareparts and loose bricks. You can check my collection here. I have nice parts, and pretty much, but as said, I don't use them in MOCs. Maybe I should do that. You should definitely do that, you can always rebuild your sets later with the added fun of building them again Lego bricks are supposed to be used if you ask me! (But not if you ask my wife, I will never get my hands on all those sweet pieces in the module houses or winter village sets she likes too much in the bookshelf...) Quote
Alfadas Posted October 24, 2013 Author Posted October 24, 2013 Yeah, now they are just standing on the attic. I am not going to take them apart for normal bricks, only for plants and rocks. Otherwise the shelves look so empty. Quote
Wardancer Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) I use these in green a lot for high grass: http://www.bricklink...tem.asp?P=64727 Edited October 24, 2013 by Wardancer Quote
Alfadas Posted October 24, 2013 Author Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) Nice. Do you put them in the 5*6 and 3*4 leaf pieces? That must look cool! Edited October 24, 2013 by jeroenaa Quote
Wardancer Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 In most cases, I use 2 of the the official lego grass (the one with three spikes to put flower petals on), and put a green 1x1 round brick on top, in which the abovmentioned spike is then inserted. Unfortunately, these spikes are not cheap. Quote
Gideon Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 In most cases, I use 2 of the the official lego grass (the one with three spikes to put flower petals on), and put a green 1x1 round brick on top, in which the abovmentioned spike is then inserted. Unfortunately, these spikes are not cheap. Thanks for the idea, got to get me a bunch of those green 64727 Quote
Alfadas Posted October 24, 2013 Author Posted October 24, 2013 Yeah, those grass pieces are very useful and looks great. I found a site, where you can buy 100 grass pieces in bright green for 10 euros, and 100 grass pieces in normal green for 7 euros. The link:http://www.brickshop.nl/lego-onderdelen/landschap/Pagina-1-90.html Dont know if it is useful for you guys, but I thought lets share it! Quote
Wardancer Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 By the way, you can see this if you click on the "Elf Druid and tree demon" link in my signature below. Quote
Gideon Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Yeah, those grass pieces are very useful and looks great. I found a site, where you can buy 100 grass pieces in bright green for 10 euros, and 100 grass pieces in normal green for 7 euros. The link:http://www.brickshop...agina-1-90.html Dont know if it is useful for you guys, but I thought lets share it! Sounds expensive compared to BL for "normal green", but for bright green it looks interesting! I was however referring to the high grass pieces. Quote
Alfadas Posted October 24, 2013 Author Posted October 24, 2013 I know that. I just thought it was nice, so I shared it. Quote
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